I was also thinking Black Swan.
I understand some may view it as redundant due to Mute one already in game, but for me it's one of those quintessential zoo animals. Never been to a zoo without one
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I understand some may view it as redundant due to Mute one already in game, but for me it's one of those quintessential zoo animals. Never been to a zoo without one
I actually agree. Besides birds, South America is really only missing the coati, the mara, and at least 1 more monkey.
Similarly, Australia is missing (in my opinion) the perentie.
Now if we add birds, that's a huge difference. But that's a rabbit hole I don't feel like going down
dont know where your getting these numbers from
based on ingame definitions oceania has 21 habitat and south america has 29
even when you account for the mess that is barnyard
its 14 / 23
accounting further for their weird boundaries in central america
its 14/21
its a quarter or a third no where near a half.
total animals it 27 oceania and 45 south america also not half
yeah that was on my list but I wanted to showcase how many new groups that could be added but blackswan is definitely on my essential list.
I said Australia not Oceania, so the kiwi is out. Also didn't include the king penguin for either.
Australia
- Platypus
- Tasmanian Devil
- Common Wombat
- Koala
- Quokka
- Red Kangaroo
- Red-necked Wallaby
- Dingo
- Southern Cassowary
- Emu
- Little Penguin
- Saltwater Crocodile
- Spectacled Flying-fox
- Eastern Bluetongue Skink
- Eastern Brown Snake
- Common Death Adder
- Giant Anteater
- Nine-banded Armadillo
- Capybara
- Colombian White-faced Capuchin
- White-faced Saki
- Bush Dog
- Maned Wolf
- Spectacled Bear
- Giant Otter
- Cougar
- Ocelot
- Jaguar
- Baird's Tapir
- Alpaca
- Llama
- Collared Peccary
- Greater Rhea
- American Flamingo
- Galapagos Giant Tortoise (could technically be excluded)
- Cuiver's Dwarf Caiman
- Spectacled Caiman
- Brown-throated Sloth
- Green Iguana
- Boa Constrictor
- Yellow Anaconda
- Golden Poison Frog
- Lehmann's Poison Frog
- Red-eyed Tree Frog
- Brazilian Salmon Pink Tarantula
- Goliath Birdeater
- Brazilian Wandering Spider
- Amazonian Giant Centipede
- Cloudless Sulphur
- Menelaus Blue Morpho
- Monarch
- Titan Beetle
EDIT: Forgot the otter lol
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Yeah i thought about it but since You said a pack that doesn't feel redundant i tried to think of things Australia desperately needs (a monitor) and animals that are different from what we already have. But i also want a black swan tbh haha
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I'd still like to see the Bilby, Echidna, Yellow-footed rock wallaby for Australia. I personally consider very little to be "essential" by the strict definition of the word, because the goalposts are always moving, but if you only let me pick 3 Australian (non bird/exhibit) species those are the ones I'd pick
I somehow completely missed you saying australia and not oceania but given that only changes one debatable 2 species. I also just didnt realise how close 2 thirds and a half where at these numbers
the subspecies the game picked for the king penguin is endemic to south america so it really should be there ill concede on it not being australian or oceanian
the burrowing cockroach also isnt in your list despite being endemic to australia and arguably the monarch is native and is the current stance of the game.
Oops, completely forgot the cockroach haha. Thought I might be missing something.
I don't see what argument there is for monarchs being native though. They're a non-native species that depends on a non-native plant to survive.
Whilst I get that sentiment, you'd be surprised how often you need to "dumb down" a feature that power users and more frequent users would get along with easily. Especially when you have a broad user-base where you have both kids and adults alike playing your games.
Again, I get the initial sentiment; but this isn't a Frontier thing. It's a pretty common thing we're confronted with in the industry, speaking from experience with working on an application ecosystem that had a similar kind of age range (not with kids, but with age differences that could run up to 40 years)
The "I need to call my grandkid because I don't know how to use an app on my phone" customer base? Because I hope you mean age difference and not really 40 years of age.(not with kids, but with age differences that could run up to 40 years)
To be fair, that might come down to SA animals just being internationally more represented. I get you aussies want to build your home zoo, but australian animals outside of oceania are super rare in zoos... and I suspect part of that reason is your strict rules with exporting.
So in that case I get why more australian animals are less on Frontiers radar. They look more at what is wished for here, mostly, I guess, and they get inspired by their local zoos as we have seen in the past - with the occasional oddball.
I understand that, and I'm super grateful for the representation we got already - it's the best of any zoo game*, even if it's still lacking compared to the diversity of native animals kept in Australian zoos. As I said in my original post I'm fairly at peace with it at this point (only turned into a SA vs Aus thing because it got brought up), but it would just be nice if we got another species from Oceania soon given it's been so long.
*Zoo Tycoon Ultimate Animal Collection had a greater number of Australian animals (35 species in total), including lots never featured in zoo games before or since, but was lacking basic animals like emus, cassowaries, dingoes and wallabies that give PZ the upper hand. Still, PZ kinda has the opposite problem where it's got most of the essentials (barring a few things like echidnas and monitor lizards) but has barely any filler animals for Australia, which are also important for making zoos feel fleshed out and interesting. Need more quokka-tier animals haha.
No I meant that between the youngest users and the oldest users there sometimes was 40 years differenceThe "I need to call my grandkid because I don't know how to use an app on my phone" customer base? Because I hope you mean age difference and not really 40 years of age.
Phew. I was about to get at you, not gonna lie.No I meant that between the youngest users and the oldest users there sometimes was 40 years difference
Though I did read it that way initially.So, anyone, are we having a peek at Summer Games Fest today? Are we hoping for anything? I guess JWE3 is possible, but not guaranteed. Personally I am more looking forward to the next Frontier Unlocked, but that seems ages away this month.
This gave me flashbacks to me working in a supermarket and having to show this one grandma how to use the card reader once or twice a week for like a year straightThe "I need to call my grandkid because I don't know how to use an app on my phone" customer base? Because I hope you mean age difference and not really 40 years of age.
When were going by how it was for americas and zookeeper it should be this tuesday 10.04.
Take that with a grain of salt tho. Seeing how close this this is to the previous pack i wouldnt be surprise if we had to wait longer for the announcement this time
10.04. that's quite specific haha