As long as you don't look at a hypothetical "Planet Aquarium" as being the same game as "Planet Zoo" but with fish, there's plenty of content for an aquarium game. Look at Megaquarium. It's solely focused on the aquarium aspect, the zoo you build is completely indoors, and it's got tons of species. Yeah, it's stylised and simplified, but it's a good metric of what a decent aquarium game could look like.
Fall DLC 2023 Speculation
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Megaquarium is a great game! I recommend it for everyone here, the steam workshop adds a bunch of cool animals too!
Married people with a family and a job that pay the bills actually play video games. It's called a hobby and it's self-care. Your life won't end with 28, I promise. You'll still have an identity outside of your job and family role.
Bud, I'm 30 and I have a kid.
I'm 33, have been married almost 10 years, and at my career for 8. If we decided to have a kid they will introduced to Planet Zoo lol.
Chill out guys, its too soon for PZ2. We dont have a planco 2 game and we are thinking pz2? JWE2 I can see there is a sequel due the game was commisioned byUniversal. PZ is done and published by frontier. If pz2 is going to happen probably will be a different game like Zoo Tycoon 2 was different from Zoo Tycoon 1. So lets chill, enjoy arid dlc and speculate what we will have in fall.
This might've be mentioned before and I missed it, but could the next pack be climate based?
Completely unrelated to the PZ I happened upon this climate classification, lemme copy/paste the name from Wikipedia: Köppen–Geiger climate classification
Here's a quote from same page:
-"The Köppen climate classification divides climates into five main climate groups, with each group being divided based on patterns of seasonal precipitation and temperature. The five main groups are A (tropical), B (arid), C (temperate), D (continental), and E (polar)."
Last two packs were called Tropical and Arid, specifically, not Rainforest and Desert or in spirit of "-lands" trend, Woodlands and Drylands.
I'm perhaps reading way too much into it, it's just when climates were listed in such specific order, it ringed a bell
Completely unrelated to the PZ I happened upon this climate classification, lemme copy/paste the name from Wikipedia: Köppen–Geiger climate classification
Here's a quote from same page:
-"The Köppen climate classification divides climates into five main climate groups, with each group being divided based on patterns of seasonal precipitation and temperature. The five main groups are A (tropical), B (arid), C (temperate), D (continental), and E (polar)."
Last two packs were called Tropical and Arid, specifically, not Rainforest and Desert or in spirit of "-lands" trend, Woodlands and Drylands.
I'm perhaps reading way too much into it, it's just when climates were listed in such specific order, it ringed a bell
Could be onto something!
Il throw this out there
While that playground section in the poster looked suspicious, a dev confirmed its noting, maybe it’s a teaser for the next dlc?
I don’t know if there have been hints with dlc to imply the next dlc or not
I remember there was a scenario that implied Himalayas and that did not happen
Also I wonder what frontiers dlc plan is going foreword. Instead of doing world biome themes as they only did africa for the desert theme, does this mean we are done getting multi continent dlc? I am disappointed that this dlc only focuses on African desert (with the exception of the porcupine being found in Italy and the camel being invasive to Australia).
While that playground section in the poster looked suspicious, a dev confirmed its noting, maybe it’s a teaser for the next dlc?
I don’t know if there have been hints with dlc to imply the next dlc or not
I remember there was a scenario that implied Himalayas and that did not happen
Also I wonder what frontiers dlc plan is going foreword. Instead of doing world biome themes as they only did africa for the desert theme, does this mean we are done getting multi continent dlc? I am disappointed that this dlc only focuses on African desert (with the exception of the porcupine being found in Italy and the camel being invasive to Australia).
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I was thinking this as well, and there is some potential when considering animal choices for such packs. Tasmanian Devil could act as the flagship animal for a Temperate DLC while the Walrus or Wolverine could headline a Polar Pack. Basing animal picks off the meta wishlist, these could be some potential pack lineups:
Polar Pack (Fall): Walrus, Wolverine, Musk Ox, Rockhopper Penguin, Snowy Owl (Exhibit)
Temperate Animal Pack (Winter): Tasmanian Devil, Kiwi, Wild Boar, Alligator Snapping Turtle, Elk, Tanuki, Chinese Giant Salamander, Bald Eagle for exhibit maybe?
