DLC 19 Speculation

What if, we get a Black Howler Monkey and South American Coatimundi.


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I feel like I’m the only one who wouldn’t mind them lol idk maybe after waiting so long I’ve become soft towards the clones. At least it would offer something new compared to the other 2 SA camelids that being not domesticated and colourful.
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I'm with you! Are there animals I want a lot more? Yup. Would I be bummed that it wasn't something else in that slot? Almost definitely.

But I'd still gladly accept (and enjoy building for) them!

I think the American Black Bear is a strong candidate for an anniversary animal if there will be one. I kind of feel like they are working on a bunch of similar animals at once. Like have you noticed how we have gotten so many pigs during a short period of time? Then same thing is happening now with goats/sheeps. And of course we have gotten 2 bears not that long after one another. So I do think we might get the American Black bear one way or another. 🤔
If we get another anniversary animal this year (which I'm feeling to be more likely than I did before) then I'd tend to agree with this!

American flamingo, colourful new world monkey, Rhea, probably coati. We’re on the right track.
If we get the coati and one of the more highly-requested Latin American species (mara, ocelot, a second monkey) or one that's even just discussed vaguely (waterfowl) then this pack could be a full-on banger.

I do kinda hope that the bighorn sheep is the desert bighorn sheep because then this could be a straight-up Latin American pack. The idea of it being an "Americas" pack would be fine but... I like the idea of the pack leaning hard into Latin America but having some of the options working with NA sections (even if it's just as a stand-in).
 
Theres been talks this month to get the film released, hopefully it goes well.
me to, it would be my most hyped movie is it where to release
The current WB is basically getting rid of the Looney Tunes. Supposedly he even wants to demolish the studio they were produced at. He's destroying history, man. It's like of Disney got rid of Mickey Mouse; it shouldn't be don
 
I got bored, so I went through RG's list, removed existing animals, bolded the ones that could fit an Americas theme, and struck through the ones we suspect are coming.

AnimalVotes% people voting for this animal34.60
1Secretary Bird22834.60
2South American Coati21232.17
3Walrus20831.56
4Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo20330.80
5Black Howler Monkey19028.83
6Musk Ox18327.77
7Golden Lion Tamarin15723.82
8Shoebill15623.67
