DLC18 discussion and predictions

Now, about feathery friends... What are our best options for a proper bird in a Highlands DLC? Himalayan monal is very cool and has been mentioned a lot, but any pheasant would make me happy too. Any good candidate outside Asia?
I'd say there are plenty of birds that are found in mountains that could well work as habitat birds.
For waterfowl, there are the bar-headed goose and ruddy shelduck from Asia (two of the highest-flying birds in the world), the blue-winged goose which is endemic to the Ethiopian Highlands and torrent duck from the Andes (not kept in zoos, but at least one private breeder in Germany has them).
For galliformes, there are all manner of pheasants from Asia, plus a few cloud forest birds from the Americas - the Northern helmeted and blue-billed curassow and horned guan are a few examples.
For cranes - the demoiselle and black-necked are obvious Asian examples, while in Africa the wattled crane is reasonably regular in the Ethiopian Highlands.
The Andes also has three species of flamingo - the only one that is common in captivity is the Chilean flamingo. The lesser rhea is also a mountain bird that lives in the Andes and is fairly regular in captivity.

Those are a few habitat birds to be starting off with.
 
Depends on what it actually is.
If its a Zookeeper collection/grab bag theme just weirdly mountain themed its definetly the last.
If its an actual Mountain pack the chances of it not being the last are not to bad i think
Before the teaser I thought 100%. But now that it appears to be limited to a highlands-type theme, I'd say there is a possibility that we get one more to clear out the few remaining highly requested animals like Secretary Bird, Coati, etc.
I'd still say 80% chance this is the last DLC.
As of right now, I'm assuming it's a highlands pack. And if that's the case, there's still a scenario where it's the finale pack (e.g., if they work in at least two of the following: coati, tree kangaroo, secretary bird and/or spectacled bear). But the mountain coati would be an odd sub-species pick and secretary birds would technically work but have such a broad range that it would feel like a stretch. The tree kangaroo and secretary bird also have the strike against them of being in the dictionary and not removed (while Hamadryas was).

So I have no idea how that will play out. That said...

It did cross my mind that this could have literally just been a teaser shot... And we could get a few more representing other regions or biomes with other animals and keepers leading up to a trailer reveal for a zookeeper's collection. This feels wildly tinfoil hat. But hey, a person can dream, right? :ROFLMAO:

There's also a shot that this is actually an "Old World" pack. The Pallas's cat is an odd pick for the main animal in that one but... It's possible, I guess? And if that's the case then I'll assume there's one more.

Basically what I'm saying is it can go in a few different directions depending on the pack theme and roster selection as to how likely it is to be the final pack. A robust highlands pack could be the end whereas one missing some key, highly-requested species may mean there's more. A Zookeeper pack would undoubtedly be the end. An Old World pack would probably mean there's a New World one coming at some point.
 
No, you did not. You paid for the Armur Leopard. Same as you porbably paid for the Fallow Deer in the Europe Pack and we got the Red Deer later. Same as you paid for the two Lemurs and we got another Lemur later. Or for a european boar after you got the Peccary for free.

Different preferences, different species. We always got "clones" as an aniversary animal. And again: We are not entitled to ANY free animal. They do not HAVE to give you a free animal.
the different between all these animals is that the amur leopard and african leopard are literally just the same species and that for so long after conservation anyone who wanted the african leopard was bullied into accepting the amur leopard as a substitute.

It also has alot to do with oversaturation when the deer came out there was only 2 other classic deer so it was fine same with lemur and the peccary and boar are not rleated at all different continent looks and climate entirely.

The biggest problem with the leopard is after 2 years of amazing choices in general and for base game diversity we get something similar to the first year and animal that for a majority of its uses has an alternative, has another subspecies already and add very little to base game diveristy. The american black bear would of been just as easy to do is common in zoos, well known, adds to base game diversity and is just as wanted as the leopard

also I thought after 5/5 duplicate species being utter flops to the community they would just stop with adding a second subspecies.
I havent watched the stream but some people said that they announced an early anniversary, dont know if they ment the announcement or release though
anniversary will be early they didnt say when and they blamed the pack but we all know its because planet coaster releases next day
But some of us can't rely on mods, mods has never worked for me so Frontier adding the leopard was my only hope
Plus I mostly play franchise
and you just stumbled into the point modding shouldnt have be the answer to anyones issues and shouldnt be used to dismiss anyone
 
But when your doing a zookeeper collection pack it seems weird to so heavily theme it for mountains
Not saying its impossible, but the art would be a rather odd choice.

