Ranking the areas still requiring animals

I am also very concerned for the Mara. I suspect the next pack will be a return to an old world region such as East Asia or Africa or a theme that not many popular South American animals fit into like islands or costal. Personally I think the Coati and Squirrel Monkey are the most likely South American animals left. Hopefully we get the Mara in some sort of scrublands pack.
I don’t foresee another return to the Americas, however, I can see us getting another generic “round the world” pack that can add animals from the Americas.

I personally foresee a Safari type pack. However, these last 3 DLCs have all been “popular or long requested” themes. If we do get another DLC I can honestly see something that’s been long requested, like the Coastal Pack.
 
personally its still greatly lacking in biodiversity as it has a list of "missing key animals" that reads like "3+ monkey, 2+ waterbirds, macaws, 2+ ground critters, coati" which for me doesnt gell with the yellow tier as its just really still to much missing. Blame frontier for representing the north american desert equally with the south american rainforest in the pack
the macaws really do be the definition of a key species here
the main animal groups that zoos typically keep in bulk (monkeys, aviary birds, waterbirds) are currently just laughably lacking
None, its all based on vibes and even those tend to differ.
Some people jump at the opportunity to ssy something needs to be moved up while others are more critically.
Best example is the South American rainforest Orange or Yellow example, because both sides have valid points for why the Bar should be higher due to potential and lower due to expectation
Exactly, and my vibes tell me that South American rainforests should never hit green without an essential group such as birds, and macaws and toucans specifically. The lack of SA animals in real zoos as opposed to a fair biodiversity representation in-game has been discussed here, but if there's an animal from the region being kept usually...that's arboreal birds.

South America rainforest reasoning
While I agree that there's a chasm between south america's potential and its actual representation in the game,
  • (And of course birds but we don't count them in PZ1 unfortunately)
So if we judge this area the same we judged the previous areas as compared to what's feasible and likely in the game, I think we can now pinpoint two specific gaps (coati, tamarin) that keep us away from a realistic baseline roster for global zoos. That in addition to @IberianFlamenco🦩🦖 's good point that the orange category became less relevant as most of the areas were more fleshed out.
Even if I'm fine with the region turning yellow, the very definition of the Orange tier is expressed as "Regions which are still lacking compared to their biodiversity". I just believe that there are certain defining species whose absence should limit the color progression for the region indefinitely (monkeys and birds in this case) whether they're realistic to implement or not, so that it stays yellow even if we get the coati and however many other animals. Quality over quantity, sort of.
 
Question would be if one or two specific animals can determine the colour of a region. For example, New Guinea is yellow right now because of the demand for a tree-roo. What if we get a victoria crowned pigeon and echidna in the next DLC but no tree-roo? Does it stay yellow because we still have no tree-roo or does it move up to green because we got a fair amount of diverse animals, just not the specific one we wanted the most?
 
Hopefully with the next update the Philippines are corrected to include binturongs and Asian small-clawed otters (elevating to green)
I don't agree honestly, I feel like we need at least one Philippine endemic to justify elevating the region to green. Otherwise, what's even the point of considering it distinct from the rest of south-east Asia?

Getting more species for the Philippines from beyond Palawan would also be ideal IMO, as Palawan is unlike the rest of the Philippine archipelago in that it joins to the rest of south-east Asia when sea levels are low, therefore sharing a lot of species and genera with Borneo that are not present on the other islands. This is the case with both the binturong and Asian small-clawed otter.
 
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Speaking more on the broader south-east Asia region, I feel like there's a really good case for splitting Wallacea from Tropical South-east Asia in the same manner as the Philippines. Wallacea is the region of islands stretching between continental Asia and continental Australia - geologically they are part of neither continent, and biologically they are a mix of both, becoming more Asian as you head further west and more Australian as you head east. Given their isolation and unique position in-between two drastically different continents, the islands possess their own unique mix of flora and fauna including many endemic species and genera.
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Species we currently have from Wallacea are:
1. North Sulawesi Babirusa (endemic)
2. Spectacled Flying-fox [WE]
3. Southern Cassowary (ancient introduction to Seram)
4. Saltwater Crocodile
5. Komodo Dragon (now endemic, also in Australia in prehistory)
6. Asian Water Monitor

Its current representation is surprisingly good for such an obscure region, even with only two of those species being endemic to the islands, so I think it'd be an easy green. To get it to blue I think all it needs is one or two more species from Sulawesi, which is the island in Wallacea with by far the greatest zoo relevance - options include the lowland anoa and Sulawesi crested macaque as well as the more rarely-kept Sulawesi bear cuscus and maleo.
 
