Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

So I ground through that list of the 685 staff / contractors who've been on camera.

Some hot takes:

Leavers: 316 of 685 = 46%
Senior CIG/Turb with under 3yrs Tenure: 73 of 159 = 46%
Senior CIG/Turb with under 2yrs Tenure: 39 of 159 = 25%

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All CIG-Turb Leavers by Departure Year:

Need to adjust this by staffing levels per year really. More digging :/. The 2022 spike is interesting though.

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Need to do this properly by month, but the tenure year column produces this:

CIG/Turb Leavers by Tenure Year:

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I'd say that the curve of leavers per duration of tenure would be common across most businesses/large companies.

HR that I've spoken to expect peaks at around the 1, 3 and 5 year mark. Thereafter it's 'flat'.
 
I'd say that the curve of leavers per duration of tenure would be common across most businesses/large companies.

HR that I've spoken to expect peaks at around the 1, 3 and 5 year mark. Thereafter it's 'flat'.

Yep it's not super out there on the face of it.

I do wanna do a slightly deeper dive in terms of: Devs who arrived as Senior+. (VS guys who were promoted to a Senior role within CIG).

Just eyeballing the list it's notable that most of the <3y leavers were experienced arrivals. Think there might be a story there ;)
 
I've got a rather large grave pit with half a dozen decomposing whales in the bottom corner of the south field...give it a year or so and I'm sure I can get the dremel out and fashion some fancy scrimshaw ornaments to sell to the tourists. :whistle:

A few of us had a discussion in the island shop t'other day predicting that in a few hundred years, some archeologist will dig a dozen or so random holes all over the island and imagine some weird pagan blood rituals went on up here :)

We've all seen that documentary, The Wicker Man. We know what you islanders get up to!
 
Mole.

Is your desk issue due to the couriers the suppliers are using or is it a general thing with all deliveries to your location?

If you can find a courier you're confident will deliver to you from the mainland then I'd be happy to buy the desk you prefer and send it on. I'm in the South of England.

We could work out the details between us easy enough. This is a genuine offer of help, I'm not looking to make a profit!!
 
Mole.

Is your desk issue due to the couriers the suppliers are using or is it a general thing with all deliveries to your location?

If you can find a courier you're confident will deliver to you from the mainland then I'd be happy to buy the desk you prefer and send it on. I'm in the South of England.

We could work out the details between us easy enough. This is a genuine offer of help, I'm not looking to make a profit!!
There's been some major changes in the way the large parcel/light freight courier service works for the highlands and islands over the last year. The main sorting/despatch depot for the highlands and islands was previously based in Inverness, seemingly now it's been moved down to Glasgow which has had a knock on effect with the smaller, local haulage companies who are relied on to deliver stuff northward. They're stilll Inverness or island based but now have to travel to Glasgow to pick up...this adds another 3+ days to the shipping times (plus resulting fuel costs) on large parcel or haulage services heading north. The way large parcel shipping works is that if the hauliers are late in delivery, regardless of the reason, they are penalised financially.

Now we've got an unacceptable situation for those of us in the frozen north who rely on buying items online being refused delivery of larger items for that reason. It's just not worth the couriers delivering only to not get paid for it. I'm talking about all major couriers as well as all the local short haul couriers who previously took large parcels from Inverness and moved the stuff north. The major couriers will deliver to Glasgow (being the main shipping hub now) but no-one will take on deliveries of light non commercial freight, namely large parcels, going to the far north/northern or western isles due to the increased fuel costs and delivery times. Small parcel services (95% of that being Royal mail) are largely unaffected due to it being air-freight and arriving at destination via local airfields then delivered by the postie, anything larger that relies on road/ferry transport is now virtually impossible.

My PC gaming chair took over a month like I mentioned...with Amazon (the seller) bearing the increased shipping costs themselves, plus reimbursement to me for the huge delay involved after I laced up my butt kicking boots and shouted at customer services for 3 days. That episode cost them over half the cost of the chair in complimentary Amazon vouchers, which along with them bearing the extra delivery costs meant they gave the chair to me almost free...but they're not going to make a habit of it for obvious reasons.

We've got local MP's lobbying in parliament about the whole large parcel saga, not only from the end consumer standpoint but also on behalf of all the local freight hauliers who more than likely will end up in dire financial straits or being put out of business due to the main parcel shipping hub being moved south, purely to reduce operating costs and increase profit margins for the UK's southern based mainline road haulage companies... so we'll just have to wait and see what comes out of all the shouting...

