No Single Player offline Mode then?

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Games have fallen at this type of DRM. Sim City is a dead franchise because of it. You really think this is blown out of proportion? No. With the promised offline mode, not only could people play who don't have quality Internet, but also everyone else had a backup plan in case servers go down, FD go out of business, or anything really. You could always just play the game you bought. That's now dead.

And that's not okay.

ED is online game. There's no other DRM than fact that is is built for online.

Let it go.

 

[xxThe_Dice_manxx]

Erm the highist KS backer was DB and Frontier,they are the ones taking the real risk ,their reputations and jobs are on the line ,no one forced anyone to back the game ,choices were made.

If I had 5 grand to throw about willy nilly I obviously have that much money it doesn't matter and I could obviously buy the finest computer and internet service available.

Thanks for your DONATION Liqua but that's all it was,take it on the chin old chap,there is always solo mode.

 

[Susimetsa]

My sincere sympathies to those who backed ED under the impression that an offline mode would be available and who fear they won't be able to play at all without it. It's become increasingly apparent recently that FD bit off more than they could chew and that to release in December would mean a slimmed down version. I confess though I never anticipated this and am disappointed by the news. My own connection is excellent and so I don't need to have an offline mode, but I was looking forward to it nonetheless and feel let down by its withdrawal. I would hope to see DB make a statement on the issue, explaining why it was done, and when - not if but when - we can expect to see an offline mode introduced, but I'm not optimistic. That's not been their modus operandi so far.

Furthermore I have to agree with some of the posts who have commented on the manner in which the news was imparted. They tried to mitigate its effect with mealy mouthed verbiage, and that kind of approach never works in my experience. It just makes people all the more angry and resentful.

What troubles me the most is what this might portend for the future. Whichever way you look at it - and no doubt some will say it portends nothing - it's hardly a confidence building event.

Well said.

I also have a good internet connection, but I wanted the offline mode to be able to pause the game whenever I have to in order to respond to family emergencies etc. I would also have liked the game to start up quickly instead of having to wait for minutes for it to connect to the online world.

 

[cherbert]

And its not just about internet connection.

It is about this with no offline just becomes anouther game in the you are at the mercy of the company servers game. Which is fine if this is not the game you were waiting for thirty years to play and wish to play it for the next thirty years and spent hundreds of pounds on it.

Agreed. Look at World of Warcraft as an example. Many people loved the first version of that. Look how much its changed. We will have no control over the evolution of the game. The evolving universe will be forced onto us whether its a good thing or a bad thing and whether we want it or not.

People miss the point that being tied into an online game like this means Frontier have total control and can literally evolve the game beyond recognition. World of Warcraft now has kids running around with pets following them and an in-game shop trying to persuade you to buy power ups and the latest flying horse. A million miles from the quality MMO that launched back in 2004.

 

[Jason S]

Games have fallen at this type of DRM. Sim City is a dead franchise because of it. You really think this is blown out of proportion? No. With the promised offline mode, not only could people play who don't have quality Internet, but also everyone else had a backup plan in case servers go down, FD go out of business, or anything really. You could always just play the game you bought. That's now dead.

And that's not okay.

Exactly, that's not okay.

You are so right.

 

[ToddlerfromHell]

By the way, did I read in this thread somewhere that the axing of the offline component had NOT been discussed with the DDF at all?
If true, I find that rather curious, as I thought that was what the Design Discussion Forum was all about?

-Toddler

 

[SJT]

FD made mistake promising that feature, period. I have said this many times, they should have stuck with original vision. But that's all I will say. Everything else is blown up out of proportions anyway.

If they'd stuck with the original vision there was the possibility that the Kickstarter would have floundered and no-one would have a game.

 

[strangerdanger]

ED is online game. There's no other DRM than fact that is is built for online.

Let it go.

Still wrong, are we? Let me spell it out for you again: ED uses DRM.

Please, finally, learn what DRM is before you make statements like these. You've been proven wrong before, I'll just do it again.

Digital Rights Management (DRM) is a class of technologies[1] that are used by hardware manufacturers, publishers, copyright holders, and individuals with the intent to control the use of digital content and devices after sale;

Your fanboy is showing.

 

[littleminxundr]

Games have fallen at this type of DRM. Sim City is a dead franchise because of it. You really think this is blown out of proportion? No. With the promised offline mode, not only could people play who don't have quality Internet, but also everyone else had a backup plan in case servers go down, FD go out of business, or anything really. You could always just play the game you bought. That's now dead.

And that's not okay.

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Mainstream media are already picking up on what's going on here. I really don't need to do anything.

Which mainstream media? Only one link has been shared many pages ago, and that had only 3 FB likes. (probably from the reporter, his wife and the cat)

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

Evidence of 1% of the total number of players please?

Stop downplaying it. There have been droves of people in this thread stating their Internet is spotty at best or they work in areas without any at all. Seriously, this kills the game.