Speaking more on the broader south-east Asia region, I feel like there's a really good case for splitting Wallacea from Tropical South-east Asia in the same manner as the Philippines. Wallacea is the region of islands stretching between continental Asia and continental Australia - geologically they are part of neither continent, and biologically they are a mix of both, becoming more Asian as you head further west and more Australian as you head east. Given their isolation and unique position in-between two drastically different continents, the islands possess their own unique mix of flora and fauna including many endemic species and genera.
wallacea.png


Species we currently have from Wallacea are:
1. North Sulawesi Babirusa (endemic)
2. Spectacled Flying-fox [WE]
3. Southern Cassowary (ancient introduction to Seram)
4. Saltwater Crocodile
5. Komodo Dragon (now endemic, also in Australia in prehistory)
6. Asian Water Monitor

Its current representation is surprisingly good for such an obscure region, even with only two of those species being endemic to the islands, so I think it'd be an easy green. To get it to blue I think all it needs is one or two more species from Sulawesi, which is the island in Wallacea with by far the greatest zoo relevance - options include the lowland anoa and Sulawesi crested macaque as well as the more rarely-kept Sulawesi bear cuscus and maleo.
sulawesi is the only point where native ungulates and marsupials exist and in general is such a unique hybrid of the 2 worlds that it really should be its own category especially if the phillipines gets its own section which in in my opinion is anymore biogeographically significant than anywhere else in south east asia.
 
Speaking more on the broader south-east Asia region, I feel like there's a really good case for splitting Wallacea from Tropical South-east Asia in the same manner as the Philippines. Wallacea is the region of islands stretching between continental Asia and continental Australia - geologically they are part of neither continent, and biologically they are a mix of both, becoming more Asian as you head further west and more Australian as you head east. Given their isolation and unique position in-between two drastically different continents, the islands possess their own unique mix of flora and fauna including many endemic species and genera.
Now that you mention it, I think it'd be cool to have crab-eating macaques in PZ as they're the most prominent example of a species that crossed the Wallace Line.
 
so after alot of data entry here are some basic stats on whats important towards MAMMAL ONLY representation

1191 total wild species recorded (didnt include domestics)
55989 total holdings (some disputed domestic ssp included)

the wild water buffalo is the only ingame mammal that at a species level has no current holdings so is therefore excluded
these animals were excluded based on domestic status
  • bactrian camel
  • llama
  • dingo
  • dromedary camel
  • alpaca
  • hill radnor sheep (no holdings anyways)
  • tamworth pig
  • alpine goat
  • highland cattle
  • american standard donkey (no holdings anyways)

at a subspecies level these animals have no current holdings but were included as representatives of their species.
  • proboscis monkey
  • dhole
  • arctic wolf (was treated as the generic so no distinct category)

raw numbers
continentspecies remainingspecies obtainedtotalremaining holdingsholdings obtainedtotal
africa2795233178371272520562
asia39548443102121128821500
europe8917106275555968351
north america17228200439855899987
south america237142519443249211935
oceania1218129178514533238
antartica50523023

proportional global stats
continentproportion of total holdingsproportion of total speciesrepresentative indexspecies proportion ingameholding proportion ingame
africa37%28%0.4616%62%
asia38%37%0.5611%53%
europe15%8.9%0.1616%67%
north america18%17%0.2714%56%
south america21%21%0.315.6%21%
oceania5.8%11%0.146.2%45%
antartica0.041%0.42%0.00440%0%

ingame stats
continentcurrent species proportionspecies till match
africa43%-18
asia40%-3
europe14%-6
north america23%-8
south america11%11
oceania6.6%5
antartica00
 
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At this point, despite its representation, I feel like Asia is missing some areas to cover and could benefit from a DLC or two (and one just for Asia, no offense to the Eurasia Pack). More than anything, it would benefit from a DLC focused on East Asia or South Asia (hopefully both will arrive).

