AX Restoration tactics

AFAIK you can't reflag an item. However subsequently taken missions should be fine.

Regarding the mission not progressing, how has your connection been at the time? Mine has been flaky over the last week though I'm not sure if that's due to my set up, the weather or the coronal mass ejection that hit the planet last week.
 
Yes, I'm aware of that trigger for the second bug. However, in this case I didn't take ANYTHING. I just powered on the settlement and waited... and... the power on objective disappeared without the next step appearing. The only thing I did do was manage to kill every single Revenant before powering up the base. That's it.
I was only replying to the guy I quoted, not your second point :)
 
AFAIK you can't reflag an item. However subsequently taken missions should be fine.

Regarding the mission not progressing, how has your connection been at the time? Mine has been flaky over the last week though I'm not sure if that's due to my set up, the weather or the coronal mass ejection that hit the planet last week.
As far as I know, my connection has been fine.

A coronal mass ejection hit us last week? Wow, first I heard about that! I'm falling out of the loop.

I guess that mass ejection wasn't too bad... I mean we didn't need magical beings to create forests everywhere, overnight, to create a massive oxygen bubble to shield us from the mass ejection because oxygen repels fire. :)

(for those that aren't aware, what I'm referring to above is an incredibly BAD episode of the new Doctor Who that got the science SO wrong a 6 year old should know better)
 
A coronal mass ejection hit us last week? Wow, first I heard about that! I'm falling out of the loop.

I guess that mass ejection wasn't too bad... I mean we didn't need magical beings to create forests everywhere, overnight, to create a massive oxygen bubble to shield us from the mass ejection because oxygen repels fire. :)
S1/S2, Arctic pilots got alerted. For the rest of us, singers or political windbags saying as little as possible in as many words as they can is apparently more newsworthy...
Fortunately the magnetosphere works!
 
Now, after U16 I can't find any AX restoration missions. Of course I didn't check all the possible places, but checked many stations around HIP 21261, in human controlled, recovery and alert systems, and nothing. In fact, HIP 20056 (recovery) has some ax missions but only for the settlements in the same system, and these are not "real" ax missions.
What's interesting Alert systems have no missions at all, mission board is empty. Maybe it will change tomorrow, after weekly tick. Now, when you jump to such a system, it's written "Alert Over".
However, I visited 2 military settlements in HIP 21261, reactivated them with own PR and E-Breaches, and now the fires are really extinguished, as promised in patch notes.
Everything else is the same as before U16.
 
These are the one I know of at the moment. Have done one yesterday and everything still works, and the fires are actually extinguished when you deprive them of oxygen.

Indra
65 Kappa Tauri 11.9 Ly ➤ HIP 20679
HIP 20948 6.0 Ly ➤ HIP 20679 & HIP 21261
 
These are the one I know of at the moment. Have done one yesterday and everything still works, and the fires are actually extinguished when you deprive them of oxygen.

Indra
65 Kappa Tauri 11.9 Ly ➤ HIP 20679
HIP 20948 6.0 Ly ➤ HIP 20679 & HIP 21261
But now, there's no any missions in this systems. Yesterday those two Alert systems were cleaned, "Alert Over", and then all the missions (not only ax restoration) dissappeared.
Probably you visited them before the alert state ended.
This must be a bug, I will try to ask in U16 thread.
 
Now, after U16 I can't find any AX restoration missions. Of course I didn't check all the possible places, but checked many stations around HIP 21261, in human controlled, recovery and alert systems, and nothing. In fact, HIP 20056 (recovery) has some ax missions but only for the settlements in the same system, and these are not "real" ax missions.
What's interesting Alert systems have no missions at all, mission board is empty. Maybe it will change tomorrow, after weekly tick. Now, when you jump to such a system, it's written "Alert Over".
However, I visited 2 military settlements in HIP 21261, reactivated them with own PR and E-Breaches, and now the fires are really extinguished, as promised in patch notes.
Everything else is the same as before U16.
So Scorpion SRVs are still Thargoid scout magnets while Scarabs are ignored (unless you go crazy and fire on the scout or something)? Great.
 
So Scorpion SRVs are still Thargoid scout magnets while Scarabs are ignored (unless you go crazy and fire on the scout or something)? Great.
This I didn't check, I was in Scarab only. So, this is next thing to do, to test with Scorpion. But I have to say this:
I'm getting a bit tired of that testing after every update. To discover again and again what works and what doesn't.
I spend three hours to find out that the mission boards are empty when the alert system is over, and I still don't know if it's a bug or on purpose, but what I do know is that it's not fun, it's not gameplay.
 
