Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Mission Refactor Review...

  • Gameplay
- Enabled Courier Missions in Pyro System


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- Disabled Courier Missions for 4.0.2


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I have to like your posts TNT, as you and Rootsrat show, people can get StarCitizent to work, and in a pretty way, and with some ‘unique’ features, but Rootsrat at least caveats that he found it boring and bug-ridden. Do you feel it’s been worth the almost billion dollars and 12 years to get here?
And do you think it’s possible to deliver the dream that CR has promised?
What do you make of all the criticism here?
Thanks Wotthe!

I'd say I feel it's worth a lot considering I've been enjoying it the most than other games.
I don't felt it's hard to get at all. I guess kinda like Dark Souls, you need to go into it with the right mindset (learning involves trial & error).

As for the time or money it's taking it's not something I care about. I enjoy what's available, and since there's always new stuff being release it makes it easy.

In an effort to make it relatable.

Q: If Frontier released a DLC with ship interiors today would you spend energy complaining about how long it took or would you be playing it?

Imagine you're out in a planet just left your DBS doing a mission in a planetary outpost and you look up and there's a Conda floating above and you can just fly your ship and land inside it and then fly the Conda.
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Picking another post from Elite here:

Don't understand what people are complaining about, server meshing working well!

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6mduSKACYs

Compare that video to a SC flying one and you can see the differences in scale and entertaining.

Gamers who pretends to care about how much it took or costed are just using a game to roleplay as paladin of video-games. That's their jist, their hobby I guess.

Nobody here cared about Frontier finances before or after Odyssey

As for why players keeping with support of Star Citizen! Can you blame them? When there's nothing close to providing close to it's gameplay? Let's face it even if you don't want to. Despite all Bugs and Warts it still is able to provide moments of great gaming experience.

Personally, I enjoy it's graphics / art direction way more than in NMS, SE, Starfield, Elite etc. SC is open universe full PVPVE free 4 all with a hundred + ships to experience with no grind required. There's quite the variety of planets and moons and are all landable. Also, most importantly. The freedom of gameplay options along with the strong social aspect that drives uncertainty keeps me coming back and many others alike.

When you're having fun playing games you won't feel the need to waste time hating on them as it's a waste of gaming time.

As for the criticism I think it's just cope mechanism. Some people feel that affiliation to Elite more than reason, so anything they feel that might jeopardize it, is the enemy to put down. So they prefer to pretend there's no progress, just bugs.

It's why you had people saying that the tech they are developing would never be possible yet they keep delivering.

Yet, now. We're playing in 30 FPS servers with 600 players while before It was in 5-10 FPS servers with 50 people.

Recently happened with Pyro and Server Meshing. Some here haven't come about stating they were wrong unsurprisingly.

So yeah, might be a bit controversial around here but Star Citizen in it's buggy alpha stage (it's worst) is still able to provide amazing gaming moments that make it worth coming back. That make all other similar games redundant. And yes. that includes Elite. Which funnily enough is perfectly is showcased in this thread activity.
 
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As for Dany boy and it's HeadHunters grind we're proud to announce we've reached the 3Million credits mark so it's time to go back to Stanton System and buy a new ship or 2.

It was an honour serving HH's.
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We explored and assassinated:
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Stole Ships:
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Stole components:
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Explored their inwards and out:
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Made some friends and Drank some juice:
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And, above all, had a lot of fun doing it.
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Gamers who pretends to care about how much it took or costed is just using a game to roleplay as paladin of video-games.

Hard disagree mate.

A lot of us don't pretend to care about stuff like this:

Source: https://youtu.be/kln9ie77DxI?si=QhDaOO6DetPJPmlQ


We do care about it. We think the monetisation, development and marketing trifecta which CIG have arrived at lead to it, are essentially unique in their execution... And that in combination they stink.

You would struggle mightily to find comparable tales to the above about any other gaming project, at the scale which CIG has generated them. And that's always the thing that puts CIG into exceptional categories. The scale of the delays. The scale of money taken to fund that process. Etc etc.

And we do our own little thing about it. Point and laugh. Enjoy that ride ;)

It's fine for you to enjoy the game. It's fine for you to be a '$45 freerider', and not care about the funds it's sucked out of others to bring you the alpha to date.