Really ... So a handful of people (and it is a handful) , out of what , tens of thousands of backers .. .Thats pretty much 1%

I dont see those same people complaining to Spotify or Steam or Netflix because they have a rubbish internet connection. In the end ED was always pitched as a game that was going to be online, if people didnt 'get that' then thats not FD's fault.

So what exactly have some of these being doing for the last 12 months during alpha and beta then? Twiddling their thumbs .. no .. They have been playing a game online (in some cases with difficulty).

If people genuinely bought the game for offline mode only then fine they deserve a refund (for the retail cost of the game), and that is a small percentage of people, I am sorry but it just is. The rest are just a part of the 'mob' culture who's only pleasure in life is to cause trouble. The game is perfectly playable in Solo mode in on a dodgy connection.

Its funny because all those on a dodgy connection seem to be posting here without any massive issues ...

 

[stimutacs]

Did you even read that thread you posted?

Uh, son, how many reactions would you say are positive to negative in there so far?

 

[Zieman]

By the way, did I read in this thread somewhere that the axing of the offline component had NOT been discussed with the DDF at all?
If true, I find that rather curious, as I thought that was what the Design Discussion Forum was all about?

-Toddler

You're correct. No hint whatsover that offline was even considered to be in danger was dropped in DDF.

 

[strangerdanger]

Really ... So a handful of people (and it is a handful) , out of what , tens of thousands of backers .. .Thats pretty much 1%

I dont see those same people complaining to Spotify or Steam or Netflix because they have a rubbish internet connection. In the end ED was always pitched as a game that was going to be online, if people didnt 'get that' then thats not FD's fault.

So what exactly have some of these being doing for the last 12 months during alpha and beta then? Twiddling their thumbs .. no .. They have been playing a game online (in some cases with difficulty).

If people genuinely bought the game for offline mode only then fine they deserve a refund (for the retail cost of the game), and that is a small percentage of people, I am sorry but it just is. The rest are just a part of the 'mob' culture who's only pleasure in life is to cause trouble. The game is perfectly playable in Solo mode in on a dodgy connection.

Its funny because all those on a dodgy connection seem to be posting here without any massive issues ...

You're pulling numbers out of thin air. Please stop.

 

[cherbert]

You're correct. No hint whatsover that offline was even considered to be in danger was dropped in DDF.

Makes a mockery of the DDF. I feel like we have been made fools of and the forum was created just to satisfy a Kickstarter promise. I knew it wasn't going to live up to the expectations when the day after it launched they scrapped the open posting and only allowed a handful of debate on pre-selected discussion points.

 

[Shayde]

It's the 'from time to time' quote that catches my eye. Like you need to connect to update market data and synch with the universe that ALL players are playing in. But does that mean a constant internet connection ? It sounds more like you need to connect now and again, not a constant connection. I really don't know. It'll be interesting to find out.

 

[strangerdanger]

Makes a mockery of the DDF. I feel like we have been made fools of and the forum was created just to satisfy a Kickstarter promise.

The DDF was indeed a mockery, considering the amount of absent features. I recall Pecisk making precise statements that all these would be in the final game... Not looking likely now that one of the biggest features was cut.

 

[littleminxundr]

Really ... So a handful of people (and it is a handful) , out of what , tens of thousands of backers .. .Thats pretty much 1%

I dont see those same people complaining to Spotify or Steam or Netflix because they have a rubbish internet connection. In the end ED was always pitched as a game that was going to be online, if people didnt 'get that' then thats not FD's fault.

So what exactly have some of these being doing for the last 12 months during alpha and beta then? Twiddling their thumbs .. no .. They have been playing a game online (in some cases with difficulty).

If people genuinely bought the game for offline mode only then fine they deserve a refund (for the retail cost of the game), and that is a small percentage of people, I am sorry but it just is. The rest are just a part of the 'mob' culture who's only pleasure in life is to cause trouble. The game is perfectly playable in Solo mode in on a dodgy connection.

Its funny because all those on a dodgy connection seem to be posting here without any massive issues ...

Seriously, do you believe that you need continuous internet to post online? seriously? I'm sorry guy, white knighting is one thing, reaching while white knighting must some kind of record.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

You're pulling numbers out of thin air. Please stop.

He doesn't. Offliners are very few comparing to 140k people we have now, it is just basic math. Just wiggling with numbers, trying to push FD to reconsider - it won't work.

 

[KoshNarenek]

I am vwey disappointed at thisa annoucement, i bought the beta, with the understanding there will be an offline mode, it did not say anything about it being withdrawn, therefore is very any recourse to get a partial refund on this, as i think it could be misconstrued as bad advertising

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

The DDF was indeed a mockery, considering the amount of absent features. I recall Pecisk making precise statements that all these would be in the final game... Not looking likely now that one of the biggest features was cut.

Can you name big absent features from DDF not being in game today? Please.

Offline mode was never a biggest feature.