DLC18 discussion and predictions

USzoofan42

USzoofan42
About the speculated pack of baboon, tree kangaroo, secretary bird, dik dik, markhor, spurred tortoise, echidna, and sifaka I think it’s highly likely they do a duo New World and Old World packs, I don’t understand why all of you jump to these conclusions. My only issue with the pack is the lack of a European animal/ another Asian. It is sad to know that this is how Africa and Asia will end but we will see. I like the possible addition of the sifaka.
Here’s a new world pack concept:
American Black Bear
Walrus
Coati
Howler Monkey
Greater Rhea
Patagonian Mara
Mexican Spider Monkey
Burrowing Owl / Brown Pelican
 

NachoB

NachoB
We should drop the copium. There won't be old vs New World packs. The theorized roster a few posts ago is our possible final DLC. It is what it is. We are not getting any more birds than the secretary, no new world monkey and no LATAM stuff. They are clearly saving stuff for the sequel. I'm sure we'll get something else for Anniversary, probably a bear, but that's it.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
Man, after all this time I hope the dictionary is very wrong. I’ll kind of agree with what everyone else is saying, these are all awesome animals. But if we already figured out the roster and it has 1 bird, 1 baboon, no SA animals, then I’m not as excited as I could be.

I’m not gonna believe it until I see it, like the Howes insect some of these animals may be scrapped. Some of these may be in the dictionary due to being referenced in other animal zoopedias. Some may have been planned but cut. I’m not gonna believe it until I see it.

Though if what everyone has scrapped together is true, I could be more excited. Getting a tree kangaroo and another lemur instead of a NWM does feel like a slap in the face if true. Also it really wouldn’t have hurt to do a flamingo or rhea? Right now this is just what we think it could be, I won’t believe it till I see it.
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
Utahraptor104 said:
Hamadryas baboon
Secretary bird
Goodfellow tree kangaroo
Dik-dik
Markhor
Coquerel sifaka
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maybe it’s cause it has the baboon but idk seems like a pretty good roster to me.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
NachoB said:
We should drop the copium. There won't be old vs New World packs. The theorized roster a few posts ago is our possible final DLC. It is what it is. We are not getting any more birds than the secretary, no new world monkey and no LATAM stuff. They are clearly saving stuff for the sequel. I'm sure we'll get something else for Anniversary, probably a bear, but that's it.
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Man if the anniversary animal is another mammal I’ll be peeved.

I’ll believe the dictionary stuff when I see it. I’m not gonna count anything out until then,
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
SivatheriumGuy said:
I absolutely agree, loving it, but I get how people can not be too thrilled about it.
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Yeah, all in all it wouldn’t be a bad dlc. For me, as a final pack, it’s just too much of the same old stuff over, and over again. Yes it would have a ton of meta wishlist animals, but so would every other dlc. It’s also looking like it might be another pack where a vast majority of it will be mammals. So even if it’s animals I want, it isn’t what I need right now.
CharlieXGaming said:
Even though I wouldn’t mind the roster I would still say we shouldn’t base it off the dictionary as it’s just not a good enough source.
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Couldn’t agree more, I’m gonna wait and see what we get. We have all been wrong before (Barnyard)


Also, we may get an anniversary animal, so there’s that.
 

Antimony96

Antimony96
Utahraptor104 said:
So using the dictionary:
Hamadryas baboon
Secretary bird
Goodfellow tree kangaroo
Dik-dik
Markhor
Coquerel sifaka
?????
Exhibit animal

Yeah im ngl, this pack sounds really mid, only one bird is a let down, and no SA animal is an even bigger one.

The crazy part is that none of the animals are bad per se, it's just the fact that this pack is the last one that makes it sound disappointing.
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Yeah, this would do almost nothing for me. The secretary bird is great but I'd also like at least one or two more common African grounded birds--the hornbill, grey crowned crane, or guineafowl. Only one bird in general with nothing like a duck or pelican or stork, and not a single Latin American animal are also pretty bad. The sifaka is an animal that would be conceptually cool but also just a baffling choice--its locomotion would almost certainly require a new rig and it's nowhere near as highly-requested as a New World monkey or even a colobus (which could probably be a modified proboscis monkey).

That being said I'd still take the dictionary theory with a grain of salt. It could easily include animals which are planned at one point but were ultimately scrapped, and "secretary" could still easily be a red herring.
 

