I mean it's easier for a modder to make a Gelada out a Hamadryas Baboon then the other way around (due to that hair)ABB is definitely the most glaring NA omission. And I blame the FBB for that... I find it hard to complain about the other species I'd want because they aren't particularly common in zoos outside of the US (river otter, porcupine) and/or they're pretty niche (burrowing owl, black-footed ferret).
Interestingly, when birds inevitably enter the chat in PZ2, I would really hope that our rep would increase because of all the raptors!
They're both gorgeous in their own way! I just figure that if we get one, the other could be effectively modded into existence. I plan on commissioning that day 1 if they're in the pack, TBH.Regardless of which sub-species we get.
Regarding the Hamadryas baboon versus the gelada, I think Hamadryas is an "okay" rep for highlands that was higher-requested, more recognizable than the gelada, and would be (theoretically) easier to craft. The fur on the gelada is pretty wild and would likely be trickier to pull off. So when you take all of that together? It can see the justification.
The tree kangaroos are both probably the exact same amount of energy. But I could see them opting for Matschie's over Goodfellow's based solely on the appearance. More copium...
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I'd argue Himalayan brown bear was the problem. It's a legit copy/paste of the grizzly model. We got two of the exact same potatoes labeled as unique. I'd ditch it for ABB any day.
Would it be a stretch to call the Himalayan Brown Bear the worst animal inclusion in the game? It's a pretty obscure subspecies, it's near-indistinguishable from the Grizzly Bear, and if it weren't for its critically endangered status I don't think Frontier would have even considered adding it, much less in the base game.
I still can't wrap my head around the Formosan Black Bear's existence.
Why couldn't it just be a generic Asiatic Black Bear? That's what everyone uses it as anyway
Pretty much everyone agrees that the HBB is one of, if not, the worst inclusion in the game
I would, I mean the Okapi and base game (non-constrictor) snakes look worse but it is much more useless, no one will ever use the HBB, ever.
The base ggame and early DLC models look so "flat", if you know what i mean. The textures look muddled together too. Really looking forward to PZ 2. Frontier has improved so much.Maybe you're right, maybe individual animals have a problem, I fired up my animal photo album and actually, they don't look bad!
I will upload a few (only saiga is the original photo) but I am inserting for comparison
I thought the reindeer had old fur and it has a very similar look to saiga (in my opinion and in this photo), which looks really good, also I take it back that the animals from earlier packages need an upgrade (certainly not all of them)
Here (for me) the worst looking is sable antelope but that is only because it is from the base.... by the way one of my favorite antelope....
But damn the longer I look at it, the more and more I like it hahh, I think I'm not the only one who has this, that I get the impression that the model is old, and the longer I look at it, it's actually “great”
Maybe on a kangaroo you can see it more, you can see that fur, that it is not so “sharpened”? I don't know how to say it, but that's what I'm talking about
I just see it that these models are old, which does not mean that they are ugly, which I have mentioned before
I definitely think the Goodfellow's are prettier, but I have to say I'm partial to the Matschie's because those are what we have in NA. I'm honestly not to picky about the species, I'm just desperate to get them. They are my favorite marsupials!I don't know, I think the Goodfellow's is actually a prettier animal in regards to its patterning and shape (its alternative name is literally the ornate tree kangaroo), while Matschie's is more overwhelmingly cute, looking like a living teddy bear.
While I have a slight preference for Goodfellow's just because they're the species in zoos here (+ I love their longer banded tails), I would still be thrilled if we got Matschie's. In terms of highland theming, both species are restricted to montane regions nowadays but the Goodfellow's reportedly once also occurred in lowland areas while the Matschie's has always been more of a highland specialist. This could make Matschie's the better pick for the theming, but gelada are also a better pick over Hamadryas baboon in the same vein and both are still mountain animals.
Who knows, maybe me listening to Huon Montane on repeat willed the Matschie's into existence!
It's not a matter of how good or bad the animal models are, the Okapi doesn't look great but it still has a strong case to be included. The HBB doesn't even have that going for it.
