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The Quest To Find Raxxla
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hehe , or maybe it's just THIS--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...y-initiative-exploration.633408/post-10546368 ...because of this--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...l-cartographics-lockdown.633672/post-10546191 ...?
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Different people here have been pursuing different versions of this story for a long time. If you browse through this thread, you'll find both, sometimes by the same people (heck I tried both things myself). The toast is so vague that it could be anything. Nostradamus was more specific.
Honestly, the toast is vague enough that even when Raxxla is found, and happens to be a location, and we go there, I'm sure someone will find a way to fit the toast to that location somehow. Maybe we should hold a contest: someone pick 10 random locations in the galaxy, and the rest of us comes up with "the toast" explanations fitting them. I bet we can do that.
Btw, part of the codex entry is talk about spiraling stars. Spiraling stars generally refers to stars that spiral into each other and collide, releasing gravitational waves.
This article from 2021 specifically used neutron stars (this basically doesn't exist outside of the context of black holes and neutron stars) - nothing else is massive enough for us to detect the resulting gravitational waves.
This article from 2021 specifically used neutron stars (this basically doesn't exist outside of the context of black holes and neutron stars) - nothing else is massive enough for us to detect the resulting gravitational waves.
Distant, spiralling stars give clues to the forces that bind sub-atomic particles
Space scientists have found a new way to probe the internal structure of neutron stars, giving clues about the makeup of matter at an atomic level.
www.sciencedaily.com
I think the spiraling stars part references our own spiral galaxy, or perhaps Andromeda, which is also a spiral galaxy.Btw, part of the codex entry is talk about spiraling stars. Spiraling stars generally refers to stars that spiral into each other and collide, releasing gravitational waves.
This article from 2021 specifically used neutron stars (this basically doesn't exist outside of the context of black holes and neutron stars) - nothing else is massive enough for us to detect the resulting gravitational waves.
Distant, spiralling stars give clues to the forces that bind sub-atomic particles
Space scientists have found a new way to probe the internal structure of neutron stars, giving clues about the makeup of matter at an atomic level.www.sciencedaily.com
Could also mean the Triangulum Galaxy which is also visible in the skybox near Andromeda.
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True, but Andromeda is the biggest of them, so would make sense if it's talking about an actual galaxy on the night sky it means Andromeda.
Right, but none of that is reachable from where we are, and out of all of those interpretations, neutron stars exist and can actually be "spiraling". The only other "spiraling stars" we can reach in the game are basically all of the Milky Way ones but I'm not sure how that would help anyone.
Yeah, that answer was for the mother of galaxies being Andromeda. For the spiraling part could also be a reference to Andromeda as a spiral galaxy, but could also be a reference to neutron stars, sure.
What if its a pulsar or a neutron star spiraling in an infinity pattern or a Ouroboros pattern. Does any of them in game do that?
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Certain neutron stars have very clear spiraling beams (microwave ones? I forget which ones exactly exactly - you can see that in game clearly).
On a somewhat unrelated note, I've always wondered if the icon from the Raxxla codex entry was some sort of "X marks the spot" with the bright spots on the map.
There are 4 very highlighted locations there, but the bright spots cover literally 100s of LYs and 1000s of star systems.
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Correction: - Interesting. OUPAIVVY VS-R C18-0 is one of the glowing spots on that picture. I went to it once on xbox. I couldn't explore the region cause the console keeped crashing there. Got annoying so I gaveup at the time. If you angle the galatic map at that spot you can match the image.
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Using the PP 2.0 galactic map to track my progress (bookmarked systems) on checking out unoccupied (ie. zero population) systems within 30ly (whitish sphere) around the Mahon stronghold of Opala. So far, very uneventful and none have come even close to any of the systems criteria for finding the Dark Wheel orbital station.
Opala is just 44.49ly from Sol, I don't expect any surprises. The general area should be a good test of the tools I'll be setting up for the wider search.
Opala is just 44.49ly from Sol, I don't expect any surprises. The general area should be a good test of the tools I'll be setting up for the wider search.
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But apparently without progress. At least, without easily definable progress. That's one of those critiera for choosing one explanation rather than another: which is the more productive one. (Ockham's Razor has 'the simpler one'.)
