No Single Player offline Mode then?

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"A fully offline experience would be unacceptably limited and static compared to the dynamic, ever unfolding experience we are delivering."

Does imply a lack of offline play, to put it mildly.

But then again, in this day and age... is it really that important?

Well yeah, its important to me!

Im moving house to a temporary location in January, not able to move into the new build until August, and probably not able to get good quality broadband for a few months after that. So yeah, offline mode is pretty damned important to me, as I wont be able to play at all without it, for the best part of a year.
 
I "actively waited" twenty years for news about Elite. Got them and got ecstatic.
Now this, huge downer to end the day - I won't be able to play my most awaited game ever.

All due to "MP support" which made me skeptical from the very beginning, since many "SP specific" features obviously had to go.
Some of which I could live with. And I was even prepared to wait for the planetary landing expansion and modding support.
But for me, "not connected SP gaming" was absolutely critical.

I am connected, although quality varies. Might be enough, don't know.
But I pay to OWN, not RENT (hence no Steam for me either, where they can suddenly pull your plug).

My ideas for how to solve:
* Downloadable server software, excluding critical anti cheat systems. Even if too straining for a single system, many could still setup a second machine for this.
* Downloadable "galaxy status", maybe by the server software.
* "Secrets" to be based on delayed injections for home servers.

The two only valid excuses I've seen so far is added complexity and cost of maintaining this approach, and being forced to prevent cheating even if "stat files" are now exposed to modification attempts (maybe there is a way around this, but I'm too upset to really think straight right now).

No point for me lurking around these forums anymore, at least until I'm actually given some good news.
 
Why didn't they just say so then?

Because then the pitchforks would be out all over again if it didn't happen.

The reaction to this announcement is exactly why developers don't make detailed statements about stuff, as far as possible. If they say nothing then the users can only really talk about their disappointment. If they say something that can be construed as a promise then suddenly it's all about lost trust and refunds.

The lesson FD will be taking from this thread is to never promise anything.
 
They really didn't need a thread in the DDF, because everyone knew there was going to be offline with a static galaxy and multiplayer with a dynamic one. What's to discuss? :)

I meant for FD to discuss their decision to remove it. Seems there would have been a lot to discuss.
 
This wouldn't be an issue, if they would have said there wasn't going to be offline mode, when they gave up on it. This didn't happen over night, as I said before, LAST WEEK the website store page was still advertising OFFLINE MODE. They have known for some time, and for them to wait until this close to release to announce this, is just short of fraud, at minimum very bad business practice. This is something I would expect from Bobby Kotick.
 
Frontier tricked everyone. You all should be furious about it. During the Kickstarter they PROMISED offline gameplay. Instead now when they have all your money and its one month from release, they said NOPE. Instead we are all getting ALWAYS ONLINE DRM. That's right, the same crap that made SimCity fail, the same thing that made Diablo III fail, the same thing that made HOMM VI fail. Frontier are straight up bait and switch specialists. How can ANYONE condone that?
Diablo3 would have failed (not commercially) with or without that DRM. Admittedly I played it again recently, seems a bit better.
 
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Let's be fair here, a week ago at most FD were advertising the offline mode as a feature in their online store, never mind original KS quotes.

Again some folks are insinuating this was somehow being hidden without evidence. And no it's not fair.
 
dude just stop assuming, there are people (like myself) that bought the game 1 month ago and it was clearly stated that offline mode was a thing.
and i don't even understand why i have to justify myself from people like you.

what's your post relevance to the thread other than bashing other people?
"love people to moan" really mature

So you bought into the game one month ago and now you have all the insights to Frontier's decisions and by default all the rights to complain? And somehow everyone else is making assumptions? Man you really need to get real, you're insulting the kickstart backers and everyone else from way before a month ago with that nonsense. Their reasons for complaint are far more valid than yours will ever be.

Do yourself and everyone a favor and get your money back.
 
This is an important matter to me personally, due to the reasons given above. I simply cannot play this game at all without the offline mode I always assumed (with good basis) was included.

As someone who has paid up over £250 for the game to come to fruition I really hope for FD to get back on track with this.
 
so if i may add a question, what now?
i mean, where are the devs when in 3 hours there is already a thread with 60 pages full of rants?
can we have some clarification on at least why they decided to pull this off?

So you bought into the game one month ago and now you have all the insights to Frontier's decisions and by default all the rights to complain? And somehow everyone else is making assumptions? Man you really need to get real, you're insulting the kickstart backers and everyone else from way before a month ago with that nonsense. Their reasons for complaint are far more valid than yours will ever be.

