DLC18 discussion and predictions

Snap, just because we're talking monkeys, here are my most wanted:
  1. Gray langur
  2. Lion-tailed macaque
  3. Golden snub-nosed monkey (grew on me)
  4. Black howler
  5. Geoffrey's spider monkey
  6. Tufted capuchin
  7. Common squirrel monkey
Have to do the same! These are my top five:
1. Geoffroy's Spider Monkey
2. Mantled Guereza
3. Black Howler
4. François's Langur
5. White-Faced Saki
 
Will die on the hill that the lowland anoa was the superior bovine choice for wetlands. Yaks seem like a Frontier move, not a huge fan of that idea myself, but understand those who want them.
The superior choice would just have been domestic water buffalo 😌, especially given anoas aren't semi-aquatic in the same way.

I love anoas though. Give me all the Sulawesi animals now
 
Really making a lot of sense now since there are five families of new world monkeys and only one for old world monkeys.
Its pretty much that in asia you got 2 groups, the generalist, semi arboreal macaques and the more specialist, leaf eating langurs.

The mainland of eurasia can be basically devided into east and west of pakistan, east of it being the reign of the rhesus macaque and west was the range of the barbery macaque until the last iceage forced them to retreat south of the mediteranean as most of central, northern and eastrn europe was coverd by glaciers.
These two geografically seperated "basic" macaques dominate the main land, with all other macaques being either endemic or mostly present on islands (japanese, celebes, crab eating, pig tailed are some examples), seperated by another physical barrier (lion tailed in the south of india below a mountain chain or thailands suspicious rhesus free zone) or are also heavily specialised for a specific for the rhesus unsuitable biome like the crabeating macaque in mangrove swamps.

Theres a similar story for the langurs, with most species being seperated by physical barriers like mointains and oceans, for example the gray langurs range neatly lining up until the mountain ranges around india, or again extreme biomes like snowy mountains of the golden snub nosed.

Its also worth mentioning that gibbons, while not monkey monkey, still fullfill the same niches that for example a spidermonkey would fill on south america, taking over the aboreal frutivore niche in SEAs tropical range forests and also here we have the same pattern of the species mostly being seperated by mountain ranges and islands.


Tdlr: Mountains and Islands isolate populations and lead to speciation, SEA is a mess of mountain ranges and isles leading to many different species of langur, macaques and gibbons
 
As far as I know, there really aren't any, most zoos have domestic buffalo. I think the reason we get water buffalo is so they can be made from African buffalo.
Wild buffallo instead of domestic 100% goes back to the fact that the lama being a domestic was one of the most criticed point people had with its pack and the first year of dlc in general, only being rivaled by the dingo and fronter took that feedback way to far without applying logic
 
Also if this turns out to be a mountain animal pack and there are no Andean bear and no tree roo i totally expect a rainforest/forest pack down the line. But for now i'm taking this pack as the very last.
If we don't get at least one of those in this pack it will be a hard pivot from Frontier's one consistent pattern that has remained unchanged since the Wetlands pack: At least one animal in the meta wishlist top five in every DLC.

The Barnyard pack doesn't count toward this for obvious reasons but... It would be truly wild to not include at least one species so highly requested in a pack.

My prediction atm! The community has been screaming for a tree kangaroo, I swear if we don't get it in Highlands I'm just going to stop hoping for it. They're the opportunity for so much diversity with this theme so I really hope we don't get an arid situation.
The worst would be a "highlands/mountains" pack that is just a different name for some sort of "mostly Asian animals" or "oops three ungulates" pack. Especially with the range of potential species from other regions and/or of other types that they could loop in.

TBH, though, ultimately I'm a bit perplexed by the theme if it's indeed highlands and it's the last pack... Just seems like it lacks some serious imagination when one would have assumed that for a finale pack they'd want to go buck wild (for the fans, as well as for themselves).
 
You know I Kanda half ass that PZ Highlands Pack Concept, I am going to try again

Pallas Cat
Hamadryas Baboon
Markhor
Rock Hyrax
Andean Bear
Domestic Yak
Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo/Secretary Bird
(Exhibit Animal) Lake Titicaca Frog/Veiled Chameleon
 
So, which zoo has water buffaloes? I'd like to see pictures and stuff.
Wild water buffalos? None
Domestic? Quite a few
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The superior choice would just have been domestic water buffalo 😌, especially given anoas aren't semi-aquatic in the same way.

I love anoas though. Give me all the Sulawesi animals now
Anoas live in swamps, semi-aquatic enough for me. I mean lechweams live in flood grasslands, so I'm pretty sure swamps are wet enough in Frontiers eyes
 
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