Spring dlc Speculation 2023

Most likely so. We have been talking about this several times and I know it isnt the only performance indicator, but look at the Grasslands DLC Steam reviews, it has like 33 of them. That is quite low as it has been out for almost a month now.
 
For anyone wondering H1 2023 is peroid where frontier released:
  • in case of PZ: conservation and twilight
  • in case of JWE2: dominion expansion and late cretaceous
Upcoming results will specifically refer to this period with possible outlook on future whats coming.

December packs like Grasslands and Malta Expansion count as H2 2023 releases.
 
From the trade paper, "However, sales performance during key price promotions in December 2022 fell below expectations, with some evidence of increased player price sensitivity".

While the report then states Planet Zoo was one of the most successful performances of 2022, does that former statement imply the Grasslands Pack underperformed?
Yes it would do. The key thing to note aswell is that more players seem to be only attracted to dlc packs on sales which is what the price sensitivity suggests. It's really only a portion of us that actually buy on release

The more dlc packs that come out the less attention they will receive from the average player, this is exactly what happens with games that release ever increasing amounts of smaller dlc packs over several years. Only a massive change in the current trend like introducing aviaries or aquariums will change the current decreasing popularity and frontier knows this
 
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Most likely so. We have been talking about this several times and I know it isnt the only performance indicator, but look at the Grasslands DLC Steam reviews, it has like 33 of them. That is quite low as it has been out for almost a month now.
Hmm, while that is true, hasn’t the launch trailer got like 220k views on Youtube? That’s SO much higher than most other dlc trailers.
 
Hmm, while that is true, hasn’t the launch trailer got like 220k views on Youtube? That’s SO much higher than most other dlc trailers.
I believe we should be looking at steams top sellers to see how popular certain packs are
  1. Planet zoo base game
  2. Grasslands
  3. Twilight
  4. Wetlands
  5. Aquatic
  6. Conservation
  7. Europe
  8. North America
  9. Australia
  10. South America
  11. Africa
  12. Southeast Asia
  13. Deluxe upgrade
  14. Arctic
It's evident that this week shows the most recent dlcs are selling well but maybe not as high as frontier hoped I guess. Likely sales are carrying over from the winter sale and newer dlcs so it's safe to say that wetlands and aquatic still are the most popular where newer dlcs are typically bought since they are new additions - these can be existing players stocking up the packs or new players getting drawn into fresh content
 
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A wishful thinking Ungulate Expansion:

20 ungulates, because hardly any new behavior and movement is needed to animate. Some of the following species are extremely similar to existing species in game, so would really require very little work to add in. Why ungulates? Because zoos have a ton of ungulates. Meanwhile, there are comparatively few ungulates in PZ compared to all the carnivores. After this pack I think we'd be set for our ungulates.

  1. Onager (first in game donkey)
  2. Grévy's zebra (second distinct zebra species)
  3. Black rhinoceros (completing the rhino triad)
  4. Collared peccary (representing peccaries)
  5. Red river hog (charismatic African pig)
  6. Eurasian wild hog (staple of Eurasian forests)
  7. Siberian musk deer (representing musk deer, which aren't actually deer)
  8. Wisent (largest European land animal)
  9. Giant eland (largest African antelope)
  10. Greater kudu (because people have been wanting a kudu for a long time)
  11. Nilgai (largest Asian antelope, sole representative of genus Boselaphus)
  12. Blackbuck (iconic Asian antelope)
  13. Dikdik (tiny antelope)
  14. Saiga (critically endangered Asian antelope with a trunk)
  15. Bontebok (representing tsessebes, hartebeests and related)
  16. Wapiti (NA old world deer)
  17. Pudu (represents new world deer, smallest deer)
  18. Takin (popular giant goat from the Himalaya)
  19. Muskox (very popular giant goat-antelope)
  20. Chiru (sole representative of genus Panthalops, looks like an antelope but is actually a goat-type animal)
And there it is.
Mostly super easy animals like another zebra, the wisent, wapiti, the pigs, the donkey, and most of the antelope. And a few animals that require a bit more effort, like the takin and muskox, giant eland, pudu, and dikdik.
 
A wishful thinking Ungulate Expansion:

20 ungulates, because hardly any new behavior and movement is needed to animate. Some of the following species are extremely similar to existing species in game, so would really require very little work to add in. Why ungulates? Because zoos have a ton of ungulates. Meanwhile, there are comparatively few ungulates in PZ compared to all the carnivores. After this pack I think we'd be set for our ungulates.

