Or maybe we were supposed to get our duck but they scrapped it for an ass.
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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Domestics pack featuring only UK domestic animals! Oh yeah and alpaca for diversity too. The reaction to barnyard was bad enough as it was.
Yeah but you can't really noticed with most animals. But for the animals that do matter because they are known for their characteristics sound (and on top of that they are charging for them) they should do it right.Probably a mix of gibbon and capuchinIt's not like there isn't any howlers in the UK to record like they did with the porcupines for the arid pack, my expectations are pretty low as I'm sure Eurasia reused tons of sounds aswell due to the similar animals ingame.
I mean, it's good enough to wildcard port it creatures to the base game:
Community Crunch 408: Introducing Ceratosaurus from ARK: Additions
We're thrilled to announce that we'll be bringing a taste of the popular Garuga123 mod ARK: Additions directly into the base game. These creatures may see some tweaks along the way for balance and design, but one thing's for sure: they are coming, and they are ready to shake things up! Get ready ...
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Community Crunch 409: Introducing Xiphactinus from ARK:Additions!
Remember when we announced that Ceratosaurus from ARK:Additions is being integrated into the core game in the last Community Crunch? Well, get ready, because the fearsome Xiphactinus is next! Even though we may make a few changes to the design of the creatures from ARK: Additions, these beasts ar...
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That's not the reason though.
Frontier and pz as a whole is hostile toward mods, with mods breaking each update, frontier not allowing photos of them here and not being helpfull towards them.
Meanwhile wildcard made a mod-making tool, giving it for free for anyone who wants it, pay modders that make popular mods, made the ark workshop a "mod shop", allowing everyone interesting on mods have a extremelly easy way to install them and made a ingame way to let players decide which mods are active.
It's not about the game style, is about how the devs threat modders and mods.
Yeah sure, thats all true.I mean, it's good enough to wildcard port it creatures to the base game:
Community Crunch 408: Introducing Ceratosaurus from ARK: Additions
We're thrilled to announce that we'll be bringing a taste of the popular Garuga123 mod ARK: Additions directly into the base game. These creatures may see some tweaks along the way for balance and design, but one thing's for sure: they are coming, and they are ready to shake things up! Get ready ...Community Crunch 409: Introducing Xiphactinus from ARK:Additions!
Remember when we announced that Ceratosaurus from ARK:Additions is being integrated into the core game in the last Community Crunch? Well, get ready, because the fearsome Xiphactinus is next! Even though we may make a few changes to the design of the creatures from ARK: Additions, these beasts ar...
That's not the reason though.
Frontier and pz as a whole is hostile toward mods, with mods breaking each update, frontier not allowing photos of them here and not being helpfull towards them.
Meanwhile wildcard made a mod-making tool, giving it for free for anyone who wants it, pay modders that make popular mods, made the ark workshop a "mod shop", allowing everyone interesting on mods have a extremelly easy way to install them and made a ingame way to let players decide which mods are active.
It's not about the game style, is about how the devs threat modders and mods.
But you said you have a high standard in models, which is way easier to do in mods when the game is stylized vs almost photorealistic, which is what i refered to.
Also its probaly important to consider that Ark is WAY further in its developement than PZ, so who knows maybe Frontiers attitude towards mods will change once the game is wrapped up
And obviously everyone is allowed to have their own opinion on mods, and if they wanna make use of them or not.
But to say they arent good quality is just factual untrue, alot of them are almost frontier level. And frankly speaking quite a few of them are even higher quality than alot of the early DLC and basgame animals
But to say they arent good quality is just factual untrue, alot of them are almost frontier level. And frankly speaking quite a few of them are even higher quality than alot of the early DLC and basgame animals
And i agree, some of the remasters are infinitelly better than the base model (looking at you, grey wolf) i just don't use it both because i don't want to reinstall them again each update and because i don't know how they act on franchise.
Yeah i'm not using mods either for now until development wraps up. But i'm tracking all the ones i want
I don't think any new animals mods actually work on franchise because of the online status and new animals don't mix. Remasters work in theory because it's still a base game file you are using.
I am not sure if I would call that hostility towards mods. I think they are pretty neutral about it. They just dont want to be associated with them, which frankly is understandable. I have seen people on Reddit complaining about game crashing, turned out they had outdated mods. Why would Frontier want to deal with that? They are not responsible for the mods someone else code in their game. That is not hostility. You can even talk freely about mods as long as you do not post pictures/links because of course some people would confuse them for official content and then Frontier would have to answer question when there would be issues with them.
Some people act like Frontier intentionally change things in updates so the mods would break on purpose. They do not, they just do their thing and sometimes it just mess with the mods. But they are not thinking "Lets show these modders a leasson and break all their mods. Teach them to mod our game!". That is ridiculous.
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I mean, I wouldn’t call an executive saying positive things about the modding community during a shareholder meeting “hostile.” 
And I’m pretty sure they’ve accidentally posted screenshots of remasters so….
I think @FoxyDee nailed it. It’s more about what Frontier doesn’t want to deal with than any sort of ill will. If anything, I think it’s been demonstrated that they’re pretty okay with it but just won’t officially endorse it. Which makes sense given how confusing it might make things for some people.
And I’m pretty sure they’ve accidentally posted screenshots of remasters so….I think @FoxyDee nailed it. It’s more about what Frontier doesn’t want to deal with than any sort of ill will. If anything, I think it’s been demonstrated that they’re pretty okay with it but just won’t officially endorse it. Which makes sense given how confusing it might make things for some people.
