DLC18 discussion and predictions

RightWhale

RightWhale
AndyZoos said:
I'm not really sure what to make of it. But I'm confident that they're giving the keeper huts an aesthetic update (maybe more?) as part of this next update. Because those mats just didn't pop in there by mistake. Haha. And the table didn't get elongated by accident. After work today I'm going to look at it all a bit closer to see if I can see anything else.

It'd be cool if we got all of the facility pieces as individual props though this doesn't necessarily point to that...
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Yeah who knows, could be a face lift as far as we know.

I’ll admit, updates to the staff facilities aren’t super high on my wishlist. But 5 years and free updates of support I can’t complain about.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
Birb（｡･ө･｡） said:
Cool to see that this community is (mostly? Hopefully?) against AI art. Saw some certain content creators starting to promote it and it just rubbed me the wrong way.

Even outside of the art theft aspect of it, let’s not forget that generative AI‘s environmental impact is notoriously terrible, which, y’know, is kind of against the message of a game like this lol.
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I think AI is stupid, and personally I have no desire to engage with media not made by human hands. There is a lot of books/ tv shows/ movies/ video games I think are bad. At the end of the day though, they were made by people with creativity. Which is more than I can say for something made by AI.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Birb（｡･ө･｡） said:
Cool to see that this community is (mostly? Hopefully?) against AI art. Saw some certain content creators starting to promote it and it just rubbed me the wrong way.

Even outside of the art theft aspect of it, let’s not forget that generative AI‘s environmental impact is notoriously terrible, which, y’know, is kind of against the message of a game like this lol.
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I dunno much about it. I'm not against it, but I'm not rooting for it either. I didn't know about the environmental impacts.
I use AI, but only for personal projects and to good off, never for companies or monetary reasons; I dunno all the reasoning, but to me buying an AI piece of art from so don't is weird. You aren't buying their project
 
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Marvinb

Marvinb
Birb（｡･ө･｡） said:
Cool to see that this community is (mostly? Hopefully?) against AI art. Saw some certain content creators starting to promote it and it just rubbed me the wrong way.

Even outside of the art theft aspect of it, let’s not forget that generative AI‘s environmental impact is notoriously terrible, which, y’know, is kind of against the message of a game like this lol.
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Yeah i remeber there was a huge storm when Lego did it.
Some promotion post with something about endless creativity, and then they used ai to make the art for it 🙄
 

Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
Birb（｡･ө･｡） said:
Cool to see that this community is (mostly? Hopefully?) against AI art. Saw some certain content creators starting to promote it and it just rubbed me the wrong way.

Even outside of the art theft aspect of it, let’s not forget that generative AI‘s environmental impact is notoriously terrible, which, y’know, is kind of against the message of a game like this lol.
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Feel free to dm me which content creators you are talking about so I can NOT support them.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
CharlieXGaming said:
I’m glad that they addressed national zookeeper day but I feel like it wasn’t planned lol It’s like we had to force them to make a post about it lol
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The CM about to eat dinner and realized they were about to fumble the bag:
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Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
At this point I take it they are going to torment us to to the maximum amount of time
Yes we will have answers before the end of the month but this is getting ridiculous
 

Birb（｡･ө･｡）

Birb（｡･ө･｡）
NachoB said:
I'm curious. How so?
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The issue is mainly in regards to carbon footprint and climate change. As far as I'm aware, it's thankfully getting significantly better (EDIT - arguably it hasn't, the training process still uses way too much energy across the board even if the consumer's consumption has improved) - especially in regards to imaging - and varies from company to company, but most generative AI training technology, especially those that are currently widely available - ChatGPT, (though focused on text is still generative), is arguably the most infamous example - uses a lot of energy thanks to the intense computing power required. This is mainly in regards to training the system rather than individual consumer use.

I'm certainly not an expert on this as my stance on AI relates more to art than to scientific and computer jargon I don't fully understand, but here's an article that explains it leagues better than I could!

Also for those who don't understand the issue of AI in the art world, in a briefly explained nutshell AI "art" doesn't make its own images from scratch - it is trained off of existing images - often stolen by AI companies from artists who did not give permission - which are fed into a machine to be stitched together into something "new".
 
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The_Riot22

The_Riot22
AndyZoos said:
But then again, from Frontier's perspective, does it really matter? Some folks are annoyed. But they're all going to buy the DLC anyway. And the second the news does drop all will be forgiven. So I can see how they may not be so incentivized regardless of how odd it seems.
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I guess I'm more thinking big picture. Of course the vast majority of us are still gonna get the DLC - I for sure am with the Markhor being my most wanted animal still left.
Frontier has earned a reputation of being poor communicators with their fanbase. That reputation carries over to the rest of their games, whether it's earned or not with those games. And sure, there isn't much competition in the simulation zoo game market now, but who's to say there won't be in the future? A lot of people may be frustrated enough with Frontier's past poor communication with PZ and give any future competition the edge.
 

AndyZoos

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RightWhale said:
Yeah who knows, could be a face lift as far as we know.

I’ll admit, updates to the staff facilities aren’t super high on my wishlist. But 5 years and free updates of support I can’t complain about.
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I agree. An update to the interior of the facilities is very low on the priority list... But my initial thought is that it's such an odd, random update to make that it almost has to tie to something else. I can't imagine what that would be, though, TBH.

Maybe they really did just decide to change up the way they looked. But if that's the case it's a weird way to spend their resources. Haha.

CharlieXGaming said:
I’m glad that they addressed national zookeeper day but I feel like it wasn’t planned lol It’s like we had to force them to make a post about it lol
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TBH, I think there may have been something else going on. There was a PC2 tweet at the very start of the day and then another PC2 and that Planet Zoo tweet in rapid succession. The SteamDB was inactive mostly all day today but was updated again right around the time of the tweets.

I'm assuming there was something else going on rather than there being some sort of "flub" on social media posting for the day. Because if they forgot PZ then they also forgot that second PC2 tweet.

But what's fun about that screenshot is that it shows they're updating the look of the keeper hut interior...
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
AndyZoos said:
TBH, I think there may have been something else going on. There was a PC2 tweet at the very start of the day and then another PC2 and that Planet Zoo tweet in rapid succession. The SteamDB was inactive mostly all day today but was updated again right around the time of the tweets.

I'm assuming there was something else going on rather than there being some sort of "flub" on social media posting for the day. Because if they forgot PZ then they also forgot that second PC2 tweet.

But what's fun about that screenshot is that it shows they're updating the look of the keeper hut interior...
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Yeah, because wasn't the Steam DB or whatever it's called updated once today? Maybe they had some deadlines to reach and were running outta time or perhaps an emergency meeting or something. These things happen, after all
 
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