GPU Upgrade

darthmerlin03

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Hello CMDRs I recently built my first gaming pc. I am having an absolute blast using a quest 2 for vr. However I would like to get a much better GPU I would be willing to spend in the region of £600 give or take (probably in spring time). I would like to hear suggestions on what you all think would be a worthy upgrade.

My current specs

CPU: Ryzen 5 5600x
RAM: 16 gb DDR4
PSU: 650w Modular
MB: B550m DS3H
GPU: Radeon RX 580 8 GB


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darthmerlin03

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Thanks sounds good I plan to play mostly in VR is there any considerations I should make. I currently have a 4k 60 tv I plan to upgrade to a dedicated monitor at some pont but that will be long into the future as it means converting a room in my house.
 

Mrc_NorthEast

Mrc_NorthEast
With that budget I would look at the last gen from Nvidia or Amd and pick something in the 500-600 range. Amd 6700, 6750, 6800, 6800xt, or Nvidia 3060, 3060Ti, or 3070 with the current prices for last gen. Which by springtime hopefully are even lower.
 

Dmand

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ED and AMD GPU do not mix. So many problems. Not to mention AMD really sucks compared to Nvidia for Quest 2 VR. I made a massive mistake and i own the AMD 6900xt gpu and a quest 2 vr headset. I exclusively play ED in VR, Texture / shadow flickering everywhere, all kinds of driver problems. Now the the 4000 series from Nvidia has come out, the 30 series may come down in price.

I would not go with the 1660 ti for VR, just no powerful enough. I would get at least a 3070
 

Imo

Imo
darthmerlin03 said:
Hello CMDRs I recently built my first gaming pc. I am having an absolute blast using a quest 2 for vr. However I would like to get a much better GPU I would be willing to spend in the region of £600 give or take (probably in spring time). I would like to hear suggestions on what you all think would be a worthy upgrade.

My current specs

CPU: Ryzen 5 5600x
RAM: 16 gb DDR4
PSU: 650w Modular
MB: B550m DS3H
GPU: Radeon RX 580 8 GB


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maybe something between a radeon rx 6600 and a radeon rx 6700 xt would fit? :)
 

Cmr_Honkalot

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a couple of weeks ago I upgraded from a 580rx to a 6650xt which cost 270 squid from newegg. Much faster and a blast. I could of spent double for at most a 20 to 30 per cent increase infps but this will easily keep me happy for a couple of years.
 

Jack Winter

Jack Winter
Dmand said:
ED and AMD GPU do not mix. So many problems. Not to mention AMD really sucks compared to Nvidia for Quest 2 VR. I made a massive mistake and i own the AMD 6900xt gpu and a quest 2 vr headset. I exclusively play ED in VR, Texture / shadow flickering everywhere, all kinds of driver problems. Now the the 4000 series from Nvidia has come out, the 30 series may come down in price.

I would not go with the 1660 ti for VR, just no powerful enough. I would get at least a 3070
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I think I'd concur about the 1660Ti. I upgraded my CPU from an i7-2600k to an i9-12900k but kept my 1660Ti. EDO runs way better at 1080p ultra locked at 60 FPS, though I get some framerate loss in on foot CZ. Haven't had much luck with my Index for VR, so my plan is to update to a 4090 or so. Based on my experience I'd say that a 1660Ti is just enough for 1080p when not held back by the CPU, but will be lacking for higher resolutions and VR.
 

playerwon

playerwon
i use an rtx 2070 and find it lacking a little for the ground stuff in vr.
you should be able to afford the 3090 for that budget tho. thats the card id go for.
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
VR in elite is demanding.
At g2 reverb high resolutions (4k) your system will be taxed to extreme.
Only a 3090 or better will suffice in my opinion. For almost flawless 4k 90fps gameplay. Exceptions being orbiting and planetary assets. These locations are unoptimised and framerate plummets.
But combat is amazing!!
But as said this is top tier VR and not nessesary as a 1st experience.
Does look just drop dead gorgeous in the black...words do no justice.
4k 90fps VR gameplay. Full eye candy ingame settings too hehe.
 

