yep, we lost both progression in our Rank and lost Rank. We just don't see it. Too depressing to redo a hundred hours of Exo play just to get back where I was. I'm starting to believe FDev doesn't understand what they did
Elite Dangerous Exobiology Rank Threshold Rebalance Information
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Same here, Elite I rank progress back to 0% and it will take some much time to redo nearly all the ranks in the new system, before I could a 1% increase in Elite I rank. I hoped that FDev would a least rebalance the time needed to rank (it's really too much in Exobio), but now it is the same than before with the burden of seeing no progress in ranking for years... The only improvement is to earn much more money... good for beginners, not for players more advanced in Exobiology that will be be depressed by seing no progress in ranking.
I look at the decision on taking no action to amend the CMDR 3 progress as an error. Ranked at Elite V what motivation will he /she have in ranking up to Elite V? It would be quite simple to look at the value of the income generated by CMDRs after Update 14 and give them the rank accordingly.
Perhaps I can assist you regarding your own progress. Head to INARA: Personal Logs/Statistics - bottom of the page on the right: Exobiology - Take the "Profit from Organic Data" total and deduct the "Profit from First Logged". I have used this method to track my Exobiology progress and it has been spot on.
Prior to Update 14, I was 98% progress to Elite, which means I now require 51,000,000 to achieve Elite Exobiology proper (although I have the title). That will remove/catch up the 0% on INARA and I can progress to Elite 1 with the correct % displayed.
You need to make more than 1bn (possibly WAY more than that) to get back to the Geneticist rank, then you need Some more Billions to get back to 98% to Elite.
Scratch that, i didnt follow your previous posts and i'm not having any numbers
Careful what you wish for.
To be fair jumping 3.5 ranks with half a rank of data is not what we want. However seems reawsonable to ask that any change to the ranking is effected on all actions after update 14 dropped. Kicking us backwards from where we were isn't cricket is it.Careful what you wish for.
I don't think it's intentional. Didn't Frontier explicitly say they wouldn't demote anybody?
They just didn't think this through. They adjusted the rank thresholds (by x15) and that's it. What they probably should have added as well is something like checking that the new rank is actually higher than the current rank before applying a change when the threshold is exceeded.
indeed, they should have applied the same multiplier to the current gains so people maintain the ranks and any intermediary progress they had before re-adjustments.
Or better would be if they could replace the credit-based rank system with an experience point based system, where every species gives a certain amount of XP based on their rarity. Frontier probably has the sampling history of all players, so they could calculate the current total XP for all players.
probably skewed by lots of Stratum Tectonicas
I understand that such an XP-based rank system would probably change the ranks of many players, but I think it would be fair. Those who have tried to find all species would probably get a bit higher rank, and those who have used the Spansh “Road to exobiology Elite” playthrough guide would get a lower rank. In my opinion, the value of Stratum Tectonicas has been skewed all the time. The values should have been based on rarity since the launch of EDO.
One solution would be throw credit based exobiology rank out of window. Instead implement number of handed in species instead with bonus for new ones. Like one point and additional 3 points if it first time discovery. Looking at number in codex stats these numbers are there so it should be doable.
I'd definitely like a different viewpoint on the values. Absolutely support the increase for first-finder, this should be such that rescanning lifeforms is only mildly profitable in comparison, and certainly not a way to achieve high ranking. I agree that rarity should be a major factor and yes I've often wondered what's so special about Stratum Tectonicas.
I would also like to offer my support to separating Exobiolgy rank from the credits paid by Vista.
Amongst the benefits of doing this it would allow FDev to adjust earning potential without impacting rank progression.
To go further I think exploration should also be separated in this way.
However in the long term I don’t think the differential between being the first to find something and finding another example should be to high, some progress should be possible while making your way out to where no player has gone before (and successfully returned to sell their data).
Amongst the benefits of doing this it would allow FDev to adjust earning potential without impacting rank progression.
To go further I think exploration should also be separated in this way.
However in the long term I don’t think the differential between being the first to find something and finding another example should be to high, some progress should be possible while making your way out to where no player has gone before (and successfully returned to sell their data).
You reached Elite on 1st Dec, not sure how much further you got, so lets assume 0% which is 440M. Assuming a 7x rank change you would need 455M to get Taxonomist and 880M for Ecologist. If you are already over 455M you won't see a demotion and then percentage progress until you hit 880M.
Elite would be 4.6B, so you'd need another 4.2B to grind out to get you back where you were before 14.01 dropped.
If, and this is the big if right now, they are calculating the pre and post upgrade 14 gains differently then your Elite rank won't have dropped to 0%. Mine has as I gained 3 ranks since upgrade 14 so that is fair enough. Knowing if your rank progress was zero'd would be really useful. My point here is that you gained 435M in old money, and just need 5M more to level (or 35M in new money). If you don't level to Elite after doing another 35M then we can safely say they didn't respect the values of old grind and everything got a demotion (be that 7x, 15x, 30x, whatever figure we finally figure out it is). If that is the case, then people who worked really hard pre-upgrade 14 have been royally done over.
Selling biosamples after Update 14 my raking increased to 52% Elite 1. (Have been AFK for the last week, so now I hope to find some samples and test the water.)
Another point mildly related - why on earth don't FDEV share the redemption values from Vista Genomics?
It's hardly at all believable that this isn't readily available in game at a VG shop, but instead we have to build up our own private list or refer to online guides to find out how much VG will pay for a Tussock Pennatis.
It's hardly at all believable that this isn't readily available in game at a VG shop, but instead we have to build up our own private list or refer to online guides to find out how much VG will pay for a Tussock Pennatis.
FDev: It would be nice to get 1) A list of the new $$/Rank requirement, 2) Is FDev planning on adjusting commander Exo $ Earned to the new Rank levels so we won't have lost the many rank levels that we have? Or are we stuck? and if so, seems I'm done with Exo, don't want to redo a 100 hours of game play just to get back to where I was at.