In the Americas, it's still missing some important animals (mainly New World Primates), but it would still be too soon for a DLC focused on the Americas (literally, the last DLC was focused on the mentioned region).

We have quite a few animals from Africa, although, well, I'm always open to more (and, well, one of the ones I'm most looking forward to comes from Africa).

And regarding Europe and Oceania, I don't think we need another DLC focused on those continents. Bringing one or two from a joint DLC (like the Zookeepers, Twilight or any of the habitat-focused ones, like Grasslands, Tropical, or Arid Packs) would be more than enough.
 
At this point, despite its representation, I feel like Asia is missing some areas to cover and could benefit from a DLC or two (and one just for Asia, no offense to the Eurasia Pack). More than anything, it would benefit from a DLC focused on East Asia or South Asia (hopefully both will arrive).

In the Americas, it's still missing some important animals (mainly New World Primates), but it would still be too soon for a DLC focused on the Americas (literally, the last DLC was focused on the mentioned region).

We have quite a few animals from Africa, although, well, I'm always open to more (and, well, one of the ones I'm most looking forward to comes from Africa).

And regarding Europe and Oceania, I don't think we need another DLC focused on those continents. Bringing one or two from a joint DLC (like the Zookeepers, Twilight or any of the habitat-focused ones, like Grasslands, Tropical, or Arid Packs) would be more than enough.
I fully agree.

Only going with the most representative of each region plus a couple of animals that have been mentioned a lot...

East Asia:
  • Golden pheasant
  • Himalaya monal
  • Mandarín duck
  • Raccoon dog
  • Yellow throated marten
  • Yak
  • Golden snub nosed monkey
  • Pere David deer
  • Reeve's Muntjac
  • Japanese serow
  • Giant salamander

South Asia (India mainly)
  • Blackbuck
  • Gaur
  • Honey badger
  • Fishing cat
  • Lion tailed macaque
  • Hanuman langur
  • Painted stork
  • Damoiselle crane
  • Great argus pheasant
  • King cobra

África
  • Grey crowned crane
  • Secretary bird
  • Great white pelican
  • Helmeted guineafowl
  • Marabou or saddle billed stork
  • Ground hornbill
  • Gerenuk
  • Giant eland
  • Greater kudu
  • Serval
  • Black baked jackal
  • Aardwolf
  • Nile crocodile
  • Mantled guereza
  • Vervet monkey
  • Olive baboon
  • Gelada

Latín / South América
  • Southamerican coati
  • Patagonian mara
  • Agouti
  • Brazilian tapir
  • Guanaco
  • Vicuña
  • Black howler monkey
  • Mexican spider monkey
  • Golden lion tamarin
  • Squirrel monkey
  • Southern tamandua
  • Scarlet ibis
  • Roseate spoonbill
  • Southern screamer
  • White faced whislitng duck
  • Rockhopper penguin
  • Argentina black and white tegu
  • Arrau rivera turtle
  • Green anaconda

Oceanía
  • Tree kangaroo
  • Yellow footed rock wallaby
  • Short beaked echidna
  • Perentie
  • Black swan
  • Victoria's crowned pigeon

Europe / NA / The North (Arctic)

  • Walrus
  • Sea otter
  • Musk ox
  • Wapiti
  • Chamois?
  • Alpine marmot
  • North american porcupine
  • River otter
  • American black bear
  • Eurasian Brown bear
  • Canadian lynx
  • Wild turkey
  • White stork
  • Mallard duck

I think that pretty much covers all the animals that have been mentioned the most for each region. So yeah no where close to getting most of these and honestly surprised how many "Big names" are going to be left out in favor of more obscure or random pics.
 
I fully agree.

Only going with the most representative of each region plus a couple of animals that have been mentioned a lot...

