Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

Sorry if the info has already been spread here, but do you know girls and guys if the Console Edition could delay the next DLC :oops: ?
Thaaanks all!!
It depends It is not delayed on frontiers end they have known about console long enough that its development wouldnt have impacted the packs development time but when we receive the pack will for sure be latter than previous years since the console release is in that window.
Wisent was another great example that anything can be a headliner really. It wasnt the most requested since all except maybe the bear had more votes on the wishlist, and neither was it the most recognizeable or cutest
my opinion is that all a headliner needs to be is the animal the most represents the theme. The camel and the wisent were not the most recognisable but if you asked someone just looking at the image what the packs they represent they could probably guess close to the them bases on the animal. Whereas if the porcupine or swan were the headliner people would be more likely to guess wrong a porcupine doesnt invoke the them of arid as much as the camel does.
 
To add to the topic of museum / education focused packs. I think as a scenery pack it would provide some of the most versatile scenery of any pack rivalling conservation since most zoos have at least some form of educational displays.
Zoos especially more modern zoos have a huge focus on education and often have a large overlap with natural history often with statues depicting prehistoric ancestors of animals in neighbouring enclosures or a brief history of the animals conservation.
a pack of this style could also add other things as well such as the scenery pieces necessary to build proper behind the scenes room such as nurseries and conservation breeding facilities or centres.

there are also plenty of animals that could fit the narrative based on how they wanted it whether that be animals with a strong connection to natural history such as darwins finches, animals that represent conservation good or bad such as cane toad or sumatran rhino, extinct in the wild animals such as the peres davids deer or even animals that look like or represent long lost environments such as the musk ox.

A museum / education pack doesnt need dinosaur bones an taxidermy to be successful at reaching the theme I would prefer if neither of those were the focus of the pack but especially with modern zoos message of conservation that is constantly echoed in planet zoo is see this pack with alot of potential
 
A museum / education pack doesnt need dinosaur bones an taxidermy to be successful at reaching the theme I would prefer if neither of those were the focus of the pack but especially with modern zoos message of conservation that is constantly echoed in planet zoo is see this pack with alot of potential
Not sure on that, Taxidermies/Models are a pretty major component of the biodiversity parts of my local museum, and all I've gone to (A "Taxidermy" is also probably the simplest thing to do in game, just being an animal model in a pose, the real problem is the number of species to do it for). Mounted insect displays are also a major thing.

Fundamentally, normal museums are collections of things, if there's no collection it's just the containers/support for those things, and the information that goes with those things.

If you're talking about the children's type of museum, lots of interactive elements, a more stylised view of things, then I think you probably have a point on blending with PZ.
 
Not sure on that, Taxidermies/Models are a pretty major component of the biodiversity parts of my local museum, and all I've gone to (A "Taxidermy" is also probably the simplest thing to do in game, just being an animal model in a pose, the real problem is the number of species to do it for). Mounted insect displays are also a major thing.

Fundamentally, normal museums are collections of things, if there's no collection it's just the containers/support for those things, and the information that goes with those things.

If you're talking about the children's type of museum, lots of interactive elements, a more stylised view of things, then I think you probably have a point on blending with PZ.
I agree taxidermy is an important of museum and teaching natural history I was more aiming to help others who see a museum pack as entirely about stuff you would find in a museum like taxidermy to see there is more too it than that.
Also this is a zoo game not a museum builder so having a huge collection of taxidermy and skeletons would not quite be the point of the game even though there is a lot of cross over between natural history museums and zoos.
 
Omg guys I had a dream last night where they said on one of their socials that they were having a bonus animal for console. It was the Bald Eagle. I was so hyped, I got up to check here and see if it was on PC too. Then I realized it was just a dream. They also said the last pack was the Wonders of the Americas expansion pack.
 