  1. Onager (first in game donkey)
  2. Grévy's zebra (second distinct zebra species)
  3. Black rhinoceros (completing the rhino triad)
  4. Collared peccary (representing peccaries)
  5. Red river hog (charismatic African pig)
  6. Eurasian wild hog (staple of Eurasian forests)
  7. Siberian musk deer (representing musk deer, which aren't actually deer)
  8. Wisent (largest European land animal)
  9. Giant eland (largest African antelope)
  10. Greater kudu (because people have been wanting a kudu for a long time)
  11. Nilgai (largest Asian antelope, sole representative of genus Boselaphus)
  12. Blackbuck (iconic Asian antelope)
  13. Dikdik (tiny antelope)
  14. Saiga (critically endangered Asian antelope with a trunk)
  15. Bontebok (representing tsessebes, hartebeests and related)
  16. Wapiti (NA old world deer)
  17. Pudu (represents new world deer, smallest deer)
  18. Takin (popular giant goat from the Himalaya)
  19. Muskox (very popular giant goat-antelope)
  20. Chiru (sole representative of genus Panthalops, looks like an antelope but is actually a goat-type animal)
And there it is.
Mostly super easy animals like another zebra, the wisent, wapiti, the pigs, the donkey, and most of the antelope. And a few animals that require a bit more effort, like the takin and muskox, giant eland, pudu, and dikdik.
a pack of just dikdik and klipspringer would be enough for me 🤣
 
A wishful thinking Ungulate Expansion:

20 ungulates, because hardly any new behavior and movement is needed to animate. Some of the following species are extremely similar to existing species in game, so would really require very little work to add in. Why ungulates? Because zoos have a ton of ungulates. Meanwhile, there are comparatively few ungulates in PZ compared to all the carnivores. After this pack I think we'd be set for our ungulates.

  1. Onager (first in game donkey)
  2. Grévy's zebra (second distinct zebra species)
  3. Black rhinoceros (completing the rhino triad)
  4. Collared peccary (representing peccaries)
  5. Red river hog (charismatic African pig)
  6. Eurasian wild hog (staple of Eurasian forests)
  7. Siberian musk deer (representing musk deer, which aren't actually deer)
  8. Wisent (largest European land animal)
  9. Giant eland (largest African antelope)
  10. Greater kudu (because people have been wanting a kudu for a long time)
  11. Nilgai (largest Asian antelope, sole representative of genus Boselaphus)
  12. Blackbuck (iconic Asian antelope)
  13. Dikdik (tiny antelope)
  14. Saiga (critically endangered Asian antelope with a trunk)
  15. Bontebok (representing tsessebes, hartebeests and related)
  16. Wapiti (NA old world deer)
  17. Pudu (represents new world deer, smallest deer)
  18. Takin (popular giant goat from the Himalaya)
  19. Muskox (very popular giant goat-antelope)
  20. Chiru (sole representative of genus Panthalops, looks like an antelope but is actually a goat-type animal)
And there it is.
Mostly super easy animals like another zebra, the wisent, wapiti, the pigs, the donkey, and most of the antelope. And a few animals that require a bit more effort, like the takin and muskox, giant eland, pudu, and dikdik.
If we get the onager and not the Somali wild donkey, I riot.
 
If we get the onager and not the Somali wild donkey, I riot.
Same here! Ba-Donkey-donk rebelion! 😂
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From the trade paper, "However, sales performance during key price promotions in December 2022 fell below expectations, with some evidence of increased player price sensitivity".

While the report then states Planet Zoo was one of the most successful performances of 2022, does that former statement imply the Grasslands Pack underperformed?
Not necessarily- increased price sensitivity could be industry or economy-wide rather than being a specific customer response to one DLC.
 
From the trade paper, "However, sales performance during key price promotions in December 2022 fell below expectations, with some evidence of increased player price sensitivity".

While the report then states Planet Zoo was one of the most successful performances of 2022, does that former statement imply the Grasslands Pack underperformed?
Not specifically
 
My guesses for the release/announcement timeline are:
March 23rd: Update 1.13 Announcement
March 24th: DLC Announcement
April 4th: Update 1.13 and DLC Launch

I feel like it's tough to predict anything other than some likely animal additions. So here's what I'm thinking:
1. Tasmanian Devil
2. Red River Hog
3. Porcupine
4. Fossa
5. Coati

I am fairly certain we'll get at least one of these if it isn't a sole bird pack (which as time goes on, seems less likely). I am personally hoping for a tropical animal pack. But I'm wondering if they'll switch up the pattern with a scenery pack, I hope not! I could see an Islands animal pack in June if they do release a scenery pack in April. I am really thinking we might get walkthrough exhibit birds like budgies at some point. The thing I personally want the most is sloths! I really hope we'll get them before support for the game is dropped. And in actual habitats too (which is what I am positive Frontier would do), WEs would do them dirty and you can't change my mind. 😂

I don't think I have posted anything in the new year, so Happy New Year! I hope you all are doing well!
 
Like many others, I think an Islands DLCs is very possible.
Between all of Earth's islands, there's probably a lot of interesting scenery to be added to the game.
As for the animal roster, I'd predict the fossa, Tasmanian devil, kiwi and something from Japan (serow, sika deer, raccoon dog)
 

I dont know if it was a good idea doing an annual game.
In this economy and trying to match Motorsports manager's success, an annual game was laughable when I read that article. The game itself isn't as bad as some put it but the cost is way too high for that market of games. As long as an annual game doesn't doom other dev teams, yeah why not
 
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