East Asia:
  • Golden pheasant
  • Himalaya monal
  • Mandarín duck
  • Raccoon dog
  • Yellow throated marten
  • Yak
  • Golden snub nosed monkey
  • Pere David deer
  • Reeve's Muntjac
  • Japanese serow
  • Giant salamander

South Asia (India mainly)
  • Blackbuck
  • Gaur
  • Honey badger
  • Fishing cat
  • Lion tailed macaque
  • Hanuman langur
  • Painted stork
  • Damoiselle crane
  • Great argus pheasant
  • King cobra

África
  • Grey crowned crane
  • Secretary bird
  • Great white pelican
  • Helmeted guineafowl
  • Marabou or saddle billed stork
  • Ground hornbill
  • Gerenuk
  • Giant eland
  • Greater kudu
  • Serval
  • Black baked jackal
  • Aardwolf
  • Nile crocodile
  • Mantled guereza
  • Vervet monkey
  • Olive baboon
  • Gelada

Latín / South América
  • Southamerican coati
  • Patagonian mara
  • Agouti
  • Brazilian tapir
  • Guanaco
  • Vicuña
  • Black howler monkey
  • Mexican spider monkey
  • Golden lion tamarin
  • Squirrel monkey
  • Southern tamandua
  • Scarlet ibis
  • Roseate spoonbill
  • Southern screamer
  • White faced whislitng duck
  • Rockhopper penguin
  • Argentina black and white tegu
  • Arrau rivera turtle
  • Green anaconda

Oceanía
  • Tree kangaroo
  • Yellow footed rock wallaby
  • Short beaked echidna
  • Perentie
  • Black swan
  • Victoria's crowned pigeon

Europe / NA / The North (Arctic)

  • Walrus
  • Sea otter
  • Musk ox
  • Wapiti
  • Chamois?
  • Alpine marmot
  • North american porcupine
  • River otter
  • American black bear
  • Eurasian Brown bear
  • Canadian lynx
  • Wild turkey
  • White stork
  • Mallard duck

I think that pretty much covers all the animals that have been mentioned the most for each region. So yeah no where close to getting most of these and honestly surprised how many "Big names" are going to be left out in favor of more obscure or random pics.
Personally, I don't think most of the animals you mentioned will make it into the game. Not because I want to. But because this game probably has two or three years left. Also, I don't want to talk about a hypothetical Planet Zoo 2 until Frontier says something about this game being over (and I'm really looking forward to the next Frontier Unlocked).
 
Personally, I don't think most of the animals you mentioned will make it into the game. Not because I want to. But because this game probably has two or three years left. Also, I don't want to talk about a hypothetical Planet Zoo 2 until Frontier says something about this game being over (and I'm really looking forward to the next Frontier Unlocked).
2 or 3 years seems very generous to be honest. I think its probably 2 or 3 packs max
 
2 or 3 years seems very generous to be honest. I think its probably 2 or 3 packs max
Even that seems generous. Next one could be the last. Final bundle, round number of DLCs, next year new games come out and this year PC2 Will start getting DLCs. I think this time for real all signs point to next DLC being the very least one.

Only other chance i see of one extra DLC next year would be if they decide to reléase a simultaneous pack for PC and Console like some have suggested.

If next one is the last i would love at least 10 animals for a proper send off.
 
I fully agree.

Only going with the most representative of each region plus a couple of animals that have been mentioned a lot...

East Asia:
  • Golden pheasant
  • Himalaya monal
  • Mandarín duck
  • Raccoon dog
  • Yellow throated marten
  • Yak
  • Golden snub nosed monkey
  • Pere David deer
  • Reeve's Muntjac
  • Japanese serow
  • Giant salamander

South Asia (India mainly)
  • Blackbuck
  • Gaur
  • Honey badger
  • Fishing cat
  • Lion tailed macaque
  • Hanuman langur
  • Painted stork
  • Damoiselle crane
  • Great argus pheasant
  • King cobra

África
  • Grey crowned crane
  • Secretary bird
  • Great white pelican
  • Helmeted guineafowl
  • Marabou or saddle billed stork
  • Ground hornbill
  • Gerenuk
  • Giant eland
  • Greater kudu
  • Serval
  • Black baked jackal
  • Aardwolf
  • Nile crocodile
  • Mantled guereza
  • Vervet monkey
  • Olive baboon
  • Gelada