Anyways, since everyone was posting their own wishlist for last pack, I tried to cover my most basic wants into a 8 animals pack:
1. Colourful South American bird - Roseatte Spoonbill/Scarlet Ibis
2. Any South American monkey - Squirrel/Howler/Spider/Saki...
3. South American Coati
4. Additional South American filler species - Patagoanian Mara/Southern Tamandua/Rhea species
5. One more waterfowl species - Duck/Pelican
6. Small deer species - Strongly prefer Reeves Muntjac, but Pudu would also work.
7. Hamadryas Baboon - Unlikely that we would get 2 SA monkeys in one pack, so this would at least boost the primate roster.
8. Chameleon species for exhibit
It is all over the place, but it would cover what I feel is missing the most. It is kind of hard to combine the lack of birds, monkeys and SA species into just one pack, but I tried.
I also excluded my personal wishes like Racoon Dog or Spectacled Bear, because lets face it, cats, dogs and bears, as much as we love them, are not the obvious holes in the roster.
1. Colourful South American bird - Roseatte Spoonbill/Scarlet Ibis
2. Any South American monkey - Squirrel/Howler/Spider/Saki...
3. South American Coati
4. Additional South American filler species - Patagoanian Mara/Southern Tamandua/Rhea species
5. One more waterfowl species - Duck/Pelican
6. Small deer species - Strongly prefer Reeves Muntjac, but Pudu would also work.
7. Hamadryas Baboon - Unlikely that we would get 2 SA monkeys in one pack, so this would at least boost the primate roster.
8. Chameleon species for exhibit
It is all over the place, but it would cover what I feel is missing the most. It is kind of hard to combine the lack of birds, monkeys and SA species into just one pack, but I tried.
I also excluded my personal wishes like Racoon Dog or Spectacled Bear, because lets face it, cats, dogs and bears, as much as we love them, are not the obvious holes in the roster.
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Reality isn't black and white. It isn't either "you welcome mods" or you're "hostile towards mods". There's a lot of grey area, and ignoring that gets you nowhere in life.
Frontier obviously isn't hostile towards the concept of mods, there's literally a Thememaker's Toolkit that was released at the end of Planet Coaster that does exactly the thing you described (minus the paying part, but hey, that's not that common either way).
That being said, they simply have no official support for it (right now) and that's totally fine, that's how it goes with loads of other games. Endorsing them means a whole other legal stance they have to take and brings in a lot of extra work (aka, doubling down on checking whether a bug is caused by the game or a mod and ensuring that every mod ever doesn't break which is absolutely ludicrous to begin with) and they simply chose not to do so. So to avoid confusion, they don't allow it here on the forums and that's fine.
But even without official support, the devs have literally fixed issues already that helped modding, by removing the bug that if an animal isn't available in your game but still in the trade center the game would crash, or removing the species limit that was originally 256 animals. These changes didn't have to be done really for people who don't mod, but they decided to do it anyway.
Heck, if they were really so hostile towards mods they wouldn't let the content creators they work with use mods, and yet they still do. It's completely fine, nobody has ever mentioned anything about it towards them ever.
So no. They're not hostile towards mods at all, they just condone them in stead of providing official support. And that is completely fine, as is with so many other games. No software company ever, regular or game, owes you modding. They simply don't.
The closer the end feels the more does my appreciaton grow for the roseate spoonbill as it really checks every box:
Ive been for the longest time sleeping on them, but currently it might be my most wanted not duck animal for the game, which is quite the statement
- Large Wading Bird
- Unique and striking bird that works wonderfully as a modified flamingo
- Bird for both Nord and South america that covers all tropical and suptropical biomes
- Aviary bird that would work well as a habitat animal
- Good base for mods as all of the 5 other spoonbill species are pretty neat
- Perfect both as standalone and for mixed aviarys
- doesnt feel like an unreasonable ask
- very common in zoos
Ive been for the longest time sleeping on them, but currently it might be my most wanted not duck animal for the game, which is quite the statement
Yesss this is my most wanted bird too
(well, aside from parrots and hummingbirds and lorikeets and owls....) okay it's my most wanted non-flying habitat bird (now let's not get into that again....)Yes! Tbh i'll be happy with either the ibis or the spoonbill as long as it's not the flamingo... But let's be real, we know which one we we'll get out of those three so i'm not getting my hopes up
Ever the optimist NachoBYes! Tbh i'll be happy with either the ibis or the spoonbill as long as it's not the flamingo... But let's be real, we know which one we we'll get out of those three so i'm not getting my hopes up
Ever the optimist NachoB
I've just been dissapointed to many times haha so better be realistic for now
Low expectatons often mean surprises. Even as far back as South America I remember thinking we wouldn't get anything special after what the Arctic Pack was. Then they showed up with the giant anteater and capuchin. I never would have guessed the koala for Australia either (in hindsight I wish they hadn't - it would have made a good WTE for the Oceania Pack, but like I said, that's hindsight). High expectations on the other than most often means disappointment, like all the people who continue to imagine we'll get flying aviary birds even this late into development.
I've just been dissapointed to many times haha so better be realistic for now
It is definitely getting up there for me, if I ever build my “America” zoo I imagine building a meshed in aviary with these guys next to my alligators. It would be the dream. While I would like a bird for closer to where I live in America, I’ll take whatever I can get!