But it ain't fine for you to wave away the game's genuine issues in the above three areas.

Because then you're on very shaky ground indeed ;)

 
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I get that coming from someone that though Server Meshing and Pyro wouldn't be a thing. If You have issues with a game You have issues with a game.
I just don't think it's as hobby worthy as much as you others would like to think It's.And it will only a matter of time you'll get to understand it, just like all the others before who succumbed to that fixation until they moved on to living their life as usual like nothing happened.
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Guess we'll see how far it will go...
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I get that coming from someone that though Server Meshing and Pyro wouldn't be a thing. If You have issues with a game You have issues with a game.
I just don't think it's as hobby worthy as much as you others would like to think It's.And it will only a matter of time you'll get to understand it, just like all the others before that succumbed to the fixation before moving on to living their life as usual . ;)

I've never said Pyro wouldn't make it into the game friendo. I've just laughed at the epic delays involved in its delivery, and noted what those delays implied. Notably regarding CIG's future aspirations. (100 Solar Systems at launch etc, recently scrubbed from 1.0).

My own beliefs on 'Server Meshing' are that they'll never get the miracle '1000s of players in one location' variants working at those scales. And that they'll force the alpha through the ringer by even shooting for that moon. Which they're currently doing a good job of proving me right about ;)

FWIW, I also don't play any 'competitor' to SC, and as such don't criticise it on any tribal basis.

It could just be friend that if you're wrong this regularly about things, you'll carry on being wrong ¯\(ツ)/¯

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EDIT: Oh and your edited 'spoiler' of quotes doesn't make your case at all bud. It makes mine. The wrongness continues ;)

(Would be amazing if you could actually spoiler the endless asset splurges you go on instead. That'd be some form of progress...)
 
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Imagine believing that "server meshing is actually a thing" when it is so broken in fact that even CIG has had to acknowledge it publicly in a lengthy forum post, arrange a 3 hour debrief mea culpa with the CTO, and cancel a free fly for the first time ever in the history of SC.

I would say it´s still far from being a thing. And indeed severely boned 🤷‍♂️
 
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Q: If Frontier released a DLC with ship interiors today would you spend energy complaining about how long it took or would you be playing it?
(I don't care about ship interiors so I wouldn't ever complain about not getting them)
A better comparison would be if ED had never released in 2014 when promised, also promised another game, promised the game again in 2016, and now in 2025 still hadn't come out. Do you realise it's 2025? Amazing.

Yeah. I'd be complaining. No, I wouldn't be playing a broken demo of it instead.


Imagine you're out in a planet just left your DBS doing a mission in a planetary outpost and you look up and there's a Conda floating above and you can just fly your ship and land inside it and then fly the Conda.
I don't want their Conda. Hell I don't want my own Conda.


Nobody here cared about Frontier finances before or after Odyssey
Ha ha ha. Are you new here? (I know you're not)

As for why players keeping with support of Star Citizen! Can you blame them? When there's nothing close to providing close to it's gameplay? Let's face it even if you don't want to. Despite all Bugs and Warts it still is able to provide moments of great gaming experience.
Enjoy. Each to their own.


As for the criticism I think it's just cope mechanism. Some people feel that affiliation to Elite more than reason, so anything they feel that might jeopardize it, is the enemy to put down. So they prefer to pretend there's no progress, just bugs.
This is a comedy thread for me, for a comedy game project thing. It's funny.
The idea that SC "might jeopardize" ED is funny, even funnier that you think that's why people post about and laugh at SC bugs.

Hint: it's mostly because of the bugs.

For me personally, this is exactly - and I mean exactly - what Chris Roberts is known for, and what we should expect from Chris. A management disaster, a coding shambles, and a project that could theoretically be saved if someone managed to push him out the way and apply some competence. I don't think it will happen this time. Maybe you don't know who Chris Roberts is 🤷‍♂️


It's why you had people saying that the tech they are developing would never be possible yet they keep delivering.
Delivering doing a hell of lot of heavy lifting there, almost Geoff Capes level lifting.