9West Indian Manatee15523.52
10Grey Crowned Crane15122.91
11Ocelot14121.40
12Serval11417.30
13Honey Badger10916.54
14Short-Beaked Echidna10716.24
15Blackbuck10115.33
Great White Pelican9714.72
17Gelada9514.42
Sea Otter9514.42
19Mantled Guereza9314.11
Patagonian Mara9314.11
21Southern Tamandua9213.96
22Greater Rhea9013.66
23Geoffroy’s Spider Monkey8713.20
24Greater Kudu8212.44
25Aye-Aye8112.29
North American Black Bear8112.29
27Elk/Wapiti8012.14
28Alligator Snapping Turtle7811.84
29Bush Dog7611.53
30Nile Crocodile7110.77
31Guianan Squirrel Monkey6910.47
32Golden Snub Nosed Monkey6610.02
33Gerenuk659.86
34Gaur639.56
35Marabou Stork598.95
Matschie's Tree Kangaroo598.95
37Southern Rockhopper Penguin578.65
38Pere David’s Deer568.50
39Raccoon Dog/Tanuki558.35
40Scarlet Ibis517.74
41Iberian Lynx497.44
42Giant Eland487.28
Southern Ground Hornbill487.28
44Helmeted Guineafowl466.98
Kinkajou466.98
46Leopard Seal456.83
Rock Hyrax456.83
Sumatran Rhino456.83
49Bighorn Sheep446.68
50Chinese Giant Salamander436.53
Fishing Cat436.53
52African Civet426.37
Mountain Goat426.37
54Green Sea Turtle406.07
Lion Tailed Macaque406.07
Olive Baboon406.07
Roseate Spoonbill406.07
58Golden Pheasant395.92
59Aardwolf385.77
60Giant Armadillo375.61
Yellow Throated Marten375.61
62White-nosed Coati365.46
Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby365.46
64Coyote355.31
Mandarin Duck355.31
Reeve's Muntjac355.31
Wild Yak355.31
68Atlantic Puffin345.16
Nilgai345.16
Southern Elephant Seal345.16
71Impala335.01
Numbat335.01
73Kakapo324.86
74Asiatic Lion314.70
Chamois314.70
Grevy's Zebra314.70
Indian Crested Porcupine314.70
78Eastern Wild Turkey304.55
79Bat-Eared Fox284.25
Three-Banded Armadillo284.25
81Common Marmoset274.10
Southern Pudu274.10
83Alpine Marmot263.95
Brazilian Porcupine263.95
Cotton-top Tamarin263.95
De Brazza’s Monkey263.95
Japanese Serow263.95
88Azara's Agouti253.79
Bottlenose Dolphin253.79
Perentie253.79
91Bobcat243.64
Himalayan Monal243.64
93Arabian Oryx233.49
Black-Footed Ferret233.49
European Hare233.49
Harbor Seal233.49
Western Capercaillie233.49
White-tailed Deer233.49
99Masai Giraffe223.34
100Black Backed Jackal213.19
Nigerian Dwarf Goat213.19
Vicuña213.19
103Banded Mongoose203.03
Black Swan203.03
Burrowing Owl203.03
Emperor Tamarin203.03
Marine Iguana203.03
Watusi Cattle203.03
Wild cat (Scottish: 7; European: 7; African 3; indifferent: 3)203.03
110Amazon River Dolphin192.88
Coconut Crab192.88
Greater Bilby192.88
North American Porcupine192.88
Sumatran Tiger192.88
Victorian Crowned Pigeon192.88
White-Faced Saki192.88
117American Flamingo182.73
Bontebok/Blesbok182.73
Ethiopian Wolf182.73
Greater Roadrunner182.73
Lowland Paca182.73
Northern White-Cheeked Gibbon182.73
Nubian Ibex182.73

