There are no "busy" systems anymore. Everyone left for solo, you are lucky to meet a max of 3-4 players in once place.
PvE players are not the problem, FD's decision to split the players apart is
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There are no "busy" systems anymore. Everyone left for solo, you are lucky to meet a max of 3-4 players in once place.
I went to the busy systems, they're as empty as the rest of the universe.
Game has been reduced to invite only.
Robert Maynard
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Especially given that solo online, private groups and open online (with the ability to switch between them at will) were part of the original Kickstarter pitch from the very beginning (offline was added about half-way through).
Snakebite
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Even the most 'busy' systems are generally empty
Ya i agree it kinda sucks now, honestly idk i guess it will be back to EVE for me soon
You people just dumb down everyone opposing solo to some pvper. seriously? There is NO incentive to pvp in this game besides piracy and even that aspect is gimped down. PVP earns you huge bounties and doesn't give much in return, also shooting most players isn't that different from shooting npcs. That is not the points people who support no solo are trying to get across here.
Robert Maynard
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Descending to a new low if the continence of players is being questioned....
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Those bounties are exactly the reason that PvP is rewarding - for bounty hunters....
You didn't get one?
Ya well ED made me this way
Snakebite
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I've spent quite a bit of time on these forums and i've not once seen anyone telling anyone else 'how to play', I have seen a lot of very robust arguments for scraping the solo mode and having everyone play in the full multiplayer game but that is not quite the same thing as telling them 'how to play'.
Either it gets removed or the game is 100% guaranteed to die a quick death, simple as that honestly. There is not enough "npc" gameplay to warrant playing this game solo for long. Players were the only thing that was keeping this game alive. And since more and more people will leave once solo lack of game gets boring, more and more people will not buy the game as nobody is recommending it, changes to the game will eventually mean nothing, and with less and less funding FD will be even slower to implement changes.
You wanna refute that? I guess you could but I think most people know it to be true, whether they admit it or not.
Ill take your word for it, you seem to be an expert on the subject.
Itll die... DIE I TELL YOU! Time for the doom song again!
Try and read this slowly so you have a chance of understanding. Elite and Frontier have survived as a single player game for 30 years. Its not going anywhere. If there were enough people that cared to play the game the way you do to kill the game by leaving, we wouldnt be having this discussion because Open wouldnt be so empty. This horde of players that is going to kill the game by leaving it wouldnt be leaving it because if they actually existed you wouldnt have a problem finding them.
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Snakebite
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Right now its only my imagination that is keeping me playing, that and the fact that I have waited 30 years to play in a multiplayer elite game....
I really hope you are wrong, I still have faith that FD can pull this one together but what you say is definately possible...... All those chicken poo truckers in solo and pve groups will surely get bored hauling cheese from Lave to Diso but by the time that they do the rest of us may well have left anyway.....
Robert Maynard
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If the game relied on the subscriptions of pro-PvP players - maybe. As the game does not rely on subscriptions at all - not so much. The game has only been on release for a fortnight - expecting it to "die a quick death" does seem a bit melodramatic (especially as many players have been waiting for thirty years for a sequel to the original that followed the same principles).
Im wondering if dabba ever even played the game or if hes just here to try and discredit other peoples opinions? -1 rep for him
I'll throw my two cents in here because I can. I played the original. I play ED. I personally thin that we should get rid of solo and private mode. Make everyone play in open and allow those that do not want to PvP to designate themselves as such.
inprove the "group" mechanics to more of a "guild/fleet" format. Improve the cross player communication.
Very simple. Don't PvP if you don't want and everyone together in open play. One big happy family. The end.
inprove the "group" mechanics to more of a "guild/fleet" format. Improve the cross player communication.
Very simple. Don't PvP if you don't want and everyone together in open play. One big happy family. The end.
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If open is a empty as people claim (which isn't entirely proven since there are threads where people are crying about playing open and being attacked), it would indeed indicate that the PvE community is much larger than the PvP community, and therefore FD will probably take note of this and make some changes.
Those changes could be various.
1) They could create an official Open PvE mode to compliment an Open PvP mode.
2) Do something about PvP that means PvEers do not need to worry about being attacked if they play open. For example, a PvP choice which you can only select once on your profile or at least once per session.
3) Just forget about the PvP aspect and focus on keeping the PvE crowd happy
4) Some might say (like has been proposed here and elsewhere) that they should force everyone to play open... but those who suggested it really do not understand what they are asking for here. All i say to that is remember what happened with offline mode, and that was prior to release. Removing solo after release... nope, FD are not suicidal.
I do not think any of the above will happen, although i do hope for the official PvE mode, it would save many of us having to apply for group membership and for Mobius having to constantly accept join requests.
Those changes could be various.
1) They could create an official Open PvE mode to compliment an Open PvP mode.
2) Do something about PvP that means PvEers do not need to worry about being attacked if they play open. For example, a PvP choice which you can only select once on your profile or at least once per session.
3) Just forget about the PvP aspect and focus on keeping the PvE crowd happy
4) Some might say (like has been proposed here and elsewhere) that they should force everyone to play open... but those who suggested it really do not understand what they are asking for here. All i say to that is remember what happened with offline mode, and that was prior to release. Removing solo after release... nope, FD are not suicidal.
I do not think any of the above will happen, although i do hope for the official PvE mode, it would save many of us having to apply for group membership and for Mobius having to constantly accept join requests.
I'm just replying to this so it gets stored in my Forum Activity. I'll re-post it a year from now so the players that are here then, you not being one of them of course, can roll their eyes in wonder at the arrogance of a "100% guaranteed death" thread
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