Sometimes you get doubles.
Also, four pirates all named Greg will be trying to steal from you.
Also, four pirates all named Greg will be trying to steal from you.
Pirates spawning in 100% of time when you drop into a planet or ring is extremely unrealistic and breaks my sense of immersion.
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Operating out of Explorer's Anchorage probably, not even 4 ly away.
And if you want immersion - my explanation is that at least one of the traffic controllers in each station is supplementing their income with a cut (if they're stupid) or a flat rate from the pirates they are supplying with my flight plan data.
I have believed that there is one controller on each shift selling data to the pirates since not long after I joined.
You can travel interstellar in supercruise if you really want to, it just takes (almost) forever and when you get to the location of the destination star system, the game hasn't generated it yet (because hyperspace is the "loading screen"). So it's much like that; the system you jumped from remains spawned ...somewhere (your instruments will know), but you're so deep in interstellar space that it's more or less just another speck in the starscape. There's nothing nearby
There should definitely not be random NPCs milling about in the empty voids between stars, let alone at such massively high population density that it only takes a few km of travel to trip over some.
I guess if/when it happens again, I'll use instruments rather than mk1-eyeballs to find out how deep that deep space is. Maybe it's not always very deep?
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I did read the post, and have reread it. To me it seems that you are making more of the problem than it is.
As far as immersion goes, we are mostly sat in from of a PC with a KB and mouse. If the wife/child/dog/cat/phone distract us, that is also breaking the immersion.
Feel free to treat my post as I have suggested you treat the pirates. We just see things differently. No biggee.
Most time I don't even know where I'm going before I get there. We need these psykers on the frontline instead of the ATC office.
funny thing, had the opposite experience lately. I've been mining the hell out of a hotspot for merits in the bubble, spent countless hours there and never met a single pirate! I was surprised, after initially bringing SLF, and guns for defense but pirates did NOT show up, AT ALL! so eventually I removed the SLF bay and guns, and just mined the heck out of it, never having encountered a single pirate ships. There were power ships but they were harmless and didn't attack, and I took breaks by exiting and reloading the same mining session, and still no pirates. Then I went to another system in the bubble and core mined another hotspot or two with the same results - no pirates! My guess is, in certain conditions pirates do NOT spawn at all, whether it's due to BGS or something else, so your claim about 100% pirate spawn is not supported by evidence.
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It's rather silly. I find it necessary to say to myself that they must have detected me in supercruise and dropped into the ring at the same time as me. (But they weren't there in supercruise...)
They're also rather irrelevant. As long as you turn towards them and let them scan you while you only have limpets aboard, they just go away. Which isn't how real pirates ought to behave. How about, "Arrr, limpets aboard! Mine me ten tons and be quick about it if you want to live!"?
I suspect that no pirates will spawn if the system has a power presence.
they do spawn in res sites and in the power system at large but not in the rings at a long enough distance from nearest res site for some reason
Yeah, instead of pirates, it's PP ships that spawned when I dropped in a ring (away from RES).they do spawn in res sites and in the power system at large but not in the rings at a long enough distance from nearest res site for some reason
Not that I'm complaining
I had this happen once... The NPC went from belligerent to coward in a few short seconds... Made me laugh!
"The rumours were right.. "
I agree that the spawning conditions for NPCs can definitely seem a bit silly. I tried doing some mining once when I was all the way out in the Colonia region, I had traipsed hundreds of LY away from inhabited space in my Keelback and was still having pirates spawn in on me when I tried to mine in peace. This was before I learned the necessary tricks to evade NPCs and I was also convinced that pirates would keep spawning in to hassle me, so I went back to hauling in order to earn the money for my T-10.
While I would appreciate a deeper and more thoughtful approach to NPC spawning, there is stuff that is actually broken that I would like to see fixed first.
I agree that the spawning conditions for NPCs can definitely seem a bit silly. I tried doing some mining once when I was all the way out in the Colonia region, I had traipsed hundreds of LY away from inhabited space in my Keelback and was still having pirates spawn in on me when I tried to mine in peace. This was before I learned the necessary tricks to evade NPCs and I was also convinced that pirates would keep spawning in to hassle me, so I went back to hauling in order to earn the money for my T-10.
While I would appreciate a deeper and more thoughtful approach to NPC spawning, there is stuff that is actually broken that I would like to see fixed first.
Actually I don't think it's that unrealistic. While it might not technically be literally happening in the actual game servers, from an in-universe lorewise point of view you could imagine those pirates following you furtively, looking for an opportunity to drop on you. As long as you are in an inhabited system (even if that planet itself isn't inhabited), or came from a nearby inhabited system, it's not completely unrealistic that pirates were monitoring ship traffic and decided to follow you in order to see what you are going to do and whether they could jump on you, given the opportunity. You might not see them in your radar when they are following you, but that's just because they run cold and thus your radar doesn't pick them up, especially not from that distance.
Are you sure about this? I have never encountered an NPC that far from the closest inhabited system. 100-200 Ly maybe, but no more than that, in my experience and recollection. Are you sure you aren't misremembering or misjudging the distance to the closest inhabited system?
That being said... well, even if you are remembering correctly, maybe those were really persistent pirates, set on following you to the end of the world...
Why do we think NPCs fly the same ships as humans? At least on my radar the ships of NPCs and humans are different, so they are made differently.
During the battle with the Titans, I analyzed NPC ships a lot and almost none of them had a pulse neutralizer. So the NPC ships have different technology than the human ships.
It's extremely silly because all the effort they are going to do that cat & mouse rubbish they could just drop in and mine the same roids. Make even more money, zero risk. Piracy makes zero sense in this universe.
