I just answered to the question where is the end of the pad...
Who said that folding nozzles are because of the size of the pad?
She's a beauty! (New ship revealed--Mandalay)
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I just answered to the question where is the end of the pad...
Who said that folding nozzles are because of the size of the pad?
I.e. with wings it won't fit, and if they fold down (long legs), it's likely the ship is larger than in the Mamba images.
In that case it could have 6 FSDs and 350 tons of weight.
Robert Maynard
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Slightly more confused now....
I jumped into my Mamba and returned to the surface on my Carrier, went into freecam mode and moved to 500m away. From the image below the Mamba measures 386px x 250px - which results in a 5px = 1m scale. Measuring the bit of the pad that moves, that suggests that a medium pad is 120m x 72m (or 80% of the size I thought it was)...
I jumped into my Mamba and returned to the surface on my Carrier, went into freecam mode and moved to 500m away. From the image below the Mamba measures 386px x 250px - which results in a 5px = 1m scale. Measuring the bit of the pad that moves, that suggests that a medium pad is 120m x 72m (or 80% of the size I thought it was)...
And even more confusing things.
But I started new thread for that.
Probably there is just a typo in dimensions and should be 92 meters long for mamba, not 72. (If you check, well-known blueprints, there is 79 meters...)
I treat new ships like more accurate with dimensions, because they are made AFTER oddysey, and Ody needs better realistic scale.
It looks like it need totally new thread. I am relly interested with more comparision, with more ships. (For an example if cabin of Python and Python Mk II are exactly the same size. (We checked with friendst T-8 and T-7 and there cabins are the same size, exactly).
I missed that post.
Dimensions from the top and ship volume are two differnt things. This big "belly" looks like Mandalay has twice more space than mamba for optionals. And if we use cargo as a volume meter. Mamba has like 66, and Phantom - 190.... so we have a lot of possibilities for an M-pad.
... ah but the COD.4 variant was maybe the most popular aircraft on carriers - it brought in the mail!
I rewatched the stream again, there are landing gear shots and to me the wings are not folded, I don't understand anything.
And why did they show us a picture of the airplane? What kind of airplane is this?
Noone said it is in-game model. Usually if developers shows pictures like that it is some kind of work in progres.
The aircraft shown was the English Electric Lightning - the cold-war era RAF interceptor - the illustration was in reference to the over and under exhausts.
The changes to thrusters have made that magic indifference to gravity much less clear cut which like the SCO drive in supercruise makes things a little more involving.This is one of the things I like about the original designs, they don't conform to 20th C expectations. Our ships already have magic thrusters that can overcome any gravity, God forbid you'd have to equip your ship right to tackle a certain planet. I think that's "unfair and inaccessible" or something.
Plus a size 3 for a shield a 2 for an FSD booster and a 1 for the DSS.
There are lots of things prettier than a Fairey Gannet so that is a low bar but it would be good if it was as competent.
Robert Maynard
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Tru dat.
Can't wait for the Mambalay ship kit.
One aspect of ED's decision to keep the low mass hull for Only the Conda has always troubled me.
Given this game like all other space exploration games, is based on fantasy tempered with real world physics and engineering.
Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc, The concept of how the Conda got its low mass hull was because of long ago mysterious tech that came up with a low mass high strength material of construction that was locked away or lost, centuries before year 33??. Per Wiki, the Conda was first introduced by Faulcon deLacy in 2856.
So my mental conflict is how can technology become stagnant for one very specific material or subject, once the tech was locked away and could not be duplicated for other ships. However, since those early days Commanders can still buy Conda's that (I would think) are being manufactured years and years after the first experimental Condas were produced.
I would think in the year 33-something, engineers and scientist could Reverse Engineer the material and make it available for other ships. Even if Faulcon deLacy was holding the secrets in a vault, others could buy one, deconstruct it and re-engineer the materials for other ships.
This long dissertation leads me to think: Maybe the Mandalay is the first ship to incorporate the same hull technology the Conda has, thus an increase in jump range over any other ship excluding the Conda.