NachoB

NachoB
SivatheriumGuy said:
I absolutely agree, loving it, but I get how people can not be too thrilled about it.
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Is weird because they are not bad animals to add to the roster. All are animals that we have discussed and are pretty high in the metawishlist... But some choices would feel weird. Like the Sifaka. Like some other users have pointed out making a howler with prehensile tail and leap jumping Sifaka take about the same work, so why go with the Sifaka if a NWM is what most people are asking for? And once again american animals (and not just talking about SouthAmerica) are neglected when once again that has been another criticism of the later packs. Idk is just weird to me if this turns out to be true.

My only hope now is that there are other 4 animals waiting to be revealed for a 12 animal pack, because if that is not the case they either just don't like american animals / birds / monkeys or they are pursposely saving them for the sequel.

Idk the lack of charismatic carnivores like the coati, serval, Palla's cat, sea otter, bears is also weird.

After last year i just don't expect much from PZ DLCs but at least unlike the previous one these animals are of my liking and Will have some use in my zoos regardless.

Now i just hope for high quality mods for the animals i won't ever get for this iteration of the game.
 
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Iben

Iben
CharlieXGaming said:
Even though I wouldn’t mind the roster I would still say we shouldn’t base it off the dictionary as it’s just not a good enough source.
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I don't see why it wouldn't be a good enough source. It's literally an official source. 🤷‍♂️ What more does it need to be qualified as a good enough source?

Yes, I do agree that there are chances that some of the older ones that were added in January and April are maybe part of cut content that they forgot to take out. There are animals on there that could match with the packs we had, from Arid to Tropical to Oceania.

But if Markhor, Sifaka and Dik-dik appeared just now, after the lqa update which is literally a language quality check to see if nothing in terms of translations/texts that are culturally insensitive, then I think it's pretty much a given that at least those 3 have a really high chance of appearing. Especially because I'd assume they'd check if the PlanCo names they made up don't mean anything weird in a different language.

I get being cautious, but dismissing it as a source is just weird, especially given that it's a source that comes directly from Frontier.
 

Marvinb

Marvinb
The dictionary thing ofcourse isnt a a 100% gurantee, but i think it certainly is VERY good guideline for to expect. Like for some its stronger than others, echdina and spurred could still be refering to something else, but the rest of the words refering to the animals is kinda the only explaination.
Ofcourse them refering to scrapped animals is a possibility, but i dont see the value of adding something to a dictionary that has literally no purpose. Especially this long after in some cases, like the baboon and sifaka must have been scrapped well before arid and tropical came out so a good 1,5 years.
 

Iben

Iben
Marvinb said:
Ofcourse them refering to scrapped animals is a possibility, but i dont see the value of adding something to a dictionary that has literally no purpose. Especially this long after in some cases, like the baboon and sifaka must have been scrapped well before arid and tropical came out so a good 1,5 years.
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Sifaka being added now seems to at least hint that it was added after the recent LQA update so that one is new and unlikely to be scrapped content.

That being said, they've only updated it sporadically so it could be that they just had lists of animal names they came up with that they had LQA-checked and that they asked someone to update the database based on that list. It's the kind of job you usually give to an intern or to a starter, and you don't have those all year round, so they might just not have had the context for it. That could explain why some cut content got in, it wouldn't be impossible or improbable.
 
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NachoB

NachoB
CharlieXGaming said:
All I’m saying is wait til Monday it’s not the time to get disappointed over animals that may be in the pack when we’re literally 4 days away from knowing the actual contents.
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Yeah i agree but keep your expectations really low because all.of these seem to be the most likely options.

So no NWM, no more than the secretary for the birds (so no pelican), none of the bears, no cats, no coaties, no LATAM at all, no musk ox or blackbuck, no walrus. 🫠
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
NachoB said:
Yeah i agree but keep your expectations really low because all.of these seem to be the most likely options.

So no NWM, no more than the secretary for the birds (so no pelican), none of the bears, no cats, no coaties, no LATAM at all, no musk ox or blackbuck, no walrus. 🫠
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Man, I had my expectations low. This is only slightly better than what I initially thought. But slightly better isn’t ideal either.

I just hope one of these things happen:
  1. We are half right, or wrong
  2. We get more animals than expected
  3. We get a cool anniversary animal
Not a bad selection of animals for a dlc, just more of the same outside of the baboon and secretary bird
 

NachoB

NachoB
RightWhale said:
Man, I had my expectations low. This is only slightly better than what I initially thought. But slightly better isn’t ideal either.

I just hope one of these things happen:
  1. We are half right, or wrong
  2. We get more animals than expected
  3. We get a cool anniversary animal
Not a bad selection of animals for a dlc, just more of the same outside of the baboon and secretary bird
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Well if i'm being fair they are all fairly unique within their groups and compared with what we have.
 
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