Maybe on that last part, but it is just speculation.
Still, it was well argued. Thank you for that.
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No Single Player Offline Mode then? [Part 2]
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Maybe on that last part, but it is just speculation.
Still, it was well argued. Thank you for that.
Yeah go play offline as promised.
I'm pretty sure players will be distinguished from NPCs. Something about being in a pilot's guild or something. I'll dig it up after work.
If you can't get a refund, sell your account on ebay and forget ED.
The whole thing will blow over. *shrugs* However, it won't be forgotten and will be raised any time FD talk about feature updates, new projects, etc. The whole thing is future history now - the bad press on the numerous websites, the disgruntled backers... they're still going to exist, be linked to, tell their story, in the future.
By the way, on the "why the heck even bother" (with an online "player-influenced" galaxy) question, Braben's answer to my comment on modding might give a worrying indication of his mindset:
(Emphasis mine.)
His concern about "branching" (and let's remember that we "offliners" expected precisely such a "branch") seems to indicate, to me, that he intends to keep all the community together, under Frontier's control (good job they're doing of that, too, excuse the irony).
This also makes me concerned for the solo and private modes, but the important thing to consider here is why he sees "branch prevention" as such an important concern.
Food for thought, anyway.
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Firstly I'm apologizing for my childish outburst of threatening terrorist like like behavior, in game and on the forums. You are quite right to highlight it as poor behavior.
A combination of bad mood, bad day and booze lead to a reduction of proper behavior.
With that said, it wasn't ever promoted as just a side feature, it had been confirmed as a can a will, and as of January of this year if not later had been confirmed by a Developer in these forums as being there.
You'll no doubt through the you can go online rebuttal again, my connectivity to the internet is not my issue with this.
The value a game that I'll be playing in the vast majority of time as single player that requires a constant internet connection to function is £0.00
This is a personal principal and valuation you will most likely not understand it, and at times I would have dipped online.
Its been tested before, Diablo 3, loved those games was hugely excited when part 3 was finally announced, it was going to have offline single player all new stuff. then they announced before taking money I may add that it would be online only. I still to this day do not and will not own Diablo 3 on PC, I did purchase it for xbox360 and its great.
FD were aware as alpha went to through to beta that offline was become highly unlikely, I think this was said in the Eurogamer article By Mr Braben.
If they'd had mentioned or posted in the forums I'd of seen that been disappointed and not spent a single penny. But they didn't they should have as it had been advertised promoted not just in kickstarter but in forums and interviews.
I checked before I made my purchase but based on the closing release date of q4, the 2nd beta approaching it is not unreasonable that a large feature such as this if going to be removed would have been indicated as such.
From my last network analysis of the game, it looked a -lot- like glassbox in action. Long periods of no activity with small periods of data being sent back and forth. If you can decrypt what data is going back and forth you can easily create a "private seed" virtual server locally for the game to talk to. So I guess it's going to boil down to the obvious - who has the time and mad skillz to reverse engineer the network data and come up with the relevant database schema the network packets need to talk to at a localhost level.
As David already said - it was a Creative and Design decision, not a technical one, because of THE VISIONᵀᴹ, from a network analysis side, this one looks dangerously like once you figure out -what- it's saying and how it's saying it, the arms race is simply how to create the virtual machine at the other end.
So how can people get over it when FD does NOTHING of the above?
regarding 1: Yes, but.... I've read HUNDREDS over HUNDREDS of post pages. I'm yet to see ONE case where a refund was granted.
regarding 2: I'm trying.
Everyone who's happy with the current situation can just go back and play online.
Nobody here said that online should be removed. So the only reason you continue posting here is trolling (and this is the last bite you'll get from me).
regarding 3: Networking protocols ARE NOT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. You can legally reverse engineer them in order to provide functionality to your purchased product. And somebody will. So just giving them out would only be a gesture of good-will from FD.
Yeah. We are a better class of people, with lost of privilege. Look up my "headcanon" thread if you want to see my take on what the players are like. Still, the universe is vast, and if you play solo you get to enjoy the status of a prince or princess without suffering the others.
Now, changing the outcome of a trade embargo or such will of course be quite unlikely when playing solo, but that is true wether or not other players get drawn into it. A single space trucker just isn't enough to decide if a blockade succeeds or fails anyway... though I suppose it might, if you're out on the far frontier, and the worlds in question are quite sparcely populated.
Yes, but the Pilots Federation is not controlled by the players (and we're all in it, it's not really a faction in any significant sense).
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I'm not too worried about that. If Elite delivers a good net code and NPC / Faction interaction it will be a phenomenal game. There are always people who don't like a game, some of them will be vocal. In the balance, this will not really be a long term problem for Elite. The more content is added in the future, the less this will matter or even be remembered.
Doesn't sound legal in any way. Seems there trying to cut losses by pointing to loopholes that wouldn't stand a trial, to me.
I'm not a lawyer, though. If you have a legal protection insurance ask them to cover the case and/or give you legal advise. Usually they have specialist lawyers on a list, for such cases, as it is in their interest no to be loosing at the court and only covering valid cases.
Please, everybody also make your mind up, if you really want to go down that road or not, before making hasty decisions.
A 10,000-post thread has come and gone, and this new one, at maybe 6 hours old, is already into its 14th page, but you can't believe it?
I'd say that says more about you than it does about the offline mode, to be honest.
Well then, ask for a refund. It sounds like you would qualify.
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