Winter 2023 DLC Speculation

How about let’s not? How about let’s make meaningful posts that add value to the forums instead of the mindless spam that seems to be clogging up half the threads these days?
Well, I do meant by meaning post to 500. Don't know what's in your mind thinking other's post wouldn't be meaningful.
 
I still really don't think puffins would work as habitat animals, first they are absolutely tiny and they basically just sit on rocks to nest and then fly into sea to fish. Idk why but I get the assumption people here see them like "mini penguins" when they really arent.

I would love a seabird walkthrough exhibit though, with Inca terns or something.
 
Where did you see one? :)
Mustelids are all delightfully nuts.
There’s a handful of US zoos with them, mostly non-AZA. I’ve seen them at Brights Zoo and Carson Springs Wildlife Conservation Foundation… although I didn’t pay so much attention to them at the latter because I was more enthralled by the only rusty spotted cats in the western hemisphere just across from them.
 
Based on the current discussion, I will organize my speculated DLC topics

December 2023: Mountain DLC/Plateau DLC(7+1)

2024 3: Central America DLC/Amazon DLC(4+1)

2024.6: Indian Animal DLC(7+1)

2024.9: Forest DLC(4+1)

2024.12: East Asian Animal DLC(7+1)

2025.3:Climbing DLC/ Reptile DLC ?

2025.6: Safari DLC(7+1)

2025.9: Farm DLC(4+1)

2025.12: Tundra DLC(4+1)
 
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Based on the current discussion, I will organize my speculated DLC topics

December 2023: Mountain DLC/Plateau DLC(7+1)

2024 3: Central America DLC/Amazon DLC(4+1)

2024.6: Indian Animal DLC(7+1)

2024.9: Forest DLC(4+1)

2024.12: East Asian Animal DLC(7+1)

2025.3:Climbing DLC/ Reptile DLC ?

2025.6: Safari DLC(7+1)

2025.9: Farm DLC(4+1)

2025.12: Tundra DLC(4+1)
If they are smart, they should do that.
 
I'd prefer something like a Northwest Pack as a scenery pack, rather than a full Tundra animal pack for what is literally the least biodiverse region in the world. Walrus, sea otter, and then pick two between the black bear, wolverine (if it hasn't already been added), North American porcupine, musk ox, elk, and maybe a waterfowl like the king eider or trumpeter swan.

No idea why people are talking about stoats. The Arctic hare also seems like mammal box-checking rather than something people actually want.
A North West pack would need the American Black Bear with color morphs. You xan't show the wildlife of the Great Bear Rainforest without it.
 
I still really don't think puffins would work as habitat animals, first they are absolutely tiny and they basically just sit on rocks to nest and then fly into sea to fish. Idk why but I get the assumption people here see them like "mini penguins" when they really arent.
I don't understand how "tiny animals shouldn't be habitat" keeps being brought up when Frontier clearly doesn't think that way. We have a whole bunch of smaller habitat animals that could be considered "tiny" and we still have them. Like, Atlantic puffins are similar in body length to meerkats, so how would that be a factor in the decision of it being habitat or not? 😅
 
Does anyone care about the second lynx? I definitely want a Canadian lynx
I think it's suitable for adding to the tundra pack
I would like a second warmer climate lynx bobcat or Iberian lynx
I don't understand how "tiny animals shouldn't be habitat" keeps being brought up when Frontier clearly doesn't think that way. We have a whole bunch of smaller habitat animals that could be considered "tiny" and we still have them. Like, Atlantic puffins are similar in body length to meerkats, so how would that be a factor in the decision of it being habitat or not? 😅
basically unless its a reptile the will make it a habitat animal
 
basically unless its a reptile the will make it a habitat animal
I think it's more of a two lane street.

The original concept of exhibit boxes was to simulate the animals that don't move that much when you watch them in zoos. Amphibians, small reptiles, insects and spiders all fit that bill. You can easily simulate the experience you have in a zoo with looped animals like that. Regardless of the size of the boxes, I still think this was a very good move on their part.

The walkthrough exhibit seems to be for animals they can't do in a habitat with the currently sized team because of the complexity of the animals locomotion system or when the need driven behavior of Planet Zoo gets in the way. Flying animals are a good example of the first, the sloth is the example of the second. The locomotion system clearly needs to be very complex compared to the existing system; and not something as simple as "the climbing wouldn't look perfect", or else we would have had walkthrough exhibit gibbons lol.

Other than that, Frontier clearly goes for habitat where they can.
 
I think it's more of a two lane street.

The original concept of exhibit boxes was to simulate the animals that don't move that much when you watch them in zoos. Amphibians, small reptiles, insects and spiders all fit that bill. You can easily simulate the experience you have in a zoo with looped animals like that. Regardless of the size of the boxes, I still think this was a very good move on their part.

The walkthrough exhibit seems to be for animals they can't do in a habitat with the currently sized team because of the complexity of the animals locomotion system or when the need driven behavior of Planet Zoo gets in the way. Flying animals are a good example of the first, the sloth is the example of the second.

Other than that, Frontier clearly goes for habitat where they can.
I agree fully with the statement on walkthroughs

however for the regular exhibit box I think there a 3 factors one is size there are just things too small to make work such as the spiders the second is just like the walkthroughs it provides ways of including animals like snakes with difficult locomotion styles to animate and 3 at the time of the base games creation it was a way of adding smaller animals that would have been annoying to work with in the current habitat system ie iguanas which easily move more then the tortoises but would be annoying to create when the smallest thing in the base game was probably also the tortoise and planet zoo is not built for small habitat animals at all.
 
New convo: Discussing which Fish you want in the game.
American paddlefish, easily. The sole survivor of a group of fish unchanged since the early Cretaceous, would probably be in my top three most-wanted North American species, fairly widespread in captivity and also able to be bred in captivity. They can also be kept not only in tanks, but in open-topped pools, lakes and moats.

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I do find interesting that they say they tested the sloth as habitat before deciding to make it walkthrough, would that mean the tropical pack would have had 5 habitat animals? Or more likely, that one of the 4 habitat animals was decided only after discarding the sloth as habitat (my bet is on the Asian water monitor)

Personally I don't really care about the puffin and I don't really see how it would work well, either as habitat or as walkthrough. The walkthrough exhibit to begin with would look horrible because it would be a massive estructure of cliffs and pools instead of just items scattered around the floor, and for habitat they would look really awkward in terms of behavior, and building an exhibit for such a tiny bird wouldn't be the most exciting thing. In terms of coastal birds I find pelican and ibis to be way more likely contenders.

Honestly I don't think we talk about the ibis enough, they would be such a merry addition, really would give a dash of color to the zoos with their intense red plumage, they would be rather simple animals to keep but maybe Frontier could level em up with some interesting enrichment items like a roosting platform or a perching fallen log, that would be great tbh.
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If you guys ask for every small cute mammal without a meaningful captive presence we're never getting birds or monkeys.
We want arctic hare because it's a lagomorph option, the being cute is just an extra that comes with it :p Arctic hares might not be present in captivity, but regular rabbits are by far the most common animals in zoos. You saying that out of spite for the quokka aren't you :> (I kinda agree but I honestly appreciate the quokka more now, a smol marsupial is useful)
 
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