Latín / South América
  • Southamerican coati
  • Patagonian mara
  • Agouti
  • Brazilian tapir
  • Guanaco
  • Vicuña
  • Black howler monkey
  • Mexican spider monkey
  • Golden lion tamarin
  • Squirrel monkey
  • Southern tamandua
  • Scarlet ibis
  • Roseate spoonbill
  • Southern screamer
  • White faced whislitng duck
  • Rockhopper penguin
  • Argentina black and white tegu
  • Arrau rivera turtle
  • Green anaconda

Oceanía
  • Tree kangaroo
  • Yellow footed rock wallaby
  • Short beaked echidna
  • Perentie
  • Black swan
  • Victoria's crowned pigeon

Europe / NA / The North (Arctic)

  • Walrus
  • Sea otter
  • Musk ox
  • Wapiti
  • Chamois?
  • Alpine marmot
  • North american porcupine
  • River otter
  • American black bear
  • Eurasian Brown bear
  • Canadian lynx
  • Wild turkey
  • White stork
  • Mallard duck

I think that pretty much covers all the animals that have been mentioned the most for each region. So yeah no where close to getting most of these and honestly surprised how many "Big names" are going to be left out in favor of more obscure or random pics.
You're missing quite a few small mammals for Europe : European hare, Eurasian otter, European wildcat, any small mustelidae (polecat, beech or pine marten, mink)...
Small mammals is a category with actually rather few representants in the game, and Europe has the most iconic version of them usually (even though they're common throughout the world). This is what is missing to have a Blue Europe on the map IMO - chamois or mouflon would be nice, and white stork or mallard too, but we already have the ibex and the swan which fill similar niches for the region.
 
I have a claim to make. If we'd had moved just two clone animals from DLCs to the base game for South America (so we'd have 4 animals like North America started with), and removed on Caiman, we could have had a much more balanced roster.

  • Base Game:
    • Tapir
    • Galapagos tortoise
    • Greater Rhea (pulled back)
    • Capuchin (pulled back)
    • Peccary (added later)
  • South America:
    • Jaguar
    • Giant Anteater
    • Llama
    • Patagonian mara(new)
  • Aquatic:
    • Giant otter
    • Capybara (pulled back instead of dwarf Caiman)
  • Wetlands:
    • Spectacled Caiman
    • Asian water monitor (pulled back)
  • Grasslands:
    • Maned Wolf
    • Armadillo
  • Tropical:
    • Coati (new)
    • Sloth
  • Zookeeper:
    • Spectacled bear
  • Americas:
    • American flamingo
    • Bush dog
    • Ocelot
    • White faced saki
    • Golden lion tamarin (new)
How's this for a South America lineup?
 
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I have a claim to make. If we'd had moved just two clone animals from DLCs to the base game for South America (so we'd have 4 animals like North America started with), and removed on Caiman, we could have had a much more balanced roster.

  • Base Game:
    • Tapir
    • Galapagos tortoise
    • Greater Rhea (pulled back)
    • Capuchin (pulled back)
    • Peccary (added later)
  • South America:
    • Jaguar
    • Giant Anteater
    • Llama
    • Patagonian mara(new)
  • Aquatic:
    • Giant otter
    • Capybara (pulled back instead of dwarf Caiman)
  • Wetlands:
    • Spectacled Caiman
    • Asian water monitor (pulled back)
  • Grasslands:
    • Maned Wolf
    • Armadillo
  • Tropical:
    • Coati (new)
    • Sloth
  • Zookeeper:
    • Spectacled bear
  • Americas:
    • American flamingo
    • Bush dog
    • Ocelot
    • White faced saki
    • Golden lion tamarin (new)
How's this for a South America lineup?
Beautiful. I would prefer the howler but i understand the tamarin being different from the saki so it also works. Although tbh i would remover the coyote, add the coati there and leave tropical for either the Scarlet ibis or another monkey or a tamandua.
 
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