But the large parcel saga is only a small part of it, this nonsense effectively means the price of everything will go up since we're reliant on almost all essential or consumer goods being shipped onto the outer islands (Orkney, Shetland and Western isles) by sea...from food on our shelves to the fuel we put in our vehicles or heat our homes with. It already costs way above UK mainland prices for those of us living up here...everything from a box of cornflakes to topping up the car at the local fuel pumps can be almost double the price.

Someone is going to end up paying for this profit mongering from the mainline hauliers in the end, it'll more than likely result in us as end consumers in the outlying fringes of the UK being once again, charged massive surcharges for delivery of large parcel items as well as increased shipping/delivery times on anything bought online or shipped to the islands. The major haulage/courier services in the UK all levied this penalty of a 'distance tax' up until a few years ago but it was thankfully outlawed due to local government intervention, so... in the meantime, or until some form of further government intervention works something out with the mainline road hauliers, it looks like we're headed back into the dark ages....being penalised for living in a place where everyone else doesn't 🤷‍♂️

Failing that, we'll be dragging the tartan frocks and claidheamh-mòrs out from the box under the bed and heading down to set fire to bits of Englandshire again :)
 
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The "I died because self destruct timer is shorter than the time it takes to climb down out of ship" sums pretty well how this mess is handled even out of bugs, lack of optimization and half baked "techs"

Oh the "everything works suspiciously great" typed in chat then killed by tram 1m from it is chef's kiss
 
The "I died because self destruct timer is shorter than the time it takes to climb down out of ship" sums pretty well how this mess is handled even out of bugs, lack of optimization and half baked "techs"

Oh the "everything works suspiciously great" typed in chat then killed by tram 1m from it is chef's kiss

Yeah I liked that one because it shows the layers of design & asset jumble. (And the inherent Chrissness that lies beneath ;))

The tech jumble examples are everywhere 😁
 
Thanks for explaining the situation Mole, it seems you certainly have been shafted, I hope things improve in the future.

All I can think of - and I'm only half joking - is get someone to buy a modular build desk on the mainland for you and then send it out in as many small packages as it will break down into!
Good luck anyway, wish there was an easy solution.
 
I do wanna do a slightly deeper dive in terms of: Devs who arrived as Senior+. (VS guys who were promoted to a Senior role within CIG).

So I took a first step on this. Again v rustic but there's a (not too surprising) difference:

Senior Hires -> Leavers_CIG-Turb only_tenure year:

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Tenure < 3yrs: 62%
Tenure < 2yrs: 36%

Non-Senior Hires -> Senior-Leavers_CIG-Turb only_tenure year:

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Tenure < 3yrs: 24%
Tenure < 2yrs:11%

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One of the more interesting little tales of the tape was:
From 2013-2014 they hired a bunch of guys with no 'Senior' experience as Leads etc. These guys often bailed quickly too.

What it's made me realise is, to really get some fun stories out of this, I'm going to have to go the whole hog :/ (IE grab the broader details for all existing employees, not just the leavers).

Means I can do a fair comparison on leaving ratios amongst Snr hires etc. (And also means that I can unearth a bunch more student -> Senior promotions. Because lord knows I found a bunch just doing this ;))

This is gonna be a distance race, not a sprint :/
 
This is all subjective, but the time-sink-ery of the new freight elevator etc sure ain't for me. Even if it worked smoothly, the multi-stages and elevator-waits are just sooo overwrought. (While simultaneously so slim on gameplay).

I like the odd bit of tractor beaming and stacking as much as the next guy. But in this process, I'd be welcoming the odd cargo boom to liven things up ;)

 
I don't think this is a troll...

But it really should be!

You can be upset as much as you wants...​

But :
  • travelling a horizon shuttle still make me wet in my pants
  • zooming at wood floor in crusader's elevator is still a enjoyement
  • filling up my phoenix with a lynx to travel to hostile bunker is something you can NOT experience elsewhere
  • even with 1 system, the freedom and experience in star citizen is unique

Name a game who allow that with better user experience and gameplay and 'ill go on it.

I know you all cry and whine because you wish more, we all do, but take a breath, loot at what we have... there is NOTHING better as an experience, even if we are all frustrated it is still not perfect.

Why not use the ship shodown to enjoy our alpha game a little ? even if we are all frustated it is not perfect ?

 
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