Leg2ion

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darthmerlin03 said:
Yes the 30 series keeps popping up in my own research I need to do a bit more research into those amd cards.
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If it helps any I have a MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 SUPRIM X for sale. Not sure if there is a buy/sell forum site - but am on south coast of England. Happy to be PM'd if you are interested.
 
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DjVortex

DjVortex
Dragsham said:
VR in elite is demanding.
At g2 reverb high resolutions (4k) your system will be taxed to extreme.
Only a 3090 or better will suffice in my opinion. For almost flawless 4k 90fps gameplay. Exceptions being orbiting and planetary assets. These locations are unoptimised and framerate plummets.
But combat is amazing!!
But as said this is top tier VR and not nessesary as a 1st experience.
Does look just drop dead gorgeous in the black...words do no justice.
4k 90fps VR gameplay. Full eye candy ingame settings too hehe.
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Seems strange to be that taxing in VR, when it runs just fine on non-VR 4k.

I have an RTX 3080 and a 4k 120Hz g-sync display, and the game runs just fine at that resolution at that refresh rate. In space the card doesn't even get warm. On foot it's more taxing, but it can still run it fine. Strange that this would be different in VR.

(Although I suppose it is a bit different in the sense that it needs to render twice as many frames, even if each frame is half the resolution. Even if the pixel count of the final image is the same, having to render the scene twice, from two different camera positions, might be slightly more taxing because rendering pipeline something something.)
 

playerwon

playerwon
DjVortex said:
Seems strange to be that taxing in VR, when it runs just fine on non-VR 4k.

I have an RTX 3080 and a 4k 120Hz g-sync display, and the game runs just fine at that resolution at that refresh rate. In space the card doesn't even get warm. On foot it's more taxing, but it can still run it fine. Strange that this would be different in VR.

(Although I suppose it is a bit different in the sense that it needs to render twice as many frames, even if each frame is half the resolution. Even if the pixel count of the final image is the same, having to render the scene twice, from two different camera positions, might be slightly more taxing because rendering pipeline something something.)
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vr has to calculate two different viewpoints constantly, so even at lower resolution per screen the workload is nearly doubled by using a vr headset.
with a 3080 you can get away with g2 reverb, a very high resolution headset and likely ultra settings for almost everything as well.
but yeah, its not just that it has to render twice as many frames, its that it has to render two different points of view lol... very little information can be shared between the two processes, so pretty much the game is running twice on your machine.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
playerwon said:
vr has to calculate two different viewpoints constantly, so even at lower resolution per screen the workload is nearly doubled by using a vr headset.
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Only if it's rendering two 4k images for each frame. I don't think any VR headsets has two 4k displays. Even the highest-resolution ones have only a 4k resolution in total, split into the two eyes. In other words, even for VR the total amount of pixels being rendered is still the same as for non-VR 4k. It cannot possibly take double the time. Setting up the rendering pipeline to render from a different camera positions cannot possibly take as much as rendering the image itself.
 

CMDR M Kozak

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DjVortex said:
Only if it's rendering two 4k images for each frame. I don't think any VR headsets has two 4k displays. Even the highest-resolution ones have only a 4k resolution in total, split into the two eyes. In other words, even for VR the total amount of pixels being rendered is still the same as for non-VR 4k. It cannot possibly take double the time. Setting up the rendering pipeline to render from a different camera positions cannot possibly take as much as rendering the image itself.
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Its rendering an image for each eye. Try the closing one eye, and you will notice that each eye sees things from a slightly different angle.

So, its 2 screens it has to render. All within an 11ms frametime budget - 6 to 7 ms per eye.
 

ChasingSol

ChasingSol
This is true. I have an HP Reverb G2 and Elite in VR successfully brings an RTX 4090 to it's knees almost all the time. It's WAY more demanding than pancake 4K. I can run everything turned up all the way on a 4K monitor, but I definitely can't do that in VR.

Edit: Just to be clear, Elite in VR runs great on an RTX 4090, looks fantastic and runs smoothly at 90 FPS. But it's not cranked all the way up with the pretty stuff. It's up there, but not all the way, even with a 4090. For any VR game, the more GPU you can give it the better.
 
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