Where are you getting your information on who fired first? I think you are confusing that with who won the resulting fight. (Note: I still disagree with the idea of damning an entire species based on who shot first hundreds of years ago)
Taranis Destroyed!
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Maybe these Thargoids are unconnected with the ones from ~500 years ago because our earlier attempted at genocide worked and non of them got back to tell them about us.
I know because that's their directive when humans show a glimmer of resistance to their oppression.
Walking off with anything not nailed down is how I principally earn a living these days, I can confirm the humans are indeed most violently unhappy about it if I get caught XD
Honestly the Thargoids seem more chill about me farming their meta-alloys
Sounds like circular logic. You know because you know.
Well, if you want to tell me how they behave when you use a pulse neutraliser, or what they were doing when Jameson was plodding about the one galaxy we've ever explored minding his
own business, you're free to do so.
Been a long time since I've used a pulse neutraliser in the nebulae but I don't believe it causes any significant changes. If by Jameson you mean the First Thargoid War in general, that resulted from human attacks on Thargoids in Veliaze, which then escalated from there.
This is the same Jameson whose crashed ship we can visit the one who launched a bio weapon at the Thargoids?
I ask because I am aware that there were more than one of them.
Only because they felt they had no other choice. Aegis had failed, Salvation was all that was left.
Even then, I don't think anyone really expected his weapon to fully kill all the thargoids. It was basically a big bomb, that had been used to take out entire systems before. The idea that it would somehow kill them all was just fantasy talk by a crazy guy.
Yes, his ship was sabotaged...
They never tried the other choices. And while Salvation's descriptions of the Proteus Wave's capabilities were often contradictory, the general idea was "kill so many of them they can never fight us again". That is genocide, even if it's not extinction.
Another way to look at it rather than relying on definitions might be to ask why they wanted to deliberately cause a big fight in Thargoid territory to use this weapon, rather than deploying it to defend our own territory. Because the powers want it all.
Thanks. I had exactly that feeling too. Simply saying "it's war" isn't enough of a justification for me. I think we could solve this better if we showed that we are more than a bunch of murderers.
They tried the other choices for years; they didn't work.
And 'killing enough of the enemy they can't fight anymore' is basically the textbook definition of war.
And killing everyone at random is called genocide.
Not if they're all soldiers. Have you ever seen a civilian thargoid?
I've never seen a Thargoid before. I don't know anything about Thargoids.
Do they have families, children? Are they afraid or in pain?
And yet they are killed without even having to deal with it.
They've been careful to keep any details of their society hidden from us.
However, we've not done the same. We broadcast the details of our personal lives on public channels, easily accessible by anyone. As such, they KNOW we have families and innocents on board our stations, settlements, and outposts.
And they kill them indiscriminately anyway. Either they have no concept of civilians, which is the most generous view, in which case it's okay to kill them as indiscriminately as they do us, or they just don't care, in which case they're evil and it's okay to kill them as indiscriminately as they do us.
No idea, they could be as non military as us commanders.
And do we know if they have managed to translate our broadcasts and the concepts contained in them?
I can tell someone from another human culture about my personal life and vice versa if neither of us really understand what the other is saying do we really KNOW.
So as long as they don’t understand or are evil we can be just as evil in return?
Such as? It was identified years ago that invading Thargoid territory, at the time the Pleiades, was the cause of the war. When did they try addressing that? They didn't, in fact they doubled-down and invaded Witch Head the moment the Pleiades ran dry. Their priorities were very clear at that time.