Yet, now. We're playing in 30 FPS servers with 600 players while before It was in 5-10 FPS servers with 50 people.
Goodness gracious me.

Recently happened with Pyro and Server Meshing. Some here haven't come about stating they were wrong unsurprisingly.
What were people wrong about?

So yeah, might be a bit controversial around here but Star Citizen in it's buggy alpha stage (it's worst) is still able to provide amazing gaming moments that make it worth coming back. That make all other similar games redundant. And yes. that includes Elite. Which funnily enough is perfectly is showcased in this thread activity.
Star Citizen?
Makes. All. Other. Similar. Games. Redundant.
That's devotion.
 
Imagine believing that "server meshing is actually a thing" when it is so broken in fact that even CIG has had to acknowledge it publicly in a lengthy forum post, arrange a debrief mea culpa with the CTO, and cancel a free fly for the first time ever in the history of SC.

I would say it´s still far from being a thing. And indeed severely boned 🤷‍♂️
Exactly, server meshing certainly IS boned. It can be in the game and still boned.
 
Thanks Wotthe!

I'd say I feel it's worth a lot considering I've been enjoying it the most than other games.
I don't felt it's hard to get at all. I guess kinda like Dark Souls, you need to go into it with the right mindset (learning involves trial & error).

As for the time or money it's taking it's not something I care about. I enjoy what's available, and since there's always new stuff being release it makes it easy.

In an effort to make it relatable.

Q: If Frontier released a DLC with ship interiors today would you spend energy complaining about how long it took or would you be playing it?

Imagine you're out in a planet just left your DBS doing a mission in a planetary outpost and you look up and there's a Conda floating above and you can just fly your ship and land inside it and then fly the Conda.
F5u6RfX.jpeg

Picking another post from Elite here:



Compare that video to a SC flying one and you can see the differences in scale and entertaining.

Gamers who pretends to care about how much it took or costed are just using a game to roleplay as paladin of video-games. That's their jist, their hobby I guess.

Nobody here cared about Frontier finances before or after Odyssey

As for why players keeping with support of Star Citizen! Can you blame them? When there's nothing close to providing close to it's gameplay? Let's face it even if you don't want to. Despite all Bugs and Warts it still is able to provide moments of great gaming experience.

Personally, I enjoy it's graphics / art direction way more than in NMS, SE, Starfield, Elite etc. SC is open universe full PVPVE free 4 all with a hundred + ships to experience with no grind required. There's quite the variety of planets and moons and are all landable. Also, most importantly. The freedom of gameplay options along with the strong social aspect that drives uncertainty keeps me coming back and many others alike.

When you're having fun playing games you won't feel the need to waste time hating on them as it's a waste of gaming time.

As for the criticism I think it's just cope mechanism. Some people feel that affiliation to Elite more than reason, so anything they feel that might jeopardize it, is the enemy to put down. So they prefer to pretend there's no progress, just bugs.

It's why you had people saying that the tech they are developing would never be possible yet they keep delivering.

Yet, now. We're playing in 30 FPS servers with 600 players while before It was in 5-10 FPS servers with 50 people.

Recently happened with Pyro and Server Meshing. Some here haven't come about stating they were wrong unsurprisingly.

So yeah, might be a bit controversial around here but Star Citizen in it's buggy alpha stage (it's worst) is still able to provide amazing gaming moments that make it worth coming back. That make all other similar games redundant. And yes. that includes Elite. Which funnily enough is perfectly is showcased in this thread activity.
Thanks for replying TNT!
I find this thread much more fun when there are people who are prepared to defend starcitizen here also :)
It’s clear that some folk such as yourself can enjoy the game and ignore how it’s got there, just as there’s some here who believe CR is scam artist who shouldn’t be given a penny and probably some degree of folks who think people enjoying SC have a screw loose!
Personally, I enjoy a balanced outlook in life as far as possible, mainly for my own health! I enjoy Golgots vids for their clear content and like that they are a tonic to counter CIGs misinformation. Although i think there are some peeps who are being exploited by cr, I have a good laugh at cig’s missteps and behaviour for sure, but certainly enjoy hearing from people who can cope with the game!
 
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