But, I'm sure I'm way off on this so just take this as my feeble mind's fantastical wanderings.
this has been a topic for many years but with the claim this new ship has jump range similar to the Conda, I pondered the topic and others did 7 years ago:
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/89pw0d/whats_the_both_lore_and_balanceexplanation_behind/
Have a nice day
Given this game like all other space exploration games, is based on fantasy tempered with real world physics and engineering.
Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc, The concept of how the Conda got its low mass hull was because of long ago mysterious tech that came up with a low mass high strength material of construction that was locked away or lost, centuries before year 33??. Per Wiki, the Conda was first introduced by Faulcon deLacy in 2856.
So my mental conflict is how can technology become stagnant for one very specific material or subject, once the tech was locked away and could not be duplicated for other ships. However, since those early days Commanders can still buy Conda's that (I would think) are being manufactured years and years after the first experimental Condas were produced.
I would think in the year 33-something, engineers and scientist could Reverse Engineer the material and make it available for other ships. Even if Faulcon deLacy was holding the secrets in a vault, others could buy one, deconstruct it and re-engineer the materials for other ships.
This long dissertation leads me to think: Maybe the Mandalay is the first ship to incorporate the same hull technology the Conda has, thus an increase in jump range over any other ship excluding the Conda.
But, I'm sure I'm way off on this so just take this as my feeble mind's fantastical wanderings.
this has been a topic for many years but with the claim this new ship has jump range similar to the Conda, I pondered the topic and others did 7 years ago:
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/89pw0d/whats_the_both_lore_and_balanceexplanation_behind/
Have a nice day
For some reason we have only one screenshot from the stream in the main Mandalay thread, I don't understand.
I watched the stream again
1. I don't understand what it is. (green)
2. We were actually shown the dimensions of this ship. As far as I understand all the people in the Elite are the same height. Here on the screens I marked people (red)
Myself, I probably won't be able to compare it to the same screens next to Mamba.
P.S. By the way, the scale of the man coincides with the initial picture, despite the fact that some wrote that this is just a sketch.
I watched the stream again
1. I don't understand what it is. (green)
2. We were actually shown the dimensions of this ship. As far as I understand all the people in the Elite are the same height. Here on the screens I marked people (red)
P.S. By the way, the scale of the man coincides with the initial picture, despite the fact that some wrote that this is just a sketch.
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(I don't think that's appropriate for this thread)
I've been thinking about Anaconda for a long time, but I've always been amused by the other thing. How it could fly at the same speed as the Corvette with such weight and even worse maneuverability. They both have the same class 7 engine, and the Corvette is twice as heavy.
There is no explanation in fact, that's why anaconda is so weird for me. It is like meta-ship, what is never good for a game.
For some reason we have only one screenshot from the stream in the main Mandalay thread, I don't understand.
I watched the stream again
1. I don't understand what it is. (green)
2. We were actually shown the dimensions of this ship. As far as I understand all the people in the Elite are the same height. Here on the screens I marked people (red)
Myself, I probably won't be able to compare it to the same screens next to Mamba.
1. Maybe just artist vision, without anyuthing specific. These thins are almost in the same line than original mamba thrusters.
2. Yes, we have, but it is really hard to do it at isometric pictues. Look at the "leak" photo from hangar. Poeple tried to measure the ship and it looked like higher than the large hangar in the game. That's why I use almost 2d projections from the top and vector graphic program to measure.
I think that if a person is an expert with a camera, he can get up the same way with Mamba and make similar screenshots. I don't think I can do that.
I am an expert with a camera, and I assure you, you can do just visual comparision, but it would have too litte accuracy to do measurement.
And even more. I started planing edit a photo of the surface to visuelize Mandalay in it's "natural habitat"
I did it once with Beluga in the middle of the real city hahahaha
I am sure there is someones better than me with that
At least I have some fun today
When I look after a while, Mandalay should be probably bigger that here.
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