Like i when seeing the pack i immediately interpreted it as a mountain pack, three fitting animals, the big rock structure the baboons are on, the cool ish colors. Even the flags in the corner looked like those tibetan prayer flags you see in basicly any asian highland section in zoos (although after looking them up they seem to always be square rather than triangular)
There's another mound in the background, but it's pretty flat for mountains/highlands, not like the backgrounds for SEA or Eurasia. You'd at least expect a snow capped mountain in the background to fill that open sky. With plants it's hard to tell, but they look pretty Temperate to me (maybe Cork Oaks in the Background, if it's Alpine it's pretty low elevation, so there should be more above).

The other question is why it's got the Asian Lanterns and European Flagging. It is a pushed forward Anniversary, so is it the Anniversary Animal Pack?
 
One of my biggest pet peeves: lack of answers
I don’t think it was specified when this dlc is officially coming and I’m annoyed that they only shared minor info on it as opposed to full trailer
I am in the hopes that this isn’t the end but still wished for a proper answer on all animals and release date
I mean, they revealed three species, hinted at the theme, and let us know it would all eb coming out before November 5th. That's a solid bit of info and about what we would have gotten from one of our "special livestreams" back in the day. Maybe more when you factor in the African leopard, enrichment item, and new hat reveals.
 
I'd say there are plenty of birds that are found in mountains that could well work as habitat birds.
For waterfowl, there are the bar-headed goose and ruddy shelduck from Asia (two of the highest-flying birds in the world), the blue-winged goose which is endemic to the Ethiopian Highlands and torrent duck from the Andes (not kept in zoos, but at least one private breeder in Germany has them).
For galliformes, there are all manner of pheasants from Asia, plus a few cloud forest birds from the Americas - the Northern helmeted and blue-billed curassow and horned guan are a few examples.
For cranes - the demoiselle and black-necked are obvious Asian examples, while in Africa the wattled crane is reasonably regular in the Ethiopian Highlands.
The Andes also has three species of flamingo - the only one that is common in captivity is the Chilean flamingo. The lesser rhea is also a mountain bird that lives in the Andes and is fairly regular in captivity.

Those are a few habitat birds to be starting off with.
Im gonna throw the capercaillie in here aswell, something that in central europe atleast is heavily restricted and associated with the mountainous regions such as the alps, black forest and so on. They also range throughout most of central asia aswell
 
Or better yet make it a habitat animal. They are easily big enough and there really inst any valid reson to put them into the exhibit in my eyes
The only one people keep bringing up is the lack of movement but just ignore the crocodiles and koala
You're missing out on some great scenery pieces, man. The Aquatic pack scenery beats the animals by far. That flexicolor wood set is in my top 3
Bro does not believe in our Religion of faux rocks
I have gotten it simply because ill buy any pack even if I dont like it because im a completionist. I have never understood the hype for the scenery though the lights are alright but I honestly hate working with the faux rocks real rocks or plaster work so much better for me the only pieces I actively use are the fencing, the bench and the wall light.
 
Honestly the scenery in the teaser image didn’t 100% scream mountain to me. The lanterns and other stuff seems like a celebratory thing, the including of the zookeeper and enrichment items is odd too. Of course I could be wrong, cause I can see it go both ways as of right now. Likewise the hamadryas baboon doesn’t 100% feel like a mountain animal, like say a gelada.

Either way, I wouldn’t be surprised with a pack announcement sometime soon. Maybe this week or next. The dlc and update will be coming out a couple weeks later.
I'd say there are plenty of birds that are found in mountains that could well work as habitat birds.
For waterfowl, there are the bar-headed goose and ruddy shelduck from Asia (two of the highest-flying birds in the world), the blue-winged goose which is endemic to the Ethiopian Highlands and torrent duck from the Andes (not kept in zoos, but at least one private breeder in Germany has them).
For galliformes, there are all manner of pheasants from Asia, plus a few cloud forest birds from the Americas - the Northern helmeted and blue-billed curassow and horned guan are a few examples.
For cranes - the demoiselle and black-necked are obvious Asian examples, while in Africa the wattled crane is reasonably regular in the Ethiopian Highlands.
The Andes also has three species of flamingo - the only one that is common in captivity is the Chilean flamingo. The lesser rhea is also a mountain bird that lives in the Andes and is fairly regular in captivity.

