She's a beauty! (New ship revealed--Mandalay)

Could someone correct me, as far as I recall, Frontier haven't given the dimensions of the Mandalay, have they? Where has the image of the Mandalay over the Mamba on a landing pad come from? I don't recall that in the stream.
 
Could someone correct me, as far as I recall, Frontier haven't given the dimensions of the Mandalay, have they? Where has the image of the Mandalay over the Mamba on a landing pad come from? I don't recall that in the stream.

No, they don't. They just said that Mandalay has the same canopy/cockpit as Mamba, and the comparision photo is made based on this assumptions.
The rest is just play with graphic program to make waiting time more funny :)

As I said few times. It is nothing official, I don't even except anything based on this pictures. Just pure joy, like a kid in the sandbox with sand molds
 
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I am sure there is someones better than me with that :D
At least I have some fun today :D

When I look after a while, Mandalay should be probably bigger that here.
Something tells me that an expedition consisting of Mandalays will be organized soon after the ship appears in the game.

It'll be a very welcome sight if it happens, it's been too long since something like DW2 took place.
 
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Something tells me that an expedition consisting of Mandalays will be organized soon after the ship appears in the game.

It'll be a very welcome sight, it's been too long since DW2 took place.

There will be more :)

Extrasolar Xenobiology Organization [EXO] founded by Ryan Family Foundation is just waiting for Mandalay with the next expedition idea :) We are "in-touch" with Zorgon Peterson, and first part of Mandaalays for our explorers are confirmed soon :D
 
Could someone correct me, as far as I recall, Frontier haven't given the dimensions of the Mandalay, have they? Where has the image of the Mandalay over the Mamba on a landing pad come from? I don't recall that in the stream.
It comes from the statement that The Mandalay has the Mamba cockpit. Everyone sort of automatically assumes it's an exact copy, same size, same two seats. From that was the model scaled in relation to the Mamba. I think the original assumption is already wrong. I think it's the same style of cockpit, but it might well be smaller and only single seat. The thread has already shown that identical twin cockpits would mean that the Mandalay would be too wide for the pad.
 
(I don't think that's appropriate for this thread)
I've been thinking about Anaconda for a long time, but I've always been amused by the other thing. How it could fly at the same speed as the Corvette with such weight and even worse maneuverability. They both have the same class 7 engine, and the Corvette is twice as heavy.
Why?
You don't see the connection? Please explain
 
It comes from the statement that The Mandalay has the Mamba cockpit. Everyone sort of automatically assumes it's an exact copy, same size, same two seats. From that was the model scaled in relation to the Mamba. I think the original assumption is already wrong. I think it's the same style of cockpit, but it might well be smaller and only single seat. The thread has already shown that identical twin cockpits would mean that the Mandalay would be too wide for the pad.

Two previous ships have the same cockpit as their predecessors, so assumption is pretty fine in my opinion. And the fact that it is a lot easier to use recycled and refreshed cockpit than build another version of that cockpit and if they would to do another version why not to build new one with the glass under the legs too :)

Anyway, it is still a lot of fun.
 
(this is a departure from the topic, after all)
A body with less mass accelerates faster from the reaction thrust and brakes faster.
This would be true if all the ship characteristics just came from the specifications of the modules combined with the ship mass. However this is a game, and the ships perform like FDEV want them to perform. You can see this most clearly with shields. Compare the same size 7 shield on a Corvette, a Conda and a Clipper, very big differences there. Same with thrusters. Ships cap out at very different speeds, even with similar mass and the same thrusters.
 
Two previous ships have the same cockpit as their predecessors, so assumption is pretty fine in my opinion

Yea, but the Pythons are rather similar in size, T8 is a bit bigger than the T7, while Mandy - as pictured from the cockpit size matchup - doesnt seem to fit on the M-pad unless it has folding wings.
The only folding stuff they showed off were the engines. That doesnt mean the wings dont fold, but in this case i would expect to see them folded in the pic with the ship landed.
 
Yea, but the Pythons are rather similar in size, T8 is a bit bigger than the T7, while Mandy - as pictured from the cockpit size matchup - doesnt seem to fit on the M-pad unless it has folding wings.
The only folding stuff they showed off were the engines. That doesnt mean the wings dont fold, but in this case i would expect to see them folded in the pic with the ship landed.
T-10 has folding wings.
 
Could someone correct me, as far as I recall, Frontier haven't given the dimensions of the Mandalay, have they? Where has the image of the Mandalay over the Mamba on a landing pad come from? I don't recall that in the stream.
It was shown in a video by The Buur pit. You can watch the video HERE.
It comes from the statement that The Mandalay has the Mamba cockpit. Everyone sort of automatically assumes it's an exact copy, same size, same two seats. From that was the model scaled in relation to the Mamba. I think the original assumption is already wrong. I think it's the same style of cockpit, but it might well be smaller and only single seat. The thread has already shown that identical twin cockpits would mean that the Mandalay would be too wide for the pad.
What about the ship against a pilot figure? Such as seen in this image:
Wide ship.png
Without doing any fancy image analysis stuffs... to me it already looks like it's wider than the medium pad. I believe the wings will have to fold down, but probably they hadn't finished the animation by the time of the stream (they did call the ship "very much WIP").
 