Omg guys I had a dream last night where they said on one of their socials that they were having a bonus animal for console. It was the Bald Eagle. I was so hyped, I got up to check here and see if it was on PC too. Then I realized it was just a dream. They also said the last pack was the Wonders of the Americas expansion pack.
I know a lot of people here would not like it, but I think an Americas pack could work. With one condition: NA is the least represented in the pack. Genuinely if we get a larger Americas pack, say 12 animals, I think only 2 of those animals should be NA exclusive. Personally my picks would be the American Black Bear, and a native bird like some waterfowl species or the wild turkey. For the rest of the 10 slots either it’s an animal species found along the continents or being SA natives. Here is what I would have in mind:

  1. American Black Bear
  2. Canada goose/ wood duck/ mallard (any waterfowl but the trumpeter swan IMO (I would prefer the black swan as our second one))
  3. Brown Pelican
  4. Black Howler Monkey
  5. Squirrel Monkey/ Golden lion tamarin (second monkey)
  6. White nosed coati
  7. Ocelot
  8. Greater rhea
  9. Patagonian mara
  10. Scarlet ibis/ Caribbean flamingo
  11. For my own personal 100% biased needs I’m gonna put the White faced whistling duck
  12. For the exhibit animal, I think it would be about time we got the macaws. But really anything would do.
 
I know a lot of people here would not like it, but I think an Americas pack could work. With one condition: NA is the least represented in the pack. Genuinely if we get a larger Americas pack, say 12 animals, I think only 2 of those animals should be NA exclusive. Personally my picks would be the American Black Bear, and a native bird like some waterfowl species or the wild turkey. For the rest of the 10 slots either it’s an animal species found along the continents or being SA natives. Here is what I would have in mind:

  1. American Black Bear
  2. Canada goose/ wood duck/ mallard (any waterfowl but the trumpeter swan IMO (I would prefer the black swan as our second one))
  3. Brown Pelican
  4. Black Howler Monkey
  5. Squirrel Monkey/ Golden lion tamarin (second monkey)
  6. White nosed coati
  7. Ocelot
  8. Greater rhea
  9. Patagonian mara
  10. Scarlet ibis/ Caribbean flamingo
  11. For my own personal 100% biased needs I’m gonna put the White faced whistling duck
  12. For the exhibit animal, I think it would be about time we got the macaws. But really anything would do.
This is a really great pack, even without the Spectacled Bear. I realizing the chances of having 2 bears in one pack are pretty much nil, and can't deny the ABB is almost without question North American's highest profile mammal not in the game. So with that, it's acceptable to give NA that space. Definitely liking all of the Latin America picks, not a single one seems excessive. I don't know if they'd do Macaws...even though they'd be incredibly appreciated it would almost be disappointing at the same time, to not get other kind of exhibit based birds. Still, if they were to pick one "group" of birds for exhibits, Macaws make the most sense. Though I'd really miss not having representative Toucans, Eagles, and Cockatoos.
 
This is a really great pack, even without the Spectacled Bear. I realizing the chances of having 2 bears in one pack are pretty much nil, and can't deny the ABB is almost without question North American's highest profile mammal not in the game. So with that, it's acceptable to give NA that space. Definitely liking all of the Latin America picks, not a single one seems excessive. I don't know if they'd do Macaws...even though they'd be incredibly appreciated it would almost be disappointing at the same time, to not get other kind of exhibit based birds. Still, if they were to pick one "group" of birds for exhibits, Macaws make the most sense. Though I'd really miss not having representative Toucans, Eagles, and Cockatoos.
I would be upset too, but macaws can be a good base for other large birds. I just hope modders find a way to add new sounds. Imagine a bald eagle squawking like a parrot 😂
 
Genuinely curious, if we got flying birds in Walkthrough Exhibits what do you think the limitations should be? Which birds would be aviary and which would be habitat. This might sound silly but its a genuine question.

If we look at the bats as our closest comparison, both species are relatively small compared to the birds often suggested (both having wingspans of less than a metres). Compare this to macaws, eagles, vultures, large owls, even some large toucans and hornbills, the size difference is quite big... If Frontier were to add birds to walkthroughs would they go with these big birds or save them for a revised habitat system that allows for flight next game? (of course entirely theoretical) If Frontier do decide to add birds to WE I could definitely see it being limited to smaller birds such as lorikeets, cockatoos, kookaburras, passerines, shorebirds, perhaps even some smaller owl and raptor species (thinking barn owl or falcons here).

Then there is the case of birds such as large pigeons and ibis, almost always kept in aviaries and like to perch in trees... Should these be habitat or aviary birds? Where do people draw the line, is it size, behaviour, or taxonomic group? What do people think?
 
Genuinely curious, if we got flying birds in Walkthrough Exhibits what do you think the limitations should be? Which birds would be aviary and which would be habitat. This might sound silly but its a genuine question.