I spend three hours to find out that the mission boards are empty when the alert system is over, and I still don't know if it's a bug or on purpose, but what I do know is that it's not fun, it's not gameplay.
If that includes the passenger missions I think it's very disappointing - another case of new content being added (the wealthy passenger evacs) but barely accessible due to being dependent on rare system states.
 
If that includes the passenger missions I think it's very disappointing - another case of new content being added (the wealthy passenger evacs) but barely accessible due to being dependent on rare system states.
Yes, passenger lounge also empty, I'm still in HIP 20948, so I was able to check immediately. I can't confirm for other systems, because I lost my will to travel around for nothing.
Isn't that similar to Orthrus - new content was added, but it was so rare at first, that everyone stopped looking for it and no one was into it anymore. Now it's ok, but it needed how long? Two, three months?
 
This I didn't check, I was in Scarab only. So, this is next thing to do, to test with Scorpion. But I have to say this:
I'm getting a bit tired of that testing after every update. To discover again and again what works and what doesn't.
I spend three hours to find out that the mission boards are empty when the alert system is over, and I still don't know if it's a bug or on purpose, but what I do know is that it's not fun, it's not gameplay.
Yep. We have to test everything and then report it to an Issue Tracker that will automatically expire our tickets if they aren't popular. Seriously, FDEV, is this an Issue Tracker or Twitter/TikTok?! People reporting issues (with video evidence, images, etc.) shouldn't be dismissed because their report didn't get enough likes!

It's all but guaranteed I'll be taking a long break from this game when Starfield comes out. And no, I don't think Starfield is better than everything than Elite. Far from it. And Starfield will have bugs. But you know what it will also have? It will have a Console command system you can use to work around bugs, modders that may fix bugs (or design decisions) by those Devs, and it won't have a stupid issue tracker that expires tickets due to a lack of popularity!
 
I swear to... sigh

Ok, so they fixed the fire issue in AX Restoration missions. Great, assuming that's true. Did they remove all the AX Restoration missions?! Prior to the update, I was hitting HIP 19198, which is a Thargoid controlled system (still the case) and has Fourteen military installations. In the last week, I was getting the missions from Unkety (about 9 ly away) and HIP 17742. The later had a more convenient station, but tended to offer less missions.

Neither of these systems are offering me ANY AX Restoration missions for HIP 19198 (still firmly under Thargoid control). Not from the "Operations" section of the ship mission board, nor the "Support" section of of the on-foot terminals. Not one mission offered. Not a single one!

Anyone else having trouble finding AX Restoration missions?

I check back in after the server tick tomorrow. If it's still an issue, I may go ahead and suspend all my fleet carrier services and take a long break from this game. I've seriously had it...
 
I swear to... sigh

Ok, so they fixed the fire issue in AX Restoration missions. Great, assuming that's true. Did they remove all the AX Restoration missions?! Prior to the update, I was hitting HIP 19198, which is a Thargoid controlled system (still the case) and has Fourteen military installations. In the last week, I was getting the missions from Unkety (about 9 ly away) and HIP 17742. The later had a more convenient station, but tended to offer less missions.

Neither of these systems are offering me ANY AX Restoration missions for HIP 19198 (still firmly under Thargoid control). Not from the "Operations" section of the ship mission board, nor the "Support" section of of the on-foot terminals. Not one mission offered. Not a single one!

Anyone else having trouble finding AX Restoration missions?

I check back in after the server tick tomorrow. If it's still an issue, I may go ahead and suspend all my fleet carrier services and take a long break from this game. I've seriously had it...
I think this lack of missions happens when the alert is over. Today, after the weekly tick, missions will probably appear in new alert systems, but possibly also in other, human controlled or recovery systems.
But anyway, I still think it's a bug, because if an alert is finished in one system, it doesn't mean that the whole war is over, so that all missions disappear!
Today we will probably get some new CG, so for a while all players will forget about the current problems, so then some bugs will be patched in 16.01, but only some. Then the excitement about the U17 will start, and that's how the poverty continues.
 
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I think this lack of missions happens when the alert is over. Today, after the weekly tick, missions will probably appear in new alert systems, but possibly also in other, human controlled or recovery systems.
But anyway, I still think it's a bug, because if an alert is finished in one system, it doesn't mean that the whole war is over, so that all missions disappear!
Today we will probably get some new CG, so for a while all players will forget about the current problems, so then some bugs will be patched in 16.01, but only some. Then the excitement about the U17 will start, and that's how the poverty continues.
Usually you can find them in systems without Alerts so long as they are within 20 LY of the system with occupied military settlements.
As indicated by the mention of on foot terminals.
I'll be doing a check later myself, hopefully things should be back to previous state of affairs.
 
