Amonia worlds in vicinity?
Ammonia worlds are where Thargoids preferred to place their bases, i don't think they have anything to do with Guardians (at least i haven't found owt yet).
I have yet to find a pattern or definitive planet/system type for Guardian stuff, not saying there isn't, i just haven't found it yet.

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Doing random to summon a permit that we don't even know is possible to get is just dumb and its not content bro.
Yet people have spent hundreds of hours doing just that. It's low effort content for them. They're never going to come out and be clear about these sorts of things because it works. It's frustrating but it's clearly working as intended.
 
Yet people have spent hundreds of hours doing just that. It's low effort content for them. They're never going to come out and be clear about these sorts of things because it works. It's frustrating but it's clearly working as intended.
Heard. I just want others to not fall into the trap, because not everything locked is Raxxla, hell, probably none of it is. :ROFLMAO:
 
Does anyone know are there any conditions that could increase chances of finding guardian stuff in a system?

Star magnitude and type? Amonia worlds in vicinity? Many gas giants? Etc.
If you find Brain Trees (or Guardian Trees) then there's usually a site near by... and from memory Nebulas are a good place to look for them...

And if you find one system with them (Brain Trees), there's a good chance there's others near by...

They grow on planets with no atmosphere but with volcanic activity....
 
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They grow on planets with no atmosphere but with volcanic activity....
They grow on planets with no atmospheric pressure they've been found on this atmosphere planets if the atmosphere is so thin it might as well not be there.

Unfortunately it seems unlikely at this stage that there are any further guardian regions at least none near nebula in the galaxy and if they're not at a nebula good luck lucking into a 200ly wide sphere.
 
Has anyone from FD ever confirmed that Raxxla is locateable with Legacy Elite? I know they don't want to say anything that might give a clue. HOWEVER it's a long time since it was supposedly inserted into the gamma (2014), and by implication locateable therein! Since then we've had Horizons and Odyssey....they upgraded the Zurara to a megaship when those were introduced, but to my knowledge have never said anything about any Raxxla updates. In fact they never said anything about which version of the game is needed to find it....

The reason I'm pondering this is that the hexagon with contained ring from the codex logo bears a striking resemblance to the symbol for an engineer, which are surface-based.
 
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Is this new? Is this the missing Bounty hunter Ziva Eschel last seen in Jacksons Lighthouse? i note the other names bear resemblance to her followers Military base at Talis Legacy with no pop in system???
 
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Bear in mind players can name their own stations now

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Its not an arcitect system nor near enough to another system to be one, its a 0 pop anarchy with 4 military bases named after a galnet article of followers and the planet named after the missing bounty hunter, Trying to get into the first one but its a bit tough with a sheildless Mandalay with Pulse lazers lol
 
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Its not an arcitect system nor near enough to another system to be one, its a 0 pop anarchy with 4 military bases named after a galnet article of followers and the planet named after the missing bounty hunter, Trying to get into the first one but its a bit tough with a sheildless Mandalay with Pulse lazers lol
Aye its a protected system, ie it cant be colonised.
Anything in there is Fdevs doing.

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So the Ziva settlements are much like these in the Pencil Nebula,
I'm attempting to scan all the data points at Tali's Legacy now, wouldn't be surprised if no one has completed these, but they are very old content.

Edit 1: Empty Message along with 2 others for the material gain, strange.
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Edit2: Completed Vada's Base. Just more materials. These old settlements only have one interesting thing imo and its the little depots where you can pull the srv up and it looks like you can drop items in it, kinda like the gaurdian sites.
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Unfortunately it seems unlikely at this stage that there are any further guardian regions at least none near nebula in the galaxy and if they're not at a nebula good luck lucking into a 200ly wide sphere.

The thing is to reduce the requirement for luck.

An estimate of how many samples are needed over a 200 ly diameter sphere to nail at least one Branca (Brain Tree) would be useful. Then, for each search space (say. a galactic sector or perhaps even a region) select coordinates according to other distribution parameters (such as distance to galactic plane etc), and visit them. When all have been visited without finds, it should be possible to say that there are no Branca in this sector with a confidence of xx %.

Once one has been found, more detailed searching will be require to find the Guardian site.

That sounds like a possible project, perhaps an expedition. (I wonder if Vanguards will allow the kind of mission needed ... ?) Of course, knowing just how many sample points are needed (for a sector) would help estimate the time and effort required.
 
So the Ziva settlements are much like these in the Pencil Nebula,
I'm attempting to scan all the data points at Tali's Legacy now, wouldn't be surprised if no one has completed these, but they are very old content.

