Did you agree to in-game advertising?
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The pro-marketing types apparently want us to suspend our disbelief to a cult-like, Jim Jones level, just to get the attention of all those ABC1 eyeballs that are playing this game.
According to the fiction the marketers want to foist upon us, there have apparently been no technological advances, cultural shifts, mergers and acquisitions, unexpected recession casualties, new competitors, legal obstructions, environmental disasters, corporate crimes, or any other event in the intervening millenium to halt the inexorable rise of MB Games or Snapple or any other modern product that is a brand equivalent of all those 1980s wigs in the original Star Trek movies - i.e. making the setting look dated as soon as you see them.
We all want a believable environment. I just don't want a few 1000yr+ old names from one planet ubiquitous across the galaxy. Sorry, I don't buy it as a premise. Now, if those well-known marques were a drop in an ocean of competing in-fiction brands and corporations, I probably wouldn't have as much of a problem with accepting advertising. However, I can't see real advertisers being happy to compete for our attention with millions of fictional businesses.
It therefore follows that, if real-world advertising does become a part of the fiction, we'll see the same thing we always see in old games and bad movies where everyone will drink the same Kool-Aid. And, as a result, any immersion will suffer the same fate as Jonestown.
And if the real-world brands always happened to get the prime advertising real estate, it would be just as dumb as if the fictional brands weren't included at all.
According to the fiction the marketers want to foist upon us, there have apparently been no technological advances, cultural shifts, mergers and acquisitions, unexpected recession casualties, new competitors, legal obstructions, environmental disasters, corporate crimes, or any other event in the intervening millenium to halt the inexorable rise of MB Games or Snapple or any other modern product that is a brand equivalent of all those 1980s wigs in the original Star Trek movies - i.e. making the setting look dated as soon as you see them.
We all want a believable environment. I just don't want a few 1000yr+ old names from one planet ubiquitous across the galaxy. Sorry, I don't buy it as a premise. Now, if those well-known marques were a drop in an ocean of competing in-fiction brands and corporations, I probably wouldn't have as much of a problem with accepting advertising. However, I can't see real advertisers being happy to compete for our attention with millions of fictional businesses.
It therefore follows that, if real-world advertising does become a part of the fiction, we'll see the same thing we always see in old games and bad movies where everyone will drink the same Kool-Aid. And, as a result, any immersion will suffer the same fate as Jonestown.
And if the real-world brands always happened to get the prime advertising real estate, it would be just as dumb as if the fictional brands weren't included at all.
Wings is out and we've not had a major update for a couple of weeks so let the witch hunt begin!
Seriously though, FD decide to give away 5 Titans and put one tiny galnet story out which I'm sure half the player base don't read anyway and everyone loses their minds. You'd think every station suddenly had a huge billboard advertising Doritos and Mountain Dew . . .
Seriously though, FD decide to give away 5 Titans and put one tiny galnet story out which I'm sure half the player base don't read anyway and everyone loses their minds. You'd think every station suddenly had a huge billboard advertising Doritos and Mountain Dew . . .
Yes, I totally agree with the ToC that I was supposed to read before I play any game. Of course I agree to being able to enter promotions and sweepstakes!
Yes I did agree. They came into my office and asked if I consent to in game advertising, to which I think I said 'yes yes, who the hell cares, please I have more important matters to deal with, can you please leave'
The question isn't that simple. If you take the example of Blade Runner I would absolutely love stuff like that in game, I wouldn't even mind if it was things like ultra-modern Coke or McD's adverts (they could still be going in the future). But imagine if Blade Runner featured in-film trailers for other 1992 Warner Bros films or promotions for a new Vangelis album? That would be horrible. The latter is what FD have done with the NVIDIA thing.
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Well as I see it - the reason we have these advertisements (or this advertisement) isn't because of any reason FD would come up with on their own, it is because it is part of an advertisement done by another company in FD's game.
That is really a pretty bad thing in every way conceivable. It would, in my opinion, be less bad if it was atleast decently covered up in the flavor text, but it's still the same thing, really.
FD aren't giving away any Titans.
How exactly is "ingame Advertising" be it Fictional, Ship manufactures logos in stations, effecting game play other than at a aesthetic level or real "The Black titan" competition, which you have a personal choice to participate yourself or not. As to the aesthetic I have some faith that the developers and designers artistic direction, would only include products fictional or real that fitted into the core artistic design...
Who wont want to see, more detailing say on the stations interiors or cargo cannisters, and with the debug camera now available, ship skins. As to the use of real advertising, again I do have some faith that Federation are not either idiots, or dont care about their IPO, so if they have other companies approach them with the same ideas as Nvida, and they can incorporate it into the game in a way that does not alter the core game mechanic then again so what. What they have done with the Titan black is both clever and hopefully profitable.
As to the changes in the EULA, what company does not change its EULA from time to time, and if we are to be honest how many people bother to read them particularly with games.
However as with some of your other posts I have read, including the one that have been deleted, you seem to want to find any little thing to complain about Frontiers business model rather than the game aesthetic. Agenda Much?
Indeed and why can I see those that screamed loudest against a competition to win something, will win one
Although I find the OP a bit whiny, the second I see a political ad in a game I will both uninstall the game and become 3x as whiny as he is. I will then rage quite with a angrily worded forum essay and burn the developers in effigy in my back yard. I'm not kidding, I will have a TON of extra freetime at that point.
@OP
Put it this way, i don't see anything in that EULA that would explicitly prevent FD from placing in-game advertisement.
I also don't see any grounds from which to protest it, if they chose to do so, other than one's personal opinion.
Perhaps that bit was removed from the previous EULA version, because it really wasn't needed from a legal point of view ?
Put it this way, i don't see anything in that EULA that would explicitly prevent FD from placing in-game advertisement.
I also don't see any grounds from which to protest it, if they chose to do so, other than one's personal opinion.
Perhaps that bit was removed from the previous EULA version, because it really wasn't needed from a legal point of view ?
Yeah, we all lost our minds.
I thought this was meant to be a debate on the wider issue of advertising in the game. Was that not the case? If it is, then ignoring any points made like you just did and trying to paint any opposing POV as a direct reaction to one event (even if recent) seems like a tactic to trivialise and ultimately shut down said debate.
Yeah, I don't think so.
As long as I don't get interrupted in super-cruise by "A Word From Our Sponsor..." I could care less.
Though.... maybe if I was able to earn credit per hour by having a Pepsi logo on the side of my ship....
It'd be like Nascar in Spaaaaaccccceeee.....!
LOL! JK.. This seems like another huge non-issue for internet warriors to get their panties in a twist about.
Though.... maybe if I was able to earn credit per hour by having a Pepsi logo on the side of my ship....
It'd be like Nascar in Spaaaaaccccceeee.....!
LOL! JK.. This seems like another huge non-issue for internet warriors to get their panties in a twist about.
The "ignore the debate and cast others as hysterical" meta game is strong with others....
MUST. BUY. LAKON
and 143 votes at the time of this post probably falls in the margin of error of the actual community.
People dont read, just have a look at the bug report form and the ratio of posts that include the required template and posts that dont.
Sorry, but how do you find the "OP a bit whiny" ?
He asks a 2 choice question and posts the current EULA, he doesn't even state his own opinion about in-game advertisement.
And, by the way, the question wasn't "are you for or against in-game advertisement ?", but of course, that's what the debate immediately turned into.
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