I think this lack of missions happens when the alert is over. Today, after the weekly tick, missions will probably appear in new alert systems, but possibly also in other, human controlled or recovery systems.
But anyway, I still think it's a bug, because if an alert is finished in one system, it doesn't mean that the whole war is over, so that all missions disappear!
Today we will probably get some new CG, so for a while all players will forget about the current problems, so then some bugs will be patched in 16.01, but only some. Then the excitement about the U17 will start, and that's how the poverty continues.

Usually you can find them in systems without Alerts so long as they are within 20 LY of the system with occupied military settlements.
As indicated by the mention of on foot terminals.
I'll be doing a check later myself, hopefully things should be back to previous state of affairs.

Felix is right on the money. I've been doing these missions for weeks now, and the system you get the mission from doesn't have to be in Alert. It just needs to be within 20 ly of the Thargoid controlled (and possibly invasion state, though never found those) state.

The systems I listed in my previous post (both target system and systems giving missions) aren't the first set I've done. I moved there after the last system I used to visit was recovered by humanity and taken off the table.

HIP 19198 is firmly under Thargoid control. It hasn't even come close to crossing the 33% line where all the progress won't reset.

I prefer to take missions FROM a system in Alert state, as that should help both systems. The only difference in taking the missions in an Alert/Invaded system vs. a normal system is the former requires you to take the missions in your ship under the "Operations" section of the mission board. If in a normal system, you can still find some of the AX restoration missions in that section of the ship mission board, and those choices - plus a few more, on occasion - from the Support section of the On-Foot terminal mission board.

Post update 16 - None of these missions were present. There wasn't a system state change, but those missions are just GONE.

I will check again, when I get home tonight, to see if the server tick had any effect. My suspicion is that they accidentally borked the mission board system. I searched that blasted Issue tracker of theirs and someone had already posted an issue stating that all the missions they were doing (non AX) from Robigo were missing from their mission boards once 16 dropped, so this may be related to more mission types than simply AX Restoration. It clearly isn't ALL missions, as I still saw plenty of normal missions on both boards.

If I confirm the issue, I'll add it to that other guy's ticket, since it's probably related. And then I'm out. I am FED UP with having to find, document, and report their bugs and then watch the issue expire in their issue tracker.
 
I just checked Khwal (fresh Alert), as expected AX restoration missions are there (to Mapon) and passenger missions too.
Then I checked Chibis (Human controllled) but no AX restoration missions, even if Mapon is only 7,5 LY far. Outposts in Chibis are under thargoid attack.
I checked Hez Ur, no Ax restoration, even if it's only 8.9 LY from Mapon. (checked ship and on-foot missions). Only one ax restoration for Vucumatha, but this system is in post-thargoid recovery state, it means it's not ax mission.
Vucumatha also has only this type of "soft" ax restoration, which is not in thargoid controlled system. Outposts are under thargoid attack.
Canaharvas - the same like Vucumatha. Even if Canaharvas is Human Controlled, there are AX CZs, outposts under attack, but no "hard" AX restorations for Mapon.

All in all, I checked all inhabited systems in 20 LY range around Mapon (Cocijo region) and only Alert systems (Khwal and Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11) offer AX restoration for Mapon.
Other systems, human controlled or recovery state offer only AX restoration in recovery systems. (Of course, I didn't check all the stations and settlements in every system.)
Does it mean that after U16 we can find our missions in Alert systems only, and only during this time when Alert is active?
This I don't know, we should check more possible target systems.
 
I just checked Khwal (fresh Alert), as expected AX restoration missions are there (to Mapon) and passenger missions too.
Then I checked Chibis (Human controllled) but no AX restoration missions, even if Mapon is only 7,5 LY far. Outposts in Chibis are under thargoid attack.
I checked Hez Ur, no Ax restoration, even if it's only 8.9 LY from Mapon. (checked ship and on-foot missions). Only one ax restoration for Vucumatha, but this system is in post-thargoid recovery state, it means it's not ax mission.
Vucumatha also has only this type of "soft" ax restoration, which is not in thargoid controlled system. Outposts are under thargoid attack.
Canaharvas - the same like Vucumatha. Even if Canaharvas is Human Controlled, there are AX CZs, outposts under attack, but no "hard" AX restorations for Mapon.

All in all, I checked all inhabited systems in 20 LY range around Mapon (Cocijo region) and only Alert systems (Khwal and Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11) offer AX restoration for Mapon.
Other systems, human controlled or recovery state offer only AX restoration in recovery systems. (Of course, I didn't check all the stations and settlements in every system.)
Does it mean that after U16 we can find our missions in Alert systems only, and only during this time when Alert is active?
This I don't know, we should check more possible target systems.
In the non-alert systems, did you also get out of your ship and check the on-foot mission boards (Support Section)? Just want to be sure everything was checked.
 
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