Xbone dumbing down in the background (simulation) has started

It was a tax on fuel based on the size of the craft, there was even a GalNet news article on it along with the release of fuel scoops.
That was easy, landing fees included in fuel costs.

I was agreeing on this not being dumbed down, apparently comedy is still hard on the internets. :D Didn't realize FD had ingamed their previous reasoning.
 
I don't see the current price drop as "dumbing down" it's more a reflection of how fuel scoops have changed the playing field... Not sure why you're so angry at consoles though, the worst thing they're responsible for is Nintendo-thumb, "dumbing down" is an incredibly dumb phrase.
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I think fuel costs should vary depending on how far from a scoop-able star the station is, that would make better in-game sense to me.
 
He's right you know, I've actually become younger since I played this game. I swear I was JUST 31 but I was carded at the bar recently. The obvious answer is I'm now 18 again. Thank you Frontier!!
 
Hey maaaan, other people had to SUFFER to get where they are. Instead of fixing the things that made people suffer, we should honour said suffering by making sure the next guys coming along also suffer. That's fair and just and good for the game.

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To be honest there's a little bit of that. "We grinded, why shouldn't you".

And also a little bit of please, do not fall on the current "I want, I get, next" problem of our age. I like long games, that reward involvment. I hoped ED was something like that, it sure looked like that when you began to space truck things... omg... this will be long.

Getting everything to easily is not fun. Refuel and repair are basically nothing now. Might as well remove the function and just "repair/refuel over time". Well, whatever.
 
Even if only one twelve year old XBox owner were to join this forum, they'd likely double the apparent mental age of the community here of late..
 
They said it wouldn't, never believed it for 1 minute...
Fuel prices slashed to a ridiculous amount, repair costs made redundant, ship prices lowered for instant gratification...All immediately after the Console announcement...A coincidence? maybe, personally ive seen it all before...Take World Of Warcraft, on release an awesome challenging game...Activision buys Blizz out and the dumbing down for the epeens starts...Now you can get from 1-100 without losing any health or breaking a sweat, completely different game...


You just have tot ake a minute to enjoy the spectacular irony on display here, Wow, challenging.... it was dumbed down copy of EQ to start with it, no real death penalty, no xp loss no chance of loosing your entire gear set, quests to speed up leveling which took a fraction of the time, food and drink that could heal you to max in 30 seconds! an initial raid you just needed the brains to know standing in fire was bad to beat...

you see riprock the irony is you are the scrub your complaining about.
 
Again this has nothing to do with what other players do, what they have and how they get it...Nor is it a PC elitist console war debate, I play the PS4 all the time, love it to bits...

Xbone funding is very much welcomed, obviously means more money for further development...I let two of my kids aged 10 & 14 have a go on ED, after 5 minutes they where bored out there minds, went back to Far Cry and COD ghosts...In its current state ED will not sell to the majority of console gamers, you havn't got to be Einstein to see that...
Dumbing down is going to happen, whats next Repair re-gen and weapon unlocks, maybe chuck in a few achievements...
 
So a couple of hundred credits to refuel an Anaconda to the brim after making over 3 million in profit from that tank of fuel doesn't seem like dumbing down to you?

That's an insane price reduction

Or may be the ships were overpriced? E.g. FDL is no good in anything, limited range makes it not suited for exploration and bounty hunting, power limitations left a very limited choice of the equipment. And that's for 100M Cr? What is Federal Dropship good at? It has average speed, weak shields that are taken out in a matter of seconds and after the shields are down it is not that difficult to take out its power plant, max cargo capacity without shields 164t, which is far less than a Type 7 can offer for 17M Cr, a Clipper for 23M Cr. The only advantage that it has is the ability to land at the outposts. And that's for 37M Cr? Don't you think that this ship was way overpriced as well? Is Vulture's price of 21.5 M Cr justified (it's price was almost the same as the price of the Clipper), however it's only role is a fighter.
 
I was agreeing on this not being dumbed down, apparently comedy is still hard on the internets. :D Didn't realize FD had ingamed their previous reasoning.

Apologise Tarman my rant was in no way directed at you.

I just find it incredulous that those the crow their superiority do so by lambasting others as inferior, and all over a choice of electonic entertainment.

What ever arguements one could make over open archetichture being superior and such, none of it translates of any inherit superiority or inferiortiy in the end user, and I find it laughable, in the most depressing sense, that there is a buy in by people claiming they, and only they, are capable of complex thought.
So one has built their custom PC, at the end of the day, one has assembled prefabricated parts that fit in standardised ports and have wonderful PnP built in.
Smorgasbord or À la carte; someone else did all the cooking
 
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Or may be the ships were overpriced? E.g. FDL is no good in anything, limited range makes it not suited for exploration and bounty hunting, power limitations left a very limited choice of the equipment. And that's for 100M Cr? What is Federal Dropship good at? It has average speed, weak shields that are taken out in a matter of seconds and after the shields are down it is not that difficult to take out its power plant, max cargo capacity without shields 164t, which is far less than a Type 7 can offer for 17M Cr, a Clipper for 23M Cr. The only advantage that it has is the ability to land at the outposts. And that's for 37M Cr? Don't you think that this ship was way overpriced as well? Is Vulture's price of 21.5 M Cr justified (it's price was almost the same as the price of the Clipper), however it's only role is a fighter.

The dropship, lets face it is good for nothing, you could drop the price to 10m cr and no-one would buy it...
Instead of drastic price cuts how about they actually buff the ships so they warranted there original purchase cost?...
That to me seems the logical way to go...
As for fuel, it now means nothing, might as well make it regen over time and save the button click, ooops shouldn't of suggested that.
 
The dropship, lets face it is good for nothing, you could drop the price to 10m cr and no-one would buy it...
Instead of drastic price cuts how about they actually buff the ships so they warranted there original purchase cost?...
That to me seems the logical way to go...
As for fuel, it now means nothing, might as well make it regen over time and save the button click, ooops shouldn't of suggested that.

OR

Fueling is now a properly flattened stage on which to build a more complex and sensible fueling system, with actual quality grades and kit effects, so that fuel prices would have a real purpose other than a gamey money sink based purely on the frame you're running.

As far as the price drops, that's so people playing can actually fly something other than a Cobra within their allotted lifespan without tradegrinding their faces off. Combat pilots aren't in it for trade in the first place, so making them trade a whole lot to get the ships they don't trade in is silly from a gameplay concept perspective. The ships don't need to be made to justify their cost if their cost is what's out of scale, and now they're more affordable for more enjoyable pewing for those so inclined to the pew.
 
Mention game is getting console port and forums go to hell. Ohh well...

Please calm down. Price nerfs, combat pay increases - nothing to do with consoles, everything to do combat more comparable income wise. No need to go nuts. Have fun out there! :)

Exactly this. There's nothing sinister in the price fluctuations going on. Ideally, all of this balancing should have been done prior to release to prevent people feeling hard done by and demanding (in-game) refunds every time something changes, but we are where we are. Watch GalNet for a news article next week where the Federation admits that 'Flooding the market with combat capable ships may not have been a bright idea". :)
 
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