If we look at the bats as our closest comparison, both species are relatively small compared to the birds often suggested (both having wingspans of less than a metres). Compare this to macaws, eagles, vultures, large owls, even some large toucans and hornbills, the size difference is quite big... If Frontier were to add birds to walkthroughs would they go with these big birds or save them for a revised habitat system that allows for flight next game? (of course entirely theoretical) If Frontier do decide to add birds to WE I could definitely see it being limited to smaller birds such as lorikeets, cockatoos, kookaburras, passerines, shorebirds, perhaps even some smaller owl and raptor species (thinking barn owl or falcons here).

Then there is the case of birds such as large pigeons and ibis, almost always kept in aviaries and like to perch in trees... Should these be habitat or aviary birds? Where do people draw the line, is it size, behaviour, or taxonomic group? What do people think?
In my opinion:

  1. Large birds could work as a habitat, macaws climb like monkeys, large eagles and vultures spend time on the ground. So I can see them working in the habitat system as a “flighted” animal, where they can just jump higher than other animals.
  2. Likewise the larger pigeons and ibis I think can work in the habitat, if we can get prairie dogs we can absolutely get these guys.
  3. Smaller birds that fly too much would be in the WTE: budgies, lorikeets, finches, bee eaters, smaller pigeons, song birds, etc.
I do not know how to do toucans, hornbills, and owls. They fall in a weird place. For hornbills and owls the burrowing owl and southern ground hornbill would obviously be habitat. For other species I don’t know. Toucans are very active so maybe in the WTE?
 
Macaws and toucans should be in the walkthrough exhibit. The toucan can easily fit, it’s small and can have a pretty simple moving system, just have it fly from branch to branch and do a different activity on certain loops like eating or rubbing its beak on the branch it’s on.
Macaws also should be in the exhibit considering how large the box is, even though a macaw is larger than the rest of WTE animals, they don’t have to be the most active. They can stay on one main area and play with their toys and make noises then every so often move around the room.

As for the rest of them like eagles and owls I don’t see them in the WTE because they are dangerous to guests. I still believe that we’ll get toucans or macaws as the final packs exhibit just like how JWE got pteranodons in its finale.
 
Maybe a bigger walkthough exhibit would be working with birds. Making it more realistic. Also I would love to add monkeys in the larger walkthough exhbits, same as other animals. I'm really missing that you can make a walkthough exhibit with ring tailed lemurs for examble.

Best would be that you can custom design walkthough exhibits with you decided the size of the floorprint and selecting where the paths are going. Minimum requirement would be to add one entrance/exit point.
 
I would also want birds to be in the exhibit box as well in addition to both habitat and walkthrough exhibit for realism purposes. I can't just add in a walkthrough exhibit to house some small tropical birds in the average tropical house when the walkthrough exhibit is larger than the entire building.
 
With this being most likely the last DLC, I really don't think flighted birds are coming. I would honestly be annoyed to get a species of macaw (I doubt we'd get more than one species) and then no other birds. I'm still waiting for my two-toed sloth, because the three-toed is an abomination and you can't change my mind. I almost resent it as much as the HBB, black wildebeest, and wild water buffalo.
 
With this being most likely the last DLC, I really don't think flighted birds are coming. I would honestly be annoyed to get a species of macaw (I doubt we'd get more than one species) and then no other birds. I'm still waiting for my two-toed sloth, because the three-toed is an abomination and you can't change my mind. I almost resent it as much as the HBB, black wildebeest, and wild water buffalo.
Lol that is a bit extreme. Model and animations look great. The main problem with the sloth is the horrible climbing frame. Not being common in captivity doesn't make it an abomination, which i assume is your only criteria too group it with that lot (specially since the water buffalo is probably one of the best looking ungulates in the game). The HHB is an abomination in every way, but neither the sloth nor the buffalo can even be compared to it since at least they have a great design.
 
Lol that is a bit extreme. Model and animations look great. The main problem with the sloth is the horrible climbing frame. Not being common in captivity doesn't make it an abomination, which i assume is your only criteria too group it with that lot (specially since the water buffalo is probably one of the best looking ungulates in the game). The HHB is an abomination in every way, but neither the sloth nor the buffalo can even be compared to it since at least they have a great design.
They definitely aren't bad models except for the HBB. And yes, whether it's common in captivity is my main criteria. Especially when there's an obvious popular alternative, just a waste of roster space imo. Hot take, I know
 
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