Victims of Piracy Support Group

[SeregDuin]

I love the "underlying personality" bull crap that keeps getting spouted by Solo and Mobius players.

This is a game, it has a huge element of role play.

Majinvash is a giant space and proud of that fact. Doesn't mean that I hold up old ladies or kick puppies in the face in real life.. ( I don't like dogs.. but that is entirely my person choice. )

Now as a mirror reverse.. This may hold true for scared traders or victims?. Are they really weak willed individuals, who would rather hide or cry about a part of the game THEY have access to but don't like?
Because it is easier to do that, rather than get better or just avoid dangerous areas ( Oh but we don't want to .. we have equal rights.. waa waa waa, You're a griefer )

With the bounties on my head from pirating and killing commanders, I should be running scared right now and worried about showing my face in any system.
But you know what.. I'm not, because I know how to play the game and worked hard to get here ( Shocker, piracy doesn't make a whole lot of money ) .
If and when I die.. I will carry on.. and this will never stop.

A bunch of Mobius commanders are spouting how they are going to hunt me down.... I would love them to.. I deserve it.. but I know that will never happen because they wont leave their little bubble of protection. "Cos Open AM scary and I might lose some of my MILLIONS of credits. zzzz"

I've had people report me in game, for interdicting them, requesting cargo and then killing them when they refuse or run. <-- Now with that logic, they should be doing that to EVERY NPC that happens upon them as well.
But they don't because NPC are a cake walk and they are unable or unwilling to become stronger or smarter. Or better yet, accept they are not as good as they think they are.

All these greedy traders, should have enough money to re-buy their ships a hundred times over. Yet cry and complain when they get offered a way out and decide not to take it.

By some of their logic, If they got mugged in real life, they would stab themselves in the face rather than hand over their wallet. You know cos Moral Victory and all that.....

Everyone in this game has the same options and ways to make money.

Right.. I am off out to punch a baby and maybe steal from a charity box.

Majinvash

I think you may have stumbled into the wrong thread . This has nothing to do with Mobius, solo or you. Maybe tuck your ego back in your pants and you might be able to see where you are going.

 

[Globusdiablo]

...None of that happens in Elite at the moment, and I'm not really advocating a solution just highlighting the problem. Personally I'm not even sure if there is a fix....

We can agree on that much buddy.

Please don't reference to a completely different game as a benchmark. It belittles your integrity (at least for me it does). The other game you mention can in no way be compared to this one, other than the space theme. Apart from that I find your arguments solid.

I think you may have stumbled into the wrong thread . This has nothing to do with Mobius, solo or you. Maybe tuck your ego back in your pants and you might be able to see where you are going.

[video=youtube;UJS3a20rUVM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJS3a20rUVM[/video]

 

[scorpyon]

Yes that is exactly it .Only one person actually got what I was saying.
I really am a bad writer.

Don't feel too bad, matey.
I posted a story about an NPC that I was chasing around a Res site and my thread got deleted for "naming".
(Though happily, after writing a letter of complaint, my thread got reinstated as it was deemed that no infraction of the rules occurred. Yay!
Turns out that communication is alive and well on the EDF after all! )

I, too, understand the pain of your post being "misunderstood".

 

[FuzzySpider]

You know what I mean Simi. Where in Elite: Dangerous' marketing does it say: Come join the awesomest PvP free for all frag fest? Nowhere. And if it did, I wouldn't be playing this game.

No, what it actually said was:

Some may know you as an ally; others will call you a pirate, a bounty hunter, a smuggler, an explorer, an assassin, a hero... Fly alone or with friends, fight for a cause or go it alone; your actions change the galaxy around you in an ever unfolding story.

What it didn't say was:

Welcome to Euro Truck simulator 3015.

Piracy, bounty hunting and the like are not just choices, they are an absolute integral part of the Elite experience and have been since 1984.

It's easy for me to sit here and judge though. I've mostly traded around the core empire worlds and I've been pirated exactly zero times (unless you count NPCs). It does seem that human pirates are keeping away from those areas, at least at the moment, so I don't know why more traders don't head into the core.

 

[Majinvash]

I think you may have stumbled into the wrong thread . This has nothing to do with Mobius, solo or you. Maybe tuck your ego back in your pants and you might be able to see where you are going.

No no, if you actually read it. It clearly references a statement made within this thread.

I then elaborated on the flip side of the coin and used myself as a reference.

I am also currently not wearing pants.

 

[Globusdiablo]

....It's easy for me to sit here and judge though. I've mostly traded around the core empire worlds and I've been pirated exactly zero times (unless you count NPCs). It does seem that human pirates are keeping away from those areas, at least at the moment, so I don't know why more traders don't head into the core.