Do yourself and everyone a favor and get your money back.

won't even respond to this garbage
 
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So you bought into the game one month ago and now you have all the insights to Frontier's decisions and by default all the rights to complain? And somehow everyone else is making assumptions? Man you really need to get real, you're insulting the kickstart backers and everyone else from way before a month ago with that nonsense. Their reasons for complaint are far more valid than yours will ever be.

Do yourself and everyone a favor and get your money back.

Well, to be fair, you might be the one making an assumption there that he hasn't followed every word and only just felt the level of trust he required to put his hat in the ring. Now the ring is on flames and his trust appears to have been misplaced, giving him rights to make comment. No?
 
Its ironic that the majority of the people coming and having a pop in this thread are people who will quite happily play online, and have a valid working internet connection all the time. Of course this is just another example of people jumping on something that everyone is jumping on as well (see E3 last year, and Microsoft's online policy).

That's an impressive..umm..err..statistic? What would you call it, this evidence, this collation of data that you have collected to support your statement "majority of the people coming and having a pop in this thread are people who will quite happily play online, and have a valid working internet connection all the time."?

Of course this is just another example of people jumping on something that everyone is jumping on as well (see E3 last year, and Microsoft's online policy).

Sweeping generalisation much? Have you bothered to actually read through this whole thread?
- If not, why not and how could you possibly have anything even remotely intelligible to add with a complete lack of context and information?
- If you have read through the entire thread then you are just plain wrong and doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing; oh the irony, oh the hypocrisy.

Whilst there are people out there who live in the sticks who have not so ideal internet connections, whats stopping them from playing Solo mode exactly> As long as the get authenticated, and get the server updates when needs that all that matters.

If only you had a clue. Let's use your example, someone who lives in the sticks with intermittent internet that can go down for hours at a time, what happens when they dock at a station? You do realise that every transaction you perform whilst docked requires communications with FD servers right? So what happens to the sticks internet user? Here I'll give you a hand, they're screwed, no more ED until their internet gets back on the line.

Look it's terribly simple to understand, you can now not play ED unless you have a decent and reliable internet connection and that means a connection that drops out for a few seconds maximum, not minutes, not hours and obviously not days.

Here's another scenario for you to consider, (but see, if you had have actually read any of this thread instead of just johnny-come-lately-jumping-on-the-troll-bandwagon, you would already known what I am about to tell you); the guys/gals that have internet connection only part of the time or none of the time? E.g. I have excellent internet access roughly 3 months a year and then I work and live in a remote location with no internet access whatsoever, what do I do? I'm guessing you'll have a witty response.

People love to moan ... and this is giving them plenty of ammo sadly ...

And here you are moaning about the moaners, well no, actually you are moaning about something you have no clue about or care about, because it doesn't affect you and the moaners aren't moaners at all; most of them have genuine grievances with this situation that your are trying to sweepingly dismiss with a wave of your magic wand. How about you take your patronising and uniformed attitude and move along?
 
omg this discussion is going to hard hitting my head: because of so much conceptual misunderstanding and such much really do not wanna to understand pointing
 
So you bought into the game one month ago and now you have all the insights to Frontier's decisions and by default all the rights to complain? And somehow everyone else is making assumptions? Man you really need to get real, you're insulting the kickstart backers and everyone else from way before a month ago with that nonsense. Their reasons for complaint are far more valid than yours will ever be.

Do yourself and everyone a favor and get your money back.

Of course he has the right to complain. He bought a product that was advertised as having 'offline play', and was probably very excited about the upcoming release. Now he is told that this feature is not available. If he's in a similar situation to me it means he won't be able to play a game he has (a) paid premium money for and (b) was emotionally invested in

And yet all morning people have been on here dismissing his concerns as "trivial" and criticising "moaning" . . .

Who cares whether he was a kick starter or not?
 
Release a cut down server to run on people's machines. Remove all the background simulation stuff and multiplayer shenanigans, and put a mock in place that would respond to server commands.

Maybe they should release a working multiplayer game first, then dedicate some resource to this later?
 
Thankfully you have an online connection so you can post such a nonsense post.

There will be people who CANNOT PLAY THE GAME at the time of release because of no offline mode. People who have probably paid a hell of a lot more money than you in making this game possible, who at the time of paying the money were informed there would be an offline mode.

Seriously, YOUR situation does not apply to everyone else - so stop with the inane gifs.
Thankfully this forum has an report and ignore feature, Ive made good use of them thus far.

Maybe they should release a working multiplayer game first, then dedicate some resource to this later?

Yeah, this thread would be smaller if this were to happen, but as of yet its no Offline mode at all.
 
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