Unfortunately most of the animals high on the meta wishlist are from tropical climates, so if these are really the last DLCs I'm not sure how happy the community would be with the animal selections. A pack based on Polar regions might be a bit repetitive as well, given we already have the Arctic Pack.
There's never going to be solid proof that the game is going to end, but we can't say that we have nothing to indicate it either.
- There's a new own creative IP being launched next year according to their financial report last year. Many speculate that it might be Planet Coaster 2, which might explain why we never got more rides even though that was a requested feature pretty much from the start. Chances of them supporting two major Planet series at the same time are not impossible, but it would be hard to do.
- The financial report last year did not mention that we would get PDLC in the FY2024, instead it specifically said CY2023. That's a big difference compared to how they phrased it in previous years. Now this could just be a new way of phrasing it in their financial report, but it could also be an indication that there will be no more DLCs after the end of the year.
- The new update might also be a hint if we look at the features. I know some people automatically went to "the new camera features were made for content creators", but I don't think these features were made for us to begin with. I'm quite sure that these were dev tools that the people who make the trailers have used, and that Frontier simply (as a figure of speech, I'm sure it wasn't super simple) made them available for everyone. That could indicate that the team is currently not big enough anymore to build big new features for each update and this was an easier way to provide new features. If a future update has something like a scenario editor that might even be more evidence towards that.
At the end of the day, no matter how profitable Planet Zoo is and no matter how many animals the game could still add, there's a bunch of factors that will decide the end of the game. The phrase "as long as it's profitable, they will continue" is an oversimplification of reality. People never like to hear that, but it is what it is.
There are games that are currently in development that we know of that and ones that we don't know of that devs could be pulled to. The game itself is most likely at minimum 6 or 7 years in development and might be running into technical limitations. The current team might get too expensive and replacing them with junior or medior devs might not be an option. They might want to quit at a point where the game is still profitable instead of waiting until it is no longer profitable. The animals needed to keep the game profitable might have technical requirements the current team can't meet. They might be running out of animals the actual team considers marketable. etc. etc.
There are financial reasons, marketing reasons, technical reasons. There are reasons we can think of but there's going to be a lot of reasons we simply can't think of because we're looking at the tip of the iceberg instead of the full picture.
If you ask me, being four years in means that we should take each year we get as a bonus rather than seeing each next year as a guarantee.
Would be funny, because crested porcupine according to this classification has almost nothing to do with arid areas.
Other animals from arid animal pack are found in hot-arid and hot desert climates whereas porcupine prefers tropical and temperate areas.
Well crested porcupines do live in African savannas and scrublands, so it still counts as arid. They also like to eat wild melons so it is an animal of the drylands.
Huh? Overlapping the range of the crested porcupine with that map places it pretty firmly in the arid regions (Northwest Africa, Cyrenaica, Eritrea) along with the tropical regions (West Africa, Tanzania).
I think it's very probable. we may get a temperate/woodlands pack, or some other name that fits that theme. Of course, the twilight pack represented four habitat animals that fell into that, but they haven't tackled that theme directly. Polar is also possible, though I'd think not quite as likely just due to less variety of animals. It could still be done, but a continental climate pack would be more likely since it would cover a larger range. And the fact we have an arctic pack already to represent some of those animals would be another reason a polar pack would be less likely.
I was already betting on a temperate pack for October but now I'm imagining for December. What about a continental animal pack. I don't know if it's just me bit I really like that name. Also it could just cover a general taiga theme getting us things like takin and Wolverine.
Here are temperate and continental ranges according to same classification. Temperate could see some fun combinations, while continental as you said can help round up what's missing in cold areas:
The temperate and polar idea is interesting
Yeah but leaves out a lot of the SA tropical animals that comprise most of my wishlist :/
This maybe caused by the lack of bird species. So, if the Frontier want to continue supporting Planet Zoo, they need to understand that the community would need birds!