To admit that, would be to admit defeat. We will not surrender Ngadjal to the forces of apathy, good sir! We will never surrender!
Well, I mean, technically we've already given up, but that's not quite the same as surrendering, you know?
The Revolutionary Jotunheim Resistance and the Ngadjal Situation - A plea for help from Frontier
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To admit that, would be to admit defeat. We will not surrender Ngadjal to the forces of apathy, good sir! We will never surrender!
Well, I mean, technically we've already given up, but that's not quite the same as surrendering, you know?
Are you guys doing any trading? That was what we missed in Lugh! Trade hard with your faction supported stations. If you do not have faction supported stations the road is definitely arduous as you will have to increase the faction % by running only missions..then gettting a civil war to flip a station. Good luck! PM me if you need more information!
Currently the cooldown iis 25 days...on the 26th you will be able to have another civil war queue. This is going to be shortened, Soon.
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Devs arent going to comment here because honestly any response would just make them look bad.
this is a never ending beta!
Continue to defend the broken game, Elite needs it!
So, he gives you places to look to try to figure out what might be occurring, agrees it sounds like a bug, and you attack him for....yeah. He's not defending it, he's trying to help you guys out. Play as you want. Good luck.
Expanded faction, so trading isn't possible.
You don't have better things to do than be a troll in every thread you post something?
If it says anything, I appreciated the suggestion to message Brooks directly, and even though his post was contentless it reminded me to do so, so hopefully I'll hear back.
Ok.. you expanded into the system and have no station? That's a hard row to hoe. You are currently in a 25 day cool down before you can incite a civil war in the new system...that's IF you do not incite a civil war in your home system before this one. Only one state is available to each minor faction, regardless of the number of systems you are in. If you create a boom in your home system, it will show up as a boom in the new system...without the goodies related to the faction in the new system..oh and you are then on a 25 day cooldown for the boom also.
If you cannot do trading, you will only move the faction % by small %'s by doing missions. You have to be real careful in choosing your missions, any mission that drops influence needs to be immediately stopped. You will have to make a lits of approved missions to keep your players aware of what to do. I can tell you that you want to only do slave missions that are freeing slaves and outgoing trade missions. Just check the influence arrow for your faction. If it is red and going down..announce that mission title as a no go mission.
Here's the other issue we are pretty certain of...Your faction needs wealth to provide missions. That's why trade is so important. Check if there are trade missions specifically in the home system that would be directed at the faction within the new system. Should help some with that. I would also look at trying to sabotage the new systems 'overlords', bringing all of their faction down and hopefully lining them up for a civil war with each other, unless they are in cooldown...or you guys after the cooldown.
You guys have a long road before you, as you will have to flip a station to gain a foothold within the new system. Good luck.
This is exactly what we've done, to no effect. Unfortunately. You'd think a few hundred well-disciplined players running missions would be able to at least stop influence from decreasing, but it doesn't seem to be so. I myself have run several hundred trade missions for them in a few days and always the same 0.1% influence drop.
If it says anything, I appreciated the suggestion to message Brooks directly, and even though his post was contentless it reminded me to do so, so hopefully I'll hear back.
I hope so to! This part of the game is more important than any other...and if it fails, well, the future is truly bleak. A lot of folks disagree, and I understand some of their points..but I've already stated a few times, that those that think this is impossible, should remain quiet and let those accomplishing the impossible do so.
Soon there will be no-one left even trying to accomplish the impossible.
I agree, you might have a bug. Document what you can (we use an online photo sharing site and link the screen shots to the forum). But keep in mind there could be other possibilities, including that people MIGHT be working against you (solo and private group have = outcomes in open..with the perceived 'goon influence' some are claiming, that would be enough for a few people to try to thwart your actions 'unfairly' behind the scenes), also keep in mind some of the trade runs have dual outcomes...which might give you a gain on your side, but a bigger loss on the other. The %'s are rounded so if you gain .05% on a run, giving a .075% gain to a competing faction within your system, you lost. Both will show a 1% increase for both outcomes, but the overall toll will be a loss to your bottom line.
Again, no one is whitewashing this system, particularly myself or _Flinn_. We understand your frustration and are trying to give you guys what information we have, as well as the little bit of first hand knowledge that we have received in the other threads. The background simulation has been broken, there are still serious issues that need to be addressed on some of the working mechanics, (the time gating feeling like it could be the most harmful), but the simulation is working a lot better now than it was 4-6 weeks ago..but it still has a way to go.
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I absolutely agree with you. The background simulation is important because it SHOULD be the reason for players to play together, making changes, enriching the galactic ecosystem, which increases the necessity for all the other roles to come out and play...no matter where in the game.
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I'd considered opposition action myself, but we kept it secret for a month until posting in this thread, I doubt anyone would have organized so perfect a resistance against so many (if one of the other factions had started skyrocketing this may have been true).
My God, they really went out of their way to make sure it was damn near impossible for us to influence the game, didn't they? Might as well have made a static game that every 25 days spun a random roulette wheel to choose a slight change in a system. If there were only a handful of systems in the game one might see a point in making so ridiculously hard, and convoluted to affect things, but with 400 billion systems it makes no sense.
No one system has any real value in this game, unless you have a personal attachment to it like it is you chosen home. The only effect it has is making you feel like little more than a spectator in this game. How can you feel like part of the universe when your action carry such little weight?
Not a thing you do in real life carries much weight either.