Porcupine is actually somewhat common over here with some 60ish holdings.ABB is definitely the most glaring NA omission. And I blame the FBB for that... I find it hard to complain about the other species I'd want because they aren't particularly common in zoos outside of the US (river otter, porcupine) and/or they're pretty niche (burrowing owl, black-footed ferret).
Interestingly, when birds inevitably enter the chat in PZ2, I would really hope that our rep would increase because of all the raptors!
They're both gorgeous in their own way! I just figure that if we get one, the other could be effectively modded into existence. I plan on commissioning that day 1 if they're in the pack, TBH.
Regarding the Hamadryas baboon versus the gelada, I think Hamadryas is an "okay" rep for highlands that was higher-requested, more recognizable than the gelada, and would be (theoretically) easier to craft. The fur on the gelada is pretty wild and would likely be trickier to pull off. So when you take all of that together? It can see the justification.
The tree kangaroos are both probably the exact same amount of energy. But I could see them opting for Matschie's over Goodfellow's based solely on the appearance. More copium...
NA porcupines and crested porcupine actually arent closely related. Just convergent evolution that cause them to be somewhat similar
I love how the Planet Zoo community immortalised this otherwise incredibly forgettable animal - and for all the wrong reasons.
The Himalayan Brown Bear is to Planet Zoo what Ea-Nasir is to history. So terrible that it will never, ever be forgotten.
The Himalayan Brown Bear is to Planet Zoo what Ea-Nasir is to history. So terrible that it will never, ever be forgotten.
Constrictors also
Evidence one:
Its just a generic snake model painted roughly like a boa constrictor
Also, another reason I would still love Matschie's despite the species not being kept in Australia anymore is because I grew up with the country's last Matschie's tree kangaroo, a female named Butala, at my local zoo! Up until her death, Adelaide Zoo had both Matschie's and Goodfellow's tree roo on display, one of the few zoos in the world to do so. I got this pick of Butala all snuggled up just a few months before she passed in 2017:
I was mainly referring to the yellow anaconda but I agreeConstrictors also
Evidence one:
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Its just a generic snake model painted roughly like a boa constrictor
Definitely team Goodfellow's, I think its prettier and is the one I see in zoos, although I would be fine with the Matschie's
I would also like to add that we are still at the point where the vote ratio of animals has not plateaued the ones at the top are there by a significant amount so the top animals are at the top for a reason until we get to a point where the drop between top 10 top 20 and top 50 is almost non existent then they are still significant additions.
its a region thing europe and have the goodfellows as the most prominent tree kangaroo species compared to the americas where that is the matschieThe point about the tree kangaroo name is pretty compelling. And TBH, I've never understood why there was so much demand for the Goodfellow over the Matschie...
From an aesthetic perspective, the Matschie's would look better in-game and it has the same conservation value. As for the current DLC, if we are in fact looking at a highlands/mountain theme, the Matschie's also seems to be more closely linked to that biome (relatively speaking, anyway).
Great. Back to feeling optimistic again... I want to get off this ride. It's making me dizzy.
Yeah the anaconda and eastern brown are okayish, they just dont have the same quality texture as the gila monster for example.
But the rest of them is just straight up horrible, like the rattlesnake is even missing the trademarked stripe tail, that like not giving the red panda or lemur a striped tail.
Really shows how much attention and love was poured into making the snakes
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Makes me wish there were mods that revamped the exhibit animals, but they tend to be forgotten or ignored or dislikedConstrictors also
Evidence one:
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Its just a generic snake model painted roughly like a boa constrictor
I wonder if the exhibit animal prop pieces better represent the snakes. If so, yippee!! As those would be my preferred exhibit choicesMakes me wish there were mods that revamped the exhibit animals, but they tend to be forgotten or ignored or disliked
Yeah.Makes me wish there were mods that revamped the exhibit animals, but they tend to be forgotten or ignored or disliked
And the most bizzare thing is that this could have been avoided pretty easily, just choose different species.
Like just do cornsnake, milk snake and and asian rat snake, those could also easily share the same model. But they chose rattlesnake, puff and death adder who all have a very unsnake like build being super stocky and thick.
Idk its so bizzare to me, why would you do a pretty basic stereotypical snake model and just put species on it that are as far from that body shape as possible