Even lighter?
I think it'd be possible for there only to be about half a dozen ships in the game, and be able to say something similar about any suggestion to add anything new. But many of the ships over and above that half dozen would be much loved. Sometimes it'd be for relatively narrow, personal reasons – like someone whose mining patience caps out at 100-150t preferring a mining ship that's slightly smaller and more agile than whatever meta one was in the half dozen.
If the T8 is only half of what I've described, then it really isn't that close... you can mine in it, but a Class 4 distributor and only a single Medium hardpoint (the efficient size for mining) doesn't make a mining ship. The optional internal layout definitely isn't optimised for mining either (less good than the Corsair is for it, actually). You're not wrong for liking mining in it, but I actually think that validates the message that a dedicated mining ship would be popular – people like a range of things, not just a Python or Corsair for everything.
For the second point, we're describing different size ships. Yeah, in a world without the Vulture you could hear someone say they want a small, agile combat ship with a Class 5 distributor and some big guns, and you could say "I don't agree at all, Fer-de-Lance is the way to go", but they're very different ships. (Obv. I'm talking about a small medium pad ship and not a small pad ship... my biggest doubt is that I might just describing "Asp Scout but good", but I want a Constrictor dammit.)
PS: incidentally, have you tried a Krait Phantom as a mining ship? It just seems like it'd be a better fit for what you're after (100-150t). 96t cargo, 10 simultaneous collectors, 2 prospectors at a time, surface scanner, 4 medium mining lasers and can power them long enough to strip an asteroid, 37 LY laden jump range, and much faster.
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Didn't really understand about the size of the gun.
All miner weapons are also class 1 except for seismic missiles, but there is such a slot there. Miner's Lance and special mining laser are also class 1.
As for PD, I use 4 miner lance and I have enough PD.
I don't really understand further, FDL is an improved Vulture, both are played from shield.
Yeah, but the class 2 laser is a lot better than the class 1. Your Type-8 might suit you fine, but it's far from the best mining ship even compared to combat multi-roles. Saying the existence of the Type-8 invalidates the idea of a dedicated mining ship is, to me, a bit like saying the existence of the Asp Explorer invalidates the idea of a dedicated combat ship.
So maybe this is a major difference in philosophy. Would you say the game might as well not have the Vulture in it, as you just see the FDL as a better Vulture? I'm glad the game has both, and I fly both.
Small combat: Viper or Cobra
Small trade: T6
Small exploration: Cobra or Hauler
Large combat: Too many to choose from
Large exploration: Anaconda
EDIT: oopsie on the trader, T6 being a medium. Cobra Mk4 or Mk5 then.
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Diamondback Explorer: "Am I a joke to you? It's in my name!"
T6 has the indignity of being a medium ship, sadly... anyway I think ruifo is getting at the idea that the new ships coming out might fit into roles like in his table, rather than saying that no existing ships already fill those roles. After all, there was a Medium Multi-Role before the Corsair and a Medium Combat ship before the Python Mk II, etc.
I very much want that. But not as standalone ship. But in a full sized expansion. Which also includes approachable water worlds, being able to submerge and explore the underwater areas, aquatic wildlife included...
New Ships - many thoughts on the topic lately with the Panther Clipper announcement
My idea is for a new class of ship that (size wise) falls between the current large ship and the FC.
The Beluga is 209L x 131W x 39H; a FC is ~3200L x 700W. There is a lot of room between those dimensions to build a new ship design. There are other threads discussing this topic - I've floated this idea before. ( ~ 1000-1500L x 300-400W size range )
It would fly like a large ship; Not how a fleet carrier travels about the galaxy. It would also have docking pads, each with a hanger below. On the low end would be a ship I might call a Frigate with one large landing pad and at least one medium pad and a small pad or two.
New class of modules would be required obviously and obviously it would have to interact with stations and planets via the ships it carries. call it a pocket carrier ... jeep carrier ... Turrets are its only weapons including several SLFs for defense. fanciful thoughts I know
Think big.
Have a nice day
My idea is for a new class of ship that (size wise) falls between the current large ship and the FC.
The Beluga is 209L x 131W x 39H; a FC is ~3200L x 700W. There is a lot of room between those dimensions to build a new ship design. There are other threads discussing this topic - I've floated this idea before. ( ~ 1000-1500L x 300-400W size range )
It would fly like a large ship; Not how a fleet carrier travels about the galaxy. It would also have docking pads, each with a hanger below. On the low end would be a ship I might call a Frigate with one large landing pad and at least one medium pad and a small pad or two.
New class of modules would be required obviously and obviously it would have to interact with stations and planets via the ships it carries. call it a pocket carrier ... jeep carrier ... Turrets are its only weapons including several SLFs for defense. fanciful thoughts I know
Think big.
Have a nice day
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Viper Mk5.
We call that one the Cobra Mk V.Viper Mk5.
New ship: Panther Clipper
Auch.
You gotta admit that just after Colonization's launch YouTube was flooded with facts that ended up to being wild speculation and ultimately wrong and misleading.
I recently tidied up my fleet, to make room on my FC for the new SCO native ships.
I even scrapped 2 of my Couriers (leaving only 4), but neither Vulture or FDL loadouts went to the great shipyard in the sky...
The Vulture (and Viper IV) are just too much fun to not have!
I like the Vulture (the only ship I have two of, one in the bubble and one in Colonia) it is good sniper's nest and its defenses have allowed me to escape catastrophe on several occasions.
The number of ships you can store on your FC is too damn low!
Once i buy the CM5 i'm going to have to decide which of my ships to dock at a station. Also, on DW3, i'm parking all my ships on the official FCs, so will need to park on two of them instead of one.
Sounds like a first galaxy problem
I had a bunch of ships parked in useful locations, as well as a full FC load.
I had to be brutal in deciding which ships were effectively replaced by the new ones, and which had been stored for long enough to hint that they might just have been redundant in my current playstyle.
The great thing is, now that we have additional module storage, that the engineered modules might be stored for future use, as the ships themselves are readily available if needs must.