Greater Rhea #22
Bighorn Sheep #49
Coyote #64
White Faced Saki #110
American Flamingo #117

There are bright sides to each of these animals, but I hope they are saving the popular ones for last. Maybe support could go on a lot longer than we think?
 
I got bored, so I went through RG's list, removed existing animals, bolded the ones that could fit an Americas theme, and struck through the ones we suspect are coming.

AnimalVotes% people voting for this animal34.60
1Secretary Bird22834.60
2South American Coati21232.17
3Walrus20831.56
4Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo20330.80
5Black Howler Monkey19028.83
6Musk Ox18327.77
7Golden Lion Tamarin15723.82
8Shoebill15623.67
9West Indian Manatee15523.52
10Grey Crowned Crane15122.91
11Ocelot14121.40
12Serval11417.30
13Honey Badger10916.54
14Short-Beaked Echidna10716.24
15Blackbuck10115.33
Great White Pelican9714.72
17Gelada9514.42
Sea Otter9514.42
19Mantled Guereza9314.11
Patagonian Mara9314.11
21Southern Tamandua9213.96
22Greater Rhea9013.66
23Geoffroy’s Spider Monkey8713.20
24Greater Kudu8212.44
25Aye-Aye8112.29
North American Black Bear8112.29
27Elk/Wapiti8012.14
28Alligator Snapping Turtle7811.84
29Bush Dog7611.53
30Nile Crocodile7110.77
31Guianan Squirrel Monkey6910.47
32Golden Snub Nosed Monkey6610.02
33Gerenuk659.86
34Gaur639.56
35Marabou Stork598.95
Matschie's Tree Kangaroo598.95
37Southern Rockhopper Penguin578.65
38Pere David’s Deer568.50
39Raccoon Dog/Tanuki558.35
40Scarlet Ibis517.74
41Iberian Lynx497.44
42Giant Eland487.28
Southern Ground Hornbill487.28
44Helmeted Guineafowl466.98
Kinkajou466.98
46Leopard Seal456.83
Rock Hyrax456.83
Sumatran Rhino456.83
49Bighorn Sheep446.68
50Chinese Giant Salamander436.53
Fishing Cat436.53
52African Civet426.37
Mountain Goat426.37
54Green Sea Turtle406.07
Lion Tailed Macaque406.07
Olive Baboon406.07
Roseate Spoonbill406.07
58Golden Pheasant395.92
59Aardwolf385.77
60Giant Armadillo375.61
Yellow Throated Marten375.61
62White-nosed Coati365.46
Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby365.46
64Coyote355.31
Mandarin Duck355.31
Reeve's Muntjac355.31
Wild Yak355.31
68Atlantic Puffin345.16
Nilgai345.16
Southern Elephant Seal345.16
71Impala335.01
Numbat335.01
73Kakapo324.86
74Asiatic Lion314.70
Chamois314.70
Grevy's Zebra314.70
Indian Crested Porcupine314.70
78Eastern Wild Turkey304.55
79Bat-Eared Fox284.25
Three-Banded Armadillo284.25
81Common Marmoset274.10
Southern Pudu274.10
83Alpine Marmot263.95
Brazilian Porcupine263.95
Cotton-top Tamarin263.95
De Brazza’s Monkey263.95
Japanese Serow263.95
88Azara's Agouti253.79
Bottlenose Dolphin253.79
Perentie253.79
91Bobcat243.64
Himalayan Monal243.64
93Arabian Oryx233.49
Black-Footed Ferret233.49
European Hare233.49
Harbor Seal233.49
Western Capercaillie233.49
White-tailed Deer233.49
99Masai Giraffe223.34
100Black Backed Jackal213.19
Nigerian Dwarf Goat213.19
Vicuña213.19
103Banded Mongoose203.03
Black Swan203.03
Burrowing Owl203.03
Emperor Tamarin203.03
Marine Iguana203.03
Watusi Cattle203.03
Wild cat (Scottish: 7; European: 7; African 3; indifferent: 3)203.03
110Amazon River Dolphin192.88
Coconut Crab192.88
Greater Bilby192.88
North American Porcupine192.88
Sumatran Tiger192.88
Victorian Crowned Pigeon192.88
White-Faced Saki192.88
117American Flamingo182.73
Bontebok/Blesbok182.73
Ethiopian Wolf182.73
Greater Roadrunner182.73
Lowland Paca182.73
Northern White-Cheeked Gibbon182.73
Nubian Ibex182.73

Greater Rhea #22
Bighorn Sheep #49
Coyote #64
White Faced Saki #110
American Flamingo #117

There are bright sides to each of these animals, but I hope they are saving the popular ones for last. Maybe support could go on a lot longer than we think?
Well off the bat I think we can eliminate the possibility of the sea otter being in the pack on account of if it was, that absolutely would have headlined.
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

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An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

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An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
I'd say that the tegu is the best bet for a reptile. For 1, we got the big 3 tortoises typically seen in several zoos, crocs would feel like a waste (unless it was African, but them again this DLC seems to be centered around the Americas), and monitors fall under the same boat as crocs (the perentie is the only one I'm personally interested in)

I highly doubt we'll get a 3rd caiman, especially after receiving the spectacled caiman
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

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An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
After Hermanns tortoise and African Spurred Tortoise I'm good on tortoises for a while. But yeah I would be down for an Argentine tegu, would bring something new to the table in terms of both the animal and building wise.
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

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An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
Frontier seens to have a unspoken rule where each year we get a single habitat reptile, so it's very possible that this dlc will have the reptile, if this is the case, i would be very excited about the tegu or arrau turtle, excited about a tortoise or other chelonians and quite disapointed with another crocodilian.

Overall Tegu is tied with coati as the two best animals for me currently and what would make the pack solid IMO.
 
I got bored, so I went through RG's list, removed existing animals, bolded the ones that could fit an Americas theme, and struck through the ones we suspect are coming.