Those are a few habitat birds to be starting off with.
you are so right. Please keep going off like this,

I just hope Frontier sees it like you do 😢
 
To be honest I don’t see why we think this is a highland pack.
It was all about zookeepers pack and I remember a great many list of ‘could be zoo keepers pack’ containing these animals. Why do we all of the sudden think it’s highlands?

That said if it was highlands, gelada would be the obvious choice instead of hymadryas I think. But we shall see I guess.

I like manoul, baboon and makhor and the leopard is a nice gift. But I’m happy with the roster as it is (after giving up on birds). So all that’s added now feels like a really nice surprise
 
I am cautiously pleased with a mountains/highlands pack. Looking forward to pictures of the Pallas cat, Hamadryas baboon and markhor to see what they actually look like. And looking forward to seeing what other species will be included. And a free African leopard for sure. I'll take it.

But what is more curious to me is that this doesn't feel like a final dlc. I had been thinking it would be. If they were releasing a pack with a dozen birds and an aviary/mesh building set, then that would feel like a final pack. But a mountains/highlands pack just doesn't feel like a final pack.
 
Or better yet make it a habitat animal. They are easily big enough and there really inst any valid reson to put them into the exhibit in my eyes
Wouldn't their speed be a limiting factor? I know they aren't sloth slow but... I feel like they'd move slower than your average critter. Happy to be wrong, though!
There's another mound in the background, but it's pretty flat for mountains/highlands, not like the backgrounds for SEA or Eurasia. You'd at least expect a snow capped mountain in the background to fill that open sky. With plants it's hard to tell, but they look pretty Temperate to me (maybe Cork Oaks in the Background, if it's Alpine it's pretty low elevation, so there should be more above).

The other question is why it's got the Asian Lanterns and European Flagging. It is a pushed forward Anniversary, so is it the Anniversary Animal Pack?
I'm not sure I'd read too much into that. Highlands is kind of a vague term and the image definitely looks a bit hilly. Which is close enough, I think, TBH. That said? I do wonder about the decorations... Those give off a Tibetan vibe to me which would be where the Pallas's cat and markhor are from. But they definitely don't map onto the baboon.

It just all feels a little odd to me. Haha. I would love for it to be more of a "Zookeeper" pack or a mixed bag covering different biomes but I just don't know that that's in the cards.
 
To be honest I don’t see why we think this is a highland pack.
It was all about zookeepers pack and I remember a great many list of ‘could be zoo keepers pack’ containing these animals. Why do we all of the sudden think it’s highlands?

That said if it was highlands, gelada would be the obvious choice instead of hymadryas I think. But we shall see I guess.

I like manoul, baboon and makhor and the leopard is a nice gift. But I’m happy with the roster as it is (after giving up on birds). So all that’s added now feels like a really nice surprise
Yeah but it has also to be said that going with the obvious choice isnt really frontiers strong suit, i mean look at all the weird breed choices in barnyard for example, or not doing the baboon in arid, or not doing any SA habitat animals in tropical.
And tbh i think markhor, pallas and hamadryas are actually all pretty obvious choice for a highlands pack.
 
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To be honest I don’t see why we think this is a highland pack.
It was all about zookeepers pack and I remember a great many list of ‘could be zoo keepers pack’ containing these animals. Why do we all of the sudden think it’s highlands?

That said if it was highlands, gelada would be the obvious choice instead of hymadryas I think. But we shall see I guess.
Because the three species that we currently know all reside in the highlands, and TBH, two of the three are pretty iconic for that biome. I get your point about gelada but... Hamadryas is higher-requested by quite a bit and fits the theme just as well.
 
My dream scenario

Asian Animal Pack

Pallas' Cat [Headliner]
Hamadryas' Baboon
Himalayan Monal
Golden Snub-Nosed Monkey
Markhor
Mandarin Duck
Wild Yak
Chinese/Tibetan Festival Pieces

? Pack:
Secretary Bird [Headliner]
Kirk's Dik-Dik
Coquerel's Sifaka
Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
Rhea
Short-beaked Echidna
White-faced Whistling Duck
Exhibit or pieces?
 
Now, about feathery friends... What are our best options for a proper bird in a Highlands DLC? Himalayan monal is very cool and has been mentioned a lot, but any pheasant would make me happy too. Any good candidate outside Asia?
Himalayan monal for sure but i think is unlikely, any pheasants, even a tragopan (how could would that be). I think Damoiselle crane is also an option.

Now outside of Asia i can think of the Lesser rhea. Other than that i have no idea because they rest of the birds that would be perfect for a mountain pack are flying birds: kea, condors, eagles.
 
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