Only language I want to say to them comes out of the barrel of an advanced plasma charger.
Bill
Taranis Destroyed!
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Bill
I never shoot a Thargoid. Maybe there is an other way.
My Xeno-Explorer-Ships don't have weapons, only all sensors and detectors which exists ingame.
After an interdiction i tried to communicate whit de flower-ships (if they are not attac me).
I tried it with lights on/off,
using ingamechat with german and english words, the nuber PI, some mathematical and chemical data and constants but no reactions.
I try (tried) it again and again after every new update. Maybe (I hope) there is a way in futurefor communication with the Thargoids without weapons.
Some said, we didn't see Thargoid-People until now. Maybe it's not correct, have a look.
Is this a Thargoid in this cockpit? Are there 2 (or 4?) lifeforms in one ship (in the right and left hand side) ?
Greetings and o7
My Xeno-Explorer-Ships don't have weapons, only all sensors and detectors which exists ingame.
After an interdiction i tried to communicate whit de flower-ships (if they are not attac me).
I tried it with lights on/off,
using ingamechat with german and english words, the nuber PI, some mathematical and chemical data and constants but no reactions.
I try (tried) it again and again after every new update. Maybe (I hope) there is a way in futurefor communication with the Thargoids without weapons.
Some said, we didn't see Thargoid-People until now. Maybe it's not correct, have a look.
Is this a Thargoid in this cockpit? Are there 2 (or 4?) lifeforms in one ship (in the right and left hand side) ?
Greetings and o7
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Or for that matter, do we know they even understand the concept of a spoken language, or even familes and children as a concept or even the concept of innocence and guilt?
This one, I can say (something). The Codex tells us from old INRA research that the Thargoids occasionally vocally communicate with what I remember described as hissing, chittering(or something?) and similar noises, be that at each other or at humans. Something which we can’t just understand like that, evidently.
T. James’s Out of the Darkness strongly implies they can understand these concepts at an intellectual level (though probably not emotional). Then again, it is not really clear how much of that novel is considered canon by FDev.
elite dangerous canon is only what is in elite dangerous
There is a clip of a movie and I really can't remember what it was. The government wanted to communicate with aliens. Some army guy is asking a scientist woman how they should go about it.
She breaks it way down to the most basic level. He wanted to know how to ask them a question. She explained that it would take a long time. First, they'd have to determine if the aliens even understand the concept of what a question is.
I have seen something say this novel was endorsed by Braben himself(though I didn't further check myself to see where that originated - so take with a large grain of salt), and there does appear to be indirect reference through a tourist beacon in the game pointing in the direction of the novel's events(possibly - some interpretation may be required... because I don't accurately recall the contents of its message).
Possibly more or less coincidentally, Peregrina is also in the game and one of its moons is strangely/mysteriously sectioned off as a plague world. Without a lot of details as to what that 'plague' does, exactly, only that it seems to be caused by microorganisms or something.
But Frontier do love their vague lore, so I doubt a straightforward answer will be forthcoming soon. If at all.
Possibly more or less coincidentally, Peregrina is also in the game and one of its moons is strangely/mysteriously sectioned off as a plague world. Without a lot of details as to what that 'plague' does, exactly, only that it seems to be caused by microorganisms or something.
But Frontier do love their vague lore, so I doubt a straightforward answer will be forthcoming soon. If at all.
The Elite Dangerous novels were written to be canon for Dangerous. So far there is still little to suggest that has changed - not that it really matters for this topic, anyway. I don't think answers about if the Thargoids understand language would change anyone's approach.
Short of the entire lore documents being published, there are always going to be questions about the Thargoids - and as long as there's that uncertainty, who can say we're wrong for our own actions?
But, uh, anyway, we know the Guardians figured out how to speak with the Thargoids. So that's one answer, for what it's worth.
Arrival?
I really don't know. I actually saw it as a clip from someone discussing the subject. He also talked about a story where humans were force mutated. Some became gazelle like animals with human brains. Forever knowing what they once were but could not do anything they used to do as humans.
Some were made flat on a 10g world and had to crawl about.
Don’t know about Braben, but Michael Brookes did reply to someone asking whether the evens of Out of the Darkness are canon — in his trademark style, kinda-sorta-implying “yes”.
Mind that was mid-2016, and Frontier might have changed the lore under the hood quite a bit since then.
So Ram Tah claims, based on what Guardians allegedly wrote in their logs, which may be just war propaganda ("Look, honest, we didn't start the war, we tried to talk but the alien scum did not listen! Kill'em all!") or Guardians themselves grossly overestimated their understanding of Thargoid language and just spoke gibberish.
I don't think the Guardian logs contain enough detail to be lies, to be honest. What little there is is probably just saying that the Thargoids aren't interested in negotiating over their territory (like us) which checks out. But that's boring and unsurprising so in the years since it became a story about how the Thargoids will attack no matter what.
Ram Tah and others did put some spin on it though with how they use terms like "Guardian space" and "our space" to refer to areas of Thargoid territory, but the core events are probably correct.
the Ram red herring Tah logs*? i wouldnt be surprised if the spin would be a whirlpool...
How do the linked update notes connect to that? Was that a mistake or am I missing something?
Hmm. That's an odd description, and weird for it to come in this way. I guess it could refer to the mission itself being misinterpreted, at a stretch, but it's written as if Tah himself is a red herring. Weird.
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