No, what I'm saying is that murder is explicitly allowed and that you don't have a single scrap of evidence to support your position of "murder is not allowed in stations."
Cheers.
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Cheers.
Well, not a single scrap of evidence except the Eula section 7.3
7.3 is a communication clause, not conduct.
Nothing to do with station camping. If the dude was spamming racist slurs wile murdering everyone, then it would be a different story.
Literal straw-man argument.
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Actually it clearly says Communication, conduct and behavior, if you read it carefully.
And straw man argument is something completely different.
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It's easy to fix this (assuming no external hacks are used).
You get rid of SCB's then if you deploy hardpoints inside a station, you lose docking rights (you have to exit the station the same as if you went in without permission). If you dont put hardpoints away within 5 seconds, or exit the station in the allotted time then station defenses kick in.
Also, shooting a ship, player or otherwise, inside the no fire zone of a station should reduce your faction standing (major faction standing). The amount it is reduced depends on the standing of who you shot. If they were allied then you become hostile. If they're not allied, you become unfriendly. Wanted or clean doesn't matter in this situation.
This should put an end to this kind of behavior.
You get rid of SCB's then if you deploy hardpoints inside a station, you lose docking rights (you have to exit the station the same as if you went in without permission). If you dont put hardpoints away within 5 seconds, or exit the station in the allotted time then station defenses kick in.
Also, shooting a ship, player or otherwise, inside the no fire zone of a station should reduce your faction standing (major faction standing). The amount it is reduced depends on the standing of who you shot. If they were allied then you become hostile. If they're not allied, you become unfriendly. Wanted or clean doesn't matter in this situation.
This should put an end to this kind of behavior.
And murder is a completely sanctioned behavior (source).
But keep up the straw man. I'm sure what there is of Fdev's customer service appreciates having to close all of your tickets over and over and over.
If you read it carefully, it clearly states its intent. Here I'll even quote the section.
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Your entire argument is stretching what is viewed as "Harassment".
As a mater of fact, I view your posts as borderline Harassment. Looks like you are violating the ELU.
Oh wait, I can avoid your posts by visiting other sections of the site. Same with players, go to solo to avoid it.
I'm just stating the obvious - sociopatic behavior is the only reason you would engage in Elite Dangerous PvP (and in most open world non-consensual PvP in other games).
The key to this is not only in dealing with the ship in the station.
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Repeat offenses within a certain time period should be subject to ever and exponentially increasing fines until the subject can no longer realistically re spawn at that station (or factions station) without incurring massive cash losses.
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Take their money, take their ship - but within the game lore.
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Repeat offenses within a certain time period should be subject to ever and exponentially increasing fines until the subject can no longer realistically re spawn at that station (or factions station) without incurring massive cash losses.
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Take their money, take their ship - but within the game lore.
Ah, the root of the argument. It rears its head.
Notify me when there are other ways to interact with players outside of basic communication and luck of the draw cooperation.
In a game sense it is legitimate until they change the stations to be more lethal.
Wow - that's some pretty low stuff right there.
The use of the word resourceful is, interesting.
Wrong. By joining open, you are consenting to all possible interaction with other players. So while it may not be what you would like to happen, if you get into a scrap in open, you have consented to do so. Now if you somehow got into a fight with a player in a mode that states such interactions wont happen, like in Solo, then you can say it was non-consensual pvp. Everything in between those extremes is why there is a third option.
This thread is not about any of that though. This thread is about players able to do things in the game due to improper balancing and possibly using modules that shouldn't exist in the first place in ways that they weren't intended to be used. This has nothing to do with player behavior and everything to do with the functionality and mechanics of the tools given to players to use.
Whilst I don't condone your actions you are absolutely correct.
(pinning a playing against the wall - made me smile - does that make me a bad man too ?)
Depends on your point of view. That kind of death is definitely a death without honor though. His spirit will not join his ancestors.
that aside,
colliding with other ships inside the station should technically be treated as a docking procedure in-fracture with the appropriate deadly response behavior going into effect against the ship in motion on third strike or so.
Proper procedure when in a collision would be to all-stop first, then move away from the other ship to a safe distance.
Piracy is a perfectly valid, non sociopathic path to take to engage in elite PVP.
This is a good idea, but still if peeps want to shoot in stations let them do it, just increase the penalties, so it makes it painful for all concerned
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