If you get bored, visit Leesti in your truck.

 

[Anopheles]

@ Majinvash - I took note of your name while I was playing last night...I'll be keeping an eye out for you in Open..

And The Code will certainly take a note of yours.

 

[ClymAngus]

Everyone in this game has the same options and ways to make money.

Right.. I am off out to punch a baby and maybe steal from a charity box.

Majinvash

Your being evasive. Your throwing in extreme examples to "smoke screen" your personal desires. And your using acting as an excuse. Acting is a defined role which you chose. Why choose that role? Does it make you feel free? How does it free you? From what?

Can you remember at what point you started gaining pleasure from the distress of others?

Would you say your work life is fulfilling?

The point is you gain pleasure from playing this game in this way. Question is "why".

 

[Anopheles]

Your being evasive. Your throwing in extreme examples to "smoke screen" your personal desires. And your using acting as an excuse. Acting is a defined role which you chose. Why choose that role? Does it make you feel free? How does it free you? From what?

Can you remember at what point you started gaining pleasure from the distress of others?

Would you say your work life is fulfilling?

The point is you gain pleasure from playing this game in this way. Question is "why".

I had this amusing notion that this was a forum for discussing things relating to Elite Dangerous. If I'd realised it was a psychotherapist's office, I'd have put on my slip on shoes.

Edit; You'd have a ball at an actual role-playing game. After several people, using diagrams, had tried and failed to explain the concept.

 

[Globusdiablo]

And The Code will certainly take a note of yours.

He's one of yours? LOL. Well that just says it all. Doesn't it?

 

[Anopheles]

He's one of yours? LOL. Well that just says it all. Doesn't it?

We take all sorts. He abides by The Code, obeys orders when orders are necessary and is a nice guy on TS. I am a shepherd of trade ships, not the consciences of men. We are a pirate crew, not a church choir, nor even a navy.

 

[Majinvash]

Evasive.. Really?

My personal desire is to play Elite.

In the early days, various career roles were mentioned, Trader, Explorer, Miner, Bounty Hunter, Criminal.

I choose crime.

And I mean to be the best damn criminal I can be. Like in life.. Go big or go home!

Now we are playing Phych 101 and real world fulfilment. What sort of person plays space trucker?
If that is a way to find excitement or unwind.. Imagine how empty their life must be?

I make a huge amount of money in real life and have very littles cares. I also spend about 2 months a year, carefree and snowboarding.

 

[ClymAngus]

I had this amusing notion that this was a forum for discussing things relating to Elite Dangerous. If I'd realised it was a psychotherapist's office, I'd have put on my slip on shoes.

Edit; You'd have a ball at an actual role-playing game. After several people, using diagrams, had tried and failed to explain the concept.

Played them from an early age sir. I love paranoia. It teaches people to understand and work with futility. Games have a lot to teach us about the nature of ourselves. I love the smell of Cognitive therapy in the morning. It smells like progress....

 

[Globusdiablo]

Evasive.. Really?

My personal desire is to play Elite.

In the early days, various career roles were mentioned, Trader, Explorer, Miner, Bounty Hunter, Criminal.

I choose crime.

And I mean to be the best damn criminal I can be. Like in life.. Go big or go home!

Now we are playing Phych 101 and real world fulfilment. What sort of person plays space trucker?
If that is a way to find excitement or unwind.. Imagine how empty their life must be?

I make a huge amount of money in real life and have very littles cares. I also spend about 2 months a year, carefree and snowboarding.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ic1YLkpl1Do/hqdefault.jpg

I really shouldn't, but I feel compelled.

[video=youtube;FClAikNoJ2I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClAikNoJ2I[/video]

 

[Anopheles]

snowboarding.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ic1YLkpl1Do/hqdefault.jpg

You never told me you're a snowboarder. I am tolerant of many things, but winter sports? A black spot for you, me boy.

 

[TheoC]

Executive:
You seem to be applying a double standard: you want to play a certain way (this is, of course, fine). Some players don't want to play the way that you want, and take differing steps to ensure that. So far, you have called them like so:
Solo/group="cowards"
Non-compliants="### who break immersion because dying should have consequences and traders should value their pretend life more than they value their pretend cargo"

So basically you are whining because some players don't want to play the same game as you, and also whining because other players play in a way, and I cannot emphasize this enough, does not maximize YOUR profits at THEIR expense.
Hypocrite.