Edit 1: Empty Message along with 2 others for the material gain, strange.
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Edit2: Completed Vada's Base. Just more materials. These old settlements only have one interesting thing imo and its the little depots where you can pull the srv up and it looks like you can drop items in it, kinda like the gaurdian sites.
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I managed to get Talis also same messages, these SRV docks are in other locations also however never tried dropping objects on them now that you said it
 
I got a "None" datapacket from Talis, The fed one was from a different site

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So I believe that there may be something to such settlements, but they are clearly just copy pasted with a few different varieties. They always have some sort of "srv depot" so these aren't unique other than the naming of them. Intel packages are from scanning all the data points but I wonder now if I can find a nearby system that gives horizon missions to go scan the personal terminals, hub access, etc beacons, cuz those don't do anything unless you have the mission. Or atleast I have no clue what they do, hardly anyone ever does this srv horizons content. If you're still looking into it, find the closest station and look for a mission to 4 Arietis. Again, that might not solve anything, but atleast could tie up some loose ends at those sites. The missions should say "requires srv" and will make you scan one of those special terminals.
 
An estimate of how many samples are needed over a 200 ly diameter sphere to nail at least one Branca (Brain Tree) would be useful. Then, for each search space (say. a galactic sector or perhaps even a region) select coordinates according to other distribution parameters (such as distance to galactic plane etc), and visit them. When all have been visited without finds, it should be possible to say that there are no Branca in this sector with a confidence of xx %.
We've scanned less than 1% of the galaxy all you need is 20 systems per 200ly sphere. 50 would give you almost certainty. The galaxy does have holes but the chances of us having missed them at this stage are actually fairly low but still possible. The main point is we have the pattern they follow and there's no further locations that follow their pattern.
 
...[2] I have a vague theory that the six descriptions of the DW Toast might refer to six things (nebulae, systems, planets, etc.) which together form a (possibly irregular) hexagon with Raxxla at its centre...

How about six systems all near to each other with planets that are the same mass and radius? Also, they are all in the Old Worlds. Gurney Slade is the outlier.
 

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We've scanned less than 1% of the galaxy all you need is 20 systems per 200ly sphere. 50 would give you almost certainty. The galaxy does have holes but the chances of us having missed them at this stage are actually fairly low but still possible. The main point is we have the pattern they follow and there's no further locations that follow their pattern.

What is the '20 systems per 200 ly sphere' based on? Ideally, it should be based on presence of Branca in a number of 100 ly radius spheres around Guardian sites (i.e. recorded for multiple independent sites), but may be possible to get an estimate from spaces where multiple overlapping populations, as well as with incompletely inventoried spaces. But the measure should come with a derived measure of confidence. "almost certainty" is ... not clearly useful as a measure. As this factor will affect the eventual "no Branca present in this sector (or 100 ly radius volume) with a confidence of % xx" it needs to be fairly high to avoid a final confidence level that is only less than 90%.

If the Raxxla Potato Hunt covers any Guardian sites, I can see that it may be possible to extract useful data from the FSS data, but ... does it? (A quick search with Spansh suggests that it doesn't.) Other FSS data needs similar 'all systems (or 90% or 80% of systems) have been scanned' assurance.

The main point is we have the pattern they follow and there's no further locations that follow their pattern.

Could you clarify what 'they' refers to? Branca? Guardian sites? What reported work is the conclusion based on?
 
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What is the '20 systems per 200 ly sphere' based on?
It's based on my brain tree mapping sessions where I filled out enough gaps in the data to isolate the centre points for each sphere. You need to find a system with no atmosphere, landable planets that meet the bio requirements for brain trees. They're incredibly common in the areas where they exist. Your chances of going 20 systems within any brain tree zone without seeing trees is very low. I could do the statistics on it for an actual % numbers but so could you since the centres sizes and mapping data is available. 20 and 50 are sufficient for me as likely and almost certain. At this stage I'm not going to do the statistics because when I check locations more often than not it's not tens it's hundreds of mapped systems within 200ly and then we're so far over my thresholds as to be almost certain.


Could you clarify what 'they' refers to? Branca? Guardian sites? What reported work is the conclusion based on?
Guardian sites. We have 2 large zones centred on permit locks and with large brain tree spheres. All the permit locks have long ago been found an have thousands of systems around them mapped no brain trees around any other permits for any other large guardian zones. We have the small zones centred around nebula. We aka me and some other curious people pulled a full nebula list cross checked it with spansh and every single nebula in the galaxy that has enough star density to have hundreds or thousands of stars has hundreds if not thousands of mapped systems within 200ly. We can at this stage be fairly confident that there are no unknown brain tree spheres around any permit lock or nebula in the galaxy. The guardian sites that are not within the brain tree spheres were all located through FDev narrative and there's no hanging narrative. Leading us to the conclusion that at this stage your chances of finding anything unknown and guardian are statistically bad. There's still a lot of galaxy out there but the stuff that follows the same rules that we've seen has been checked rather well through the years by multiple people. It's a big galaxy so there are markers to indicate to the players to go dig deeper and we can't find more.
 
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