...I am relly interested with more comparision, with more ships. For an example if cabin of Python and Python Mk II are exactly the same size. (We checked with friendst T-8 and T-7 and there cabins are the same size, exactly).

I have no way of measuring it, but in VR the cabins of Python and Python II are exactly the same. All the distances, details, levels, everything... I can do the same walk in P and P II without noticing which ship I am in.

disclaimer: not my video, I found this on Youtube

It is much easier for FDevs to simply use an existing cockpit - from the video you see how intricate the work is - than to make a new one.

Therefore it's much more likely it's the same cockpit as Mamba.
 
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To be a viable explorer, it’s gonna need a decent number of internals … yet the ship looks smaller than a Mamba which has rubbish internals … so presumably the “belly” is to make up for that?

I reckon / hope it’ll be a C6 FSD rather than magically weigh less than every other medium ship.

I think it will need a single C6 internal for a Fuel Scoop but then the remaining internals will jump down in size. Would hope for at least a further C4, though - for either a GFSD Booster or double garage - but most of the remaining internals being C2 / C1 for AMFU, repair limpet controller and a little cargo. It’s gonna be a tough balance …

Personally I’m hoping it will have some decent weapons (similar to Phantom) so I can use it as a long-range mission runner but my fear is they’ll completely shaft its weapon compliment because it’s internals will have to be decent and otherwise it would just become a better Mamba.

Likewise Thrusters … one would assume it will come with C5 but - again - that might be too close to the Mamba on speed and I’m assuming - give they’ve said it will be very agile - it will therefore be slower than the Mamba. Which is fine!
 
To be a viable explorer, it’s gonna need a decent number of internals … yet the ship looks smaller than a Mamba which has rubbish internals … so presumably the “belly” is to make up for that?

I reckon / hope it’ll be a C6 FSD rather than magically weigh less than every other medium ship.

I think it will need a single C6 internal for a Fuel Scoop but then the remaining internals will jump down in size. Would hope for at least a further C4, though - for either a GFSD Booster or double garage - but most of the remaining internals being C2 / C1 for AMFU, repair limpet controller and a little cargo. It’s gonna be a tough balance …

Personally I’m hoping it will have some decent weapons (similar to Phantom) so I can use it as a long-range mission runner but my fear is they’ll completely shaft its weapon compliment because it’s internals will have to be decent and otherwise it would just become a better Mamba.

Likewise Thrusters … one would assume it will come with C5 but - again - that might be too close to the Mamba on speed and I’m assuming - give they’ve said it will be very agile - it will therefore be slower than the Mamba. Which is fine!

For me, ideal ship would be:
Fuel Scoop - 6
FSD Booster - 5
SRV - 4
Cargo Rack - 4
Shield - 3
AFMU - 3
AFMU - 2
Repair - 1 (size 2 optional)
Research - 1 (size 1)
Detailed - 1
SA Assist - 1
 
Could someone correct me, as far as I recall, Frontier haven't given the dimensions of the Mandalay, have they? Where has the image of the Mandalay over the Mamba on a landing pad come from? I don't recall that in the stream.
Same place all the speculation that decided it would be an Imperial Explorer came from. 💩🪣😛
 
I just remembered something, isn't Zorgon Peterson infamous for producing pirate craft? Would that make the Mandalay a pirate explorer ? ☠️(unofficially of course)
 
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It comes from the statement that The Mandalay has the Mamba cockpit. Everyone sort of automatically assumes it's an exact copy, same size, same two seats. From that was the model scaled in relation to the Mamba. I think the original assumption is already wrong. I think it's the same style of cockpit, but it might well be smaller and only single seat.
I believe that FDev is reusing the exact same cockpits from the predecessor ships in order to save design work. I would imagine it's not a trivial task to create an entirely new cockpit, or even take an existing one and drastically change it eg. to make it smaller.

In the two previous new ships the cockpits have been identical to that of the corresponding predecessor ships, so it's quite likely that the trend will continue here. It also gives credibility to this that at least from the outside the Mamba and the Mandalay cockpits look exactly identical.

(That being said, there might also be some indications that they might change the cockpit somewhat after all. Primarily: This is an exploration ship, not a combat ship, and the Mamba cockpit has no visibility downwards and poor visibility to the sides. For a top-of-the-line exploration ship competing neck-and-neck with the Anaconda this kind of poor canopy visibility would be quite bad. If they just took the Mamba cockpit as-is, with zero modifications to visibility, it would be somewhat of a letdown.)
 
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