Majinvash:
You also make the point that a logical person would rather live than die over £10. Well, duh. But in a pretend game, where (as someone mentioned already) neither death OR piracy/murder has any consequence, I will prefer to take a full cargo hit just to deny you any profit, than just roll over and play the way you want me to as you chuckle to yourself about how you're the wolf among the sheep or whatever it is you like to fantasize about when you're not at your 9-5.
That's just how I choose to play, because it's not about the money, to me, but about retaliating in the most effective way the game allows me to against you, who chose to attack me. Just part of the game.

If I were to use your own argument, I would tell you to go play eve or switch to trading since, as soon as you don't make any money, suddenly it's no longer an "exciting player interaction" but "some crazy person who would rather lose 1m cr than give me 300k".

Just play whatever way you like, just don't expect people to play the way you want them to, or to respect you if you pirate...

 

[ClymAngus]

Evasive.. Really?

I make a huge amount of money in real life and have very littles cares. I also spend about 2 months a year, carefree and snowboarding.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ic1YLkpl1Do/hqdefault.jpg

Well you certainly seem successful by many measures that people use to gauge such things. So it stands to reason that you must be exceptionally happy with life as it's currently going? You are happy aren't you?

Would you consider yourself a "driven" person?

If you feel uncomfortable answering I will understand. We are somewhat off topic here.

 

[Anopheles]

Executive:
You seem to be applying a double standard: you want to play a certain way (this is, of course, fine). Some players don't want to play the way that you want, and take differing steps to ensure that. So far, you have called them like so:
Solo/group="cowards"
Non-compliants=### who break immersion because dying should have consequences and traders should value their pretend life more than they value their pretend cargo
So basically you are whining because some players don't want to play the same game as you, and also whining because other players play in a way, and I cannot emphasize this enough, does not maximize YOUR profits at THEIR expense.
Hypocrite.

Majinvash:
You also make the point that a logical person would rather live than die over £10. Well, duh. But in a pretend game, where (as someone mentioned already) neither death OR piracy/murder has any consequence, I will prefer to take a full cargo hit just to deny you any profit, than just roll over and play the way you want me to as you chuckle to yourself about how you're the wolf among the sheep or whatever it is you like to fantasize about when you're not at your 9-5. That's just how I choose to play, because it's not about the money, to me, but about retaliating in the most effective way the game allows me to against you. Just part of the game.

If I were to use your own argument, I would tell you to go play eve or switch to trading since as soon as you don't make any money suddenly it's no longer an "exciting player interaction" but "some crazy person who would rather lose 1m cr than give me 300k".

Just play whatever way you like, just don't expect people to play the way you want them to, or to respect you if you pirate...

But your position is nonsensical. Even if you want to punish the pirate, you punish yourself more. I don't want to sound like the stereotypical teacher, but it really is your own time you are wasting, since the Pirate has got the most enjoyable part of the process out of the way (Nobody pirates only for money). Also, you are missing on social interaction too, some of the people The Code robbed are our longest serving members.

If you want to cut your nose off to spite your face, feel free. Don't be surprised if people shake their head and chuckle at you doing it.

 

[SeregDuin]

No no, if you actually read it. It clearly references a statement made within this thread.

I then elaborated on the flip side of the coin and used myself as a reference.

I am also currently not wearing pants.

My mistake and Lol about the pants.

 

[TheoC]

But your position is nonsensical. Even if you want to punish the pirate, you punish yourself more. I don't want to sound like the stereotypical teacher, but it really is your own time you are wasting, since the Pirate has got the most enjoyable part of the process out of the way (Nobody pirates only for money). Also, you are missing on social interaction too, some of the people The Code robbed are our longest serving members.

If you want to cut your nose off to spite your face, feel free. Don't be surprised if people shake their head and chuckle at you doing it.

But it's not about the money. If it was, i would be in solo too. Like the OP, I have decided I don't like pirates so my choices include "run","fight","die" but not "give the pirate what he wants".
If you want to chuckle and shake your head at that, feel free--not like I have any respect for your views since they include "you should do what I want". As of now the interaction is better for me if I take my chances and run/die/kill you (I'm kitting out my python for that), possibly dying but definitely not *giving* you anything because you demanded it. If it is ever not, I will find the next thing that will be.

Of course, if you basically admitted that the enjoyment you receive is not getting the credits but the fact that you are costing me time, then eventually you will probably drive everyone to solo/groups and be stuck with your other pirate friends chuckling and saying "what cowards! So, uh, what do we do now?" Which is pretty much what any society does to disfunctional members: make it so they cannot affect it.

Majinvash: wow, boasting about how much you make on the internet? Good luck getting anyone to believe you anyway...