That's a pretty awesome organisation structure, even if the actual labels aren't right, it's a great way of seeing them. That's some awesome work.
It does seem to lean towards ranks or something rather than names/text doesn't it!
Xenobiology study of Thargoid Ship Logograms - Compendium
That's a pretty awesome organisation structure, even if the actual labels aren't right, it's a great way of seeing them. That's some awesome work.
It does seem to lean towards ranks or something rather than names/text doesn't it!
As an addendum to this, just noticed the negative space in LMC might fit the logo.
BTW one reason I'm kinda interested in this is that there's ideas about how the Thargoids aren't from our galaxy/space at all - though that's ambiguous and afaik has never really been confirmed one way or the other. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Thargoids
I had a similar thought. Why would two or three Thargoids from different queens appear in the same instance? It's a neat way of organizing the markings, but I'm not sure if I'd interpret the inner markings as belonging to a particular queen.
I'm calling it now then. 1E and 2F don't exist.
I'll submit a new chart in the future.
Chart Updated to 2.5 following CMDR Nicou's work. They have done extensive work in finding panel images and 1E and 2F just don't exist. They must be what I had suspected. 1Bs and 2As.
This should be the final chart.
Much thanks to Nicou for creating a great chart:
This should be the final chart.
Much thanks to Nicou for creating a great chart:
Could be. In FFE lore there actually are Thargoid translators invented by the Thargoids specifically for talking to us. Again, from FFE lore they tried to make peace with us several times but for (reasons) humanity ignored that and/or didn't realise what was happening and the war started.
Given that FFE isn't strictly ED lore, but there's been a significant amount of general crossover, it's likely that the Thargoids have been trying to communicate with us in several different ways already.
A few pages back I posted an analysis of the sounds Thargoids make in a peaceful encounter (see link below). The spectrograms don't show any obvious encoded information. In one of the livestream videos they showed a dude playing a saxophone, which is what I think the Thargoid sounds are based on.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...s-Compendium?p=5991476&viewfull=1#post5991476
Maybe we need to sacrifice Kenny G to them?!
No lore info. There's very little on Thargoids at all, even if you take the extensive information available in FFE as fact very little of it relates to the physical creatures. Also it seems a likely assumption that they've RE-engineered themselves to some degree since then.
I personally think all the ships were seeing are "newly born" for want of a better word.
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LOL! Maybe that's what they've been looking for all along...the man who started it all. If they've been scooping up slaves and master chefs, I'm sure they'll take Kenny G.
I've updated the lexigram chart to:
info here:
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info here:
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Its a strange coincidence that there are only three types of secondary rings, but multiple tertiary ones. Its very similar to how we cataloged the guardian ruins. There were alpha, Beta, and Gamma types and each one of those had various configurations. Not going to say this makes Thargoids related to guardians, just that its strange.
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To make this weirder, there are 19 tertiary symbols. Unless I miscounted. I went off this chart
Guardian site types Beta and Gamma have 19 different logged configurations, alpha has 17. Adding this because the numbers are extremely similar on two levels now.
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To make this weirder, there are 19 tertiary symbols. Unless I miscounted. I went off this chart
Guardian site types Beta and Gamma have 19 different logged configurations, alpha has 17. Adding this because the numbers are extremely similar on two levels now.
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Not the first time this has been noticed, but if that's the fit, makes more sense that they are from our galaxy, or another on the opposite side of the LMC. It only looks like that from two sides outside of it. Not inside. Since it looks like that from our galaxy, the symbol might denote Thargoids that are based in this particular galaxy. There's a good chance they are an intergalactic species that use really obvious identifiers to organize which of their units are based in which galaxy. So the barnacles and ships assigned to the Milky way bear a mark of the LMC because it looks very much the same in all parts of our galaxy and would not be there in any other galaxy. In short, that inner symbol could be their character for Milky Way
First of all: congrats to that amazing work @ all !
I just had following idea when watching the rows of pictograms: what if we or someone (I’d not know how to do this) would make an animated GIF of each column of signs ? For me it looks like a snap-shot of a what-so-ever sign/mark that seems to evolve in a certain way to a certain kind of XYZ (<---- insert whatever-you-want here) . However, for me it looks like the final stage seems to include the fully closed outer ring, maybe it indicates the evolutionary stage of a single Thargoid ? From that, probably if that would fit, one could conclude the behaviour of a single Thargoid and so maybe easier foresee it's or his/her reactions:
a) childhood: naive, nosy but also anxious behaviour
b) teenage: very nosy but also effervesce (is that the correct word ?) and therefore maybe highly agressive
c) adult: relatively calm, eager for knowledge but in a more scientific way, only aggressive when highly provoked
I just had following idea when watching the rows of pictograms: what if we or someone (I’d not know how to do this) would make an animated GIF of each column of signs ? For me it looks like a snap-shot of a what-so-ever sign/mark that seems to evolve in a certain way to a certain kind of XYZ (<---- insert whatever-you-want here) . However, for me it looks like the final stage seems to include the fully closed outer ring, maybe it indicates the evolutionary stage of a single Thargoid ? From that, probably if that would fit, one could conclude the behaviour of a single Thargoid and so maybe easier foresee it's or his/her reactions:
a) childhood: naive, nosy but also anxious behaviour
b) teenage: very nosy but also effervesce (is that the correct word ?) and therefore maybe highly agressive
c) adult: relatively calm, eager for knowledge but in a more scientific way, only aggressive when highly provoked
Even missing some of the confirmed 'grams... this arrangement makes much more sense than some of the others being used here (in this thread).
I would argue that naming the second ring (Queen 1-3) is based on supposition that has no evidence to support it... in fact the opposite seems more true due to the mix of second ring symbols found during multi-thargoid encounters.
There is that "Progression" theme once again, though
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I would except this photographic evidence without the "official" scanned version as good enough to work with... not just a place holder. It would be nice to have a scan, but hardly required with good photo's...
The paint doesn't seem to "scratch off" on a 'goid... and we would have no way to prove it anyway... keeping it simple then is the way to go unless evidence pops up to show otherwise.
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