DLC18 discussion and predictions

[Markiz]

CKIII is expecting huge new expansion in summer/autumn. And yesterday (I believe?) there was Dev Diary on the progress.

Aside from dev diary itself, (which almost half of which had game director openly acknowledging and discussing players feedback on previous update/dlc) the game director actively engaged users on forum and went back and forth on what should or shouldn't be in new dlc and what is possible, what are his thoughts and what have developers said and so on...

And of course every game company works differently and God only knows what company can afford what level of transparency for plethora amount of reasons outside their control.

But it was so nice to witness it for a change. I am not too into games besides this two so I don't know how common or rare it is, but I bet it would definitely help with expectations and frustrations in this community if we had a percent of similar communication.

Also don't take this for bootlicking Paradox, however it may sound I'm very uninvolved with CKIII community (so much so that some DLC took me by surprise) but it was definitely a breath of fresh air.

Post in thread 'Dev Diary #147 - Some Words from Our Game Director' https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-from-our-game-director.1673686/post-29594177

 

[nutrit]

Do you remember this one?

 

[CharlieXGaming]

Do you remember this one?
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No way Impala and possum are on here but no baboon

 

[Captain Callum]

Do you remember this one?
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That must be a quite a while back, would be interesting to see what a more recent one could look like.

 

[nutrit]

No way Impala and possum are on here but no baboon

Right?
Impala again…

And yak was so popular then? It’s from 2020. Weird.
But we already got most of them by now.

 

[nutrit]

These are the ones from the list that are still not in the game in that particular order:
1. Yak
2. Kudu
3. Tree Kangaroo
4. Musk Ox
5. Markhor
6. Spectacled Bear
7. Guanaco
8. Blackbuck
9. Impala
10. Mangoose
11. Howler Monkey
12. American Black Bear
13. Honey Badger
14. Oppossum
15. Mule Deer

 

[Markiz]

These are the ones from the list that are still not in the game in that particular order:
1. Yak
2. Kudu
3. Tree Kangaroo
4. Musk Ox
5. Markhor
6. Spectacled Bear
7. Guanaco
8. Blackbuck
9. Impala
10. Mangoose
11. Howler Monkey
12. American Black Bear
13. Honey Badger
14. Oppossum
15. Mule Deer

A mule deer? Excuse me?

But then again this was before all the deer we got later

 

[SalamAnders]

These are the ones from the list that are still not in the game in that particular order:
1. Yak
2. Kudu
3. Tree Kangaroo
4. Musk Ox
5. Markhor
6. Spectacled Bear
7. Guanaco
8. Blackbuck
9. Impala
10. Mangoose
11. Howler Monkey
12. American Black Bear
13. Honey Badger
14. Oppossum
15. Mule Deer

This is probably not too far off from what the last pack could look like.

 

[Captain Callum]

This is probably not too far off from what the last pack could look like.

Final pack, one monkey, 8 ungulates... yup

 

[jcp011c]

Interesting that the Yak had so much traction early on. But it's not that discussed now.


@Captain Callum Final pack, one monkey, 8 ungulates... yup

And the Spectacled Bear, Howler Monkey and Guanaco the only South American species.

 

[nutrit]

Yak is shooketh

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[jcp011c]

Coati is also shooketh at the early on exclusion. But..just goes to show That, for mammals anyways the most requested ones now were never really priorities from the start.

 

[Birb（｡･ө･｡）]

Interesting survey, neat to see how the communities tastes have changed. Who divided up those taxonomic categories though lmao? I’m sorry, but four separate categories for carnivorans and a whopping seven for ungulates but habitat birds are squashed together into one. What?

The same is kinda ridiculous for primates and marsupials to a lesser extent.

 

[Topaz Star]

Same, reptiles that aren't crocodilians aren't even on the list

 

[Markiz]

That's what happens when you omit Polar Bears, Jaguars, Kangaroos, Rhinos and such from base game.

Mammals will always be way more popular than other types(?) of animals, but when "essentials" are missing people won't even notice other reptiles and birds.

 

[NachoB]

This is off topic but in the case of a sequel what animals from DLCs you think should be included in base game and which from base game (or DLCs) could be removed?

 

[synthetase]

This is off topic but in the case of a sequel what animals from DLCs you think should be included in base game and which from base game (or DLCs) could be removed?

Hope for all of them to be in the sequel.
Islands DLC would be cool for summer.

 

[Markiz]

This is off topic but in the case of a sequel what animals from DLCs you think should be included in base game and which from base game (or DLCs) could be removed?

I'm all in favor for more generic and popular species to fill out the base game to give it more variety and give DLCs more flexibility to cover special niches. But I guess that's highly subjective and definitely not as profitable.

Here's a rough idea:

In: Polar Bear, Jaguar, Red Kangaroo, African Rhinoceros, Capybara, Meerkat, Moose, Leopard, Penguin, Sea Lion/Seal...

Out: Pangolin, Gharial, Aardvark, Bonobo, Nyala, Both Ruffed Lemurs, Mandrill, Galapagos Tortoise, Pronghorn, Himalayan Bear (obv), Japanese Macaque...

 

[IndianRhino19]

This is off topic but in the case of a sequel what animals from DLCs you think should be included in base game and which from base game (or DLCs) could be removed?

I think that all but the following should be in the sequel if there is one:

Aldabra Giant Tortoise
Bengal Tiger
Arctic Wolf
Dingo
Himalayan Brown Bear
Alpaca
Llama
Dromedary Camel
Bactrian Camel
Sussex Chicken
Hill Radnor Sheep
Alpine Goat
Highland Cattle
Tamworth Pig
American Standard Donkey

Yes, I included all domestic animals here because I believe that Planet Zoo 2 (if it happens) should focus on wild animals. I’m also against the addition of extra subspecies of existing species when other unique animals could be added instead.

 

[Captain Callum]

This is off topic but in the case of a sequel what animals from DLCs you think should be included in base game and which from base game (or DLCs) could be removed?

Keep - Every animal except Himalayan brown bear
Remove - Himalayan brown bear