AnimalVotes% people voting for this animal34.60
1Secretary Bird22834.60
2South American Coati21232.17
3Walrus20831.56
4Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo20330.80
5Black Howler Monkey19028.83
6Musk Ox18327.77
7Golden Lion Tamarin15723.82
8Shoebill15623.67
9West Indian Manatee15523.52
10Grey Crowned Crane15122.91
11Ocelot14121.40
12Serval11417.30
13Honey Badger10916.54
14Short-Beaked Echidna10716.24
15Blackbuck10115.33
Great White Pelican9714.72
17Gelada9514.42
Sea Otter9514.42
19Mantled Guereza9314.11
Patagonian Mara9314.11
21Southern Tamandua9213.96
22Greater Rhea9013.66
23Geoffroy’s Spider Monkey8713.20
24Greater Kudu8212.44
25Aye-Aye8112.29
North American Black Bear8112.29
27Elk/Wapiti8012.14
28Alligator Snapping Turtle7811.84
29Bush Dog7611.53
30Nile Crocodile7110.77
31Guianan Squirrel Monkey6910.47
32Golden Snub Nosed Monkey6610.02
33Gerenuk659.86
34Gaur639.56
35Marabou Stork598.95
Matschie's Tree Kangaroo598.95
37Southern Rockhopper Penguin578.65
38Pere David’s Deer568.50
39Raccoon Dog/Tanuki558.35
40Scarlet Ibis517.74
41Iberian Lynx497.44
42Giant Eland487.28
Southern Ground Hornbill487.28
44Helmeted Guineafowl466.98
Kinkajou466.98
46Leopard Seal456.83
Rock Hyrax456.83
Sumatran Rhino456.83
49Bighorn Sheep446.68
50Chinese Giant Salamander436.53
Fishing Cat436.53
52African Civet426.37
Mountain Goat426.37
54Green Sea Turtle406.07
Lion Tailed Macaque406.07
Olive Baboon406.07
Roseate Spoonbill406.07
58Golden Pheasant395.92
59Aardwolf385.77
60Giant Armadillo375.61
Yellow Throated Marten375.61
62White-nosed Coati365.46
Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby365.46
64Coyote355.31
Mandarin Duck355.31
Reeve's Muntjac355.31
Wild Yak355.31
68Atlantic Puffin345.16
Nilgai345.16
Southern Elephant Seal345.16
71Impala335.01
Numbat335.01
73Kakapo324.86
74Asiatic Lion314.70
Chamois314.70
Grevy's Zebra314.70
Indian Crested Porcupine314.70
78Eastern Wild Turkey304.55
79Bat-Eared Fox284.25
Three-Banded Armadillo284.25
81Common Marmoset274.10
Southern Pudu274.10
83Alpine Marmot263.95
Brazilian Porcupine263.95
Cotton-top Tamarin263.95
De Brazza’s Monkey263.95
Japanese Serow263.95
88Azara's Agouti253.79
Bottlenose Dolphin253.79
Perentie253.79
91Bobcat243.64
Himalayan Monal243.64
93Arabian Oryx233.49
Black-Footed Ferret233.49
European Hare233.49
Harbor Seal233.49
Western Capercaillie233.49
White-tailed Deer233.49
99Masai Giraffe223.34
100Black Backed Jackal213.19
Nigerian Dwarf Goat213.19
Vicuña213.19
103Banded Mongoose203.03
Black Swan203.03
Burrowing Owl203.03
Emperor Tamarin203.03
Marine Iguana203.03
Watusi Cattle203.03
Wild cat (Scottish: 7; European: 7; African 3; indifferent: 3)203.03
110Amazon River Dolphin192.88
Coconut Crab192.88
Greater Bilby192.88
North American Porcupine192.88
Sumatran Tiger192.88
Victorian Crowned Pigeon192.88
White-Faced Saki192.88
117American Flamingo182.73
Bontebok/Blesbok182.73
Ethiopian Wolf182.73
Greater Roadrunner182.73
Lowland Paca182.73
Northern White-Cheeked Gibbon182.73
Nubian Ibex182.73

Greater Rhea #22
Bighorn Sheep #49
Coyote #64
White Faced Saki #110
American Flamingo #117

There are bright sides to each of these animals, but I hope they are saving the popular ones for last. Maybe support could go on a lot longer than we think?
Uhm. I'm feeling golden lion tamarin from this instead of mara.