Have there been any indications of progress in this case? If there have, that may be the area that could need revisiting. If not, ..., well, if a lot of presumably intelligent people pursue a problem seriously for a long time and there are no signs of progress, they are either looking in the wrong spot or in the wrong way, or there actually is nothing to 'solve'.
Meh, progress is for those who don't want to actually search. This is old-school search quest. You find Raxxla or you don't. That's all progress you get. It's like a real treasure hunt. Do you get progress towards some chest of gold? Generally, no. You find it, or you don't.
Not quite. You can also find TDW ... which would likely be progress on the way to Raxxla. Or something else, accidentally. Or you find additional a clue with a finite set of possibilities, or think of something that should also have been considered ... and you manage to tick them all off. All. That's progress. Not just a few and you lose heart and give up.
I was thinking of the Ventris Linear B crack in 1952. All researchers who went by the Cypriot syllabaries, and applied those to the Linear B symbols in the hope the result might contain a recognizable word failed. Some progress in term of clay tables checked. But no obvious 'we've done all, we don't need to test more', as there were new finds coming. (I think at least a few of them could have concluded: no progress, wrong approach.) Alice Kober looked at structural evidence, and could point to indications of enclitics, and also declination (several words that had mostly the same signs, but differed in the last.) That would probably have lead further, but Ventris intervened.. Ventris used the latter and guessed that one set of such 'words' were names of cities, and extracted a number of syllables that confirmed some earlier guesses of his. And they could be reapplied to get fully or partial new words, which then spawned new syllables, and so round and round. That 'if this, then that-and-that-and-that' is progress. (Ventris first broke off, because he didn't believe it, and thought it was false progress that was sure to fail in the next generation. That's deliberate lack of progress. Until some mental block gave way a few weeks later, and he decided that it was actually Greek he was dealing with, not Etruscan. And then big-bang.
The progress I was thinking of is either applying a hypothesis to a suspected clue, and follow it at least to a reasonably well-defined end. Like the Drakkster thing: there are only so many systems in some search space that fit the description. Formulate the tests necessary for each case, revise if necessary, and test. Testing all is progress, regardless of Raxxla was found or not. If nothing is found, the hypothesis could be extended. If done right, that hypothesis / assumption need not be tested again.
I have the impression that most (not all) hypotheses so far have been unbounded. In that situation, progress is out of question, until its found. But with one such hypothesis on top of another on top of a third, progress is pushed farther and farther away. If 1st hypothesis done and dusted, don't need to do that one again, and collects intermediary results that can be used for later testing). That would be progress in the search.
Raxxla Potato Hunt is based on a bounded hypothsis: signals within a predetermined search space searched using a particular methodology. (It's not complete: there are things not checked that probably should be, but the results from the current phase can be reused later.)
So: are hypotheses badly formulated, or formulated to big?
Idea: List all hypotheses about the TDW Toast (full or partial), and see if a limited search strategy can be formulated (which would be progress), or if 'random walk' is still supposed to do the job. Especially, see if search strategy is not needed (this would be the 'FDev holds the key, and will show it when they decide' type of hypothesis).
This is something I looked into a while back. I suspect the glowy spots are blurred stars from a screenshot within the GalMap -- hence the visible grid lines -- and another view of the galaxy with sector lines are superimposed. An insanely gifted individual might be able to triangulate which grouping of stars they are in the galaxy
As for the sectors, this is what the view is showing - colour shifted and aligned more "upright" to galactic north:
The theory of glowing spots as "pointers" means bubble-sized search areas.
Not related to any pattern, but all pulsars are just neutron stars. The only thing that separates them from other neutron stars is that their energy beams hit earth periodically.
If were are in a different system, some other neutron stars would be the pulsars.
Finding TDW wold be progress. Finding Raxxla without finding TDW first, is probably practically impossible.
My interpretation of the toast is that all the lines describe Raxxla. There is no path. The jewel, the whisper, the siren and the grief, woe and yearning all describe the same thing.
I don't know if the descriptions are just poetic non-sense or if they actually describe Raxxla in a useful way.
If the toast contains something useful, I think the location has to match all the lines. Singling out one line, is probably not fruitful.