Coati has to be in this pack.

So far not one animal from the top 10 which is weird.

If it turns out to be coati and howler i would be very happy (and kind of annoyed that the left the mara out for a freaking coyote and sheep clones).
But yeah coati and any of those two nwm would be good even if i don't get my mara.
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

View attachment 423658

An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
Tegu or arrau river turtle. Marine iguana maybe. Or green anaconda if turned into an habitat animal.

But none are on the top of my wishes right now and i much rather get another nwm or another bird.
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

View attachment 423658

An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
My most wanted would be the rhinoceros iguana (though the tegu would be fantastic too). There’s possible issues with climbing habitat lizards that would impact the Green and Lesser Antilles iguanas if they were taken out of their glass confinement, but rhinoceros iguanas would completely avoid this given they’re heavily terrestrial. IRL they’re often kept in large outdoor enclosures in areas where it’s warm enough for them, and they’d add to representation for the Caribbean (which is potentially just getting its first habitat animal now with the American flamingo). Plus, they just look rad.

and monitors fall under the same boat as crocs (the perentie is the only one I'm personally interested in)
I don’t know, even besides the perentie (but especially the perentie gimme gimme frontier) there’s still a lot that could be explored with varanids, they’re quite a diverse group but currently represented only by an exceptional giant and two very similar large semi-aquatic species. Obviously they’re not options for this pack though given there are no monitor lizards native to the Americas.
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

View attachment 423658

An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
Getting a reptile definitely could be interesting, especially if it was as beautiful as the Spurred Tortoise, I would have been much more open to getting a reptile before they wasted 2 slots on the Coyote and Sheep. My top choice would have been the Arrau River Turtle because a habitat turtle would be a fun addition and good for mods. Although something like the Tegu or a habitat Iguana would also be fine.
 
I can see the vulture, but oooh I'd be so mad if we got one flying bird and it was an ugly butt guy, when we could have had -
Lorikeets
Hummingbirds
Owls
Macaws

etc etc.

The flamingo and rhea tell me this is not an arid / Western / Wild West theme though so my bet is still on the saki monkey. Also you can see its tail.
 
Getting a reptile definitely could be interesting, especially if it was as beautiful as the Spurred Tortoise, I would have been much more open to getting a reptile before they wasted 2 slots on the Coyote and Sheep. My top choice would have been the Arrau River Turtle because a habitat turtle would be a fun addition and good for mods. Although something like the Tegu or a habitat Iguana would also be fine.
Same it would be the arrau turtle for me, it would be fun to mix them with caiman.
I'd be delighted with a coati + turtle surprise.
 
Let's talk about another possibility. Do you think we could get a habitat reptile in this pack? And if we did which would you like to see?

I think the coolest possibility here would be an Argentine black-and-white tegu. I'd really like to see a habitat lizard that isn't a monitor.

View attachment 423658

An iguana could be an option but honestly I'd prefer us just getting the ones we have upgraded into habitat animals than some other species (not happening). How about a turtle? The red-footed tortoise was a popular option for a while and its not something I really want but I'd be happy to use a smaller species in a Tropical House... Aquatic turtles are also brought up but I'm not sure how good they'd be as habitat animals personally. Would anyone care for another NW crocodilian?
Would love those guys!
SA does actually have quite a few really cool options for habitat reptiles in my opinion.

-Argentine Tegu: Essentially SAs anwser to monitor lizard and could probably just be thrown onto the monitor rig without any issues, and due to a pretty wide range of habitats ranging from shrublands to tropical savannahs and rainforests also a rather versatile species.
-Rhinoceros iguana: Mainly terrestrial species, also one of the few carribean animals that arent birds.
-Red footed´tortoise: I think the game could use a smaller tortoise, we have all the enormous ones, why not a mid sized species.
-Arrau turtle: Huge ahh turtle, and one of the few species i can see working as habitat animals. Ofcourse you could keep these alone, but due to their size they actually have a lot of cool options for cohabitations, all the usual tropical SA species ofcourse, but also the dwarf caiman would be really awesome to pair up with these in a tropical house.
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