The Planetary landing and planetside missions discussion Thread
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Or it might end up somewhere in the middle like things usually do when two extremes are put against each other.
Personally im wondering how flight assist off mode will be in atmospheric flights
i expect barrel rolls, uncontrolled tumbles, and stalls
i expect barrel rolls, uncontrolled tumbles, and stalls
Why do we need to land on planets? Elite is a Space trading / combat game so why fill it with this nonsense? Spend the time making what it already is even better - that's what I'd say. I don't see how landing on planets will improve this game.
Personally im wondering how flight assist off mode will be in atmospheric flights
i expect barrel rolls, uncontrolled tumbles, and stalls
Technically we already have atmospheric flight in the game. Stations' interiors are pressurized.
Technically yeah thats true. But i imagine the aerodynamics between a zero g pressurized container, And open atmo mach speed flying whilst getting lift from speed, will feel drastically different
I think David Braben and the developers would disagree with you there....plus a good majority of players too.
Still, your point is valid, you yourself can't see how this would improve the game, while I respect your point of view, my own opinion is opposite to yours, I think briefly I would describe my point of view as this...having played the previous versions (FE 2 & FFE) landing on planets opens up the game to more interesting features, gameplay and objectives. Is that nonsense?
I can easily see in an imaginative way at the moment how this feature would enrich the whole experience of gameplay, especially if it's designed well. There again that's my own personal opinion, as is yours.
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I'll just let this man answer the question:
The Outsider took place down on the ground BTW...to bad it never got released. :/
[video=youtube;Glr71X-cr84]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glr71X-cr84[/video]
I think initially we should all be issued with parachutes, at least it's a start.
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Jack
Or it might end up somewhere in the middle like things usually do when two extremes are put against each other.
Considering how easy the rest of the game is, doubtful.
Very much agree with your thoughts on this phase of ED when it starts to near alpha stage in the not to distance future, as to the issues raised by some about the capability of the consoles as limiting this feature that is a unlikely, many PC players use console controllers already, so its will just be a case of those players referencing control binds as required, regardless of if it is PC or console.
There should definitely be some need to learn to adapt to planet flight though as the model should then be affected by a differing set of physics, I doubt it will be as realistic as you would find on a flight sim and I have no issue with that as this more game than simulation, I have some faith that the designers will achieve a reasonable balance, of skill vs danger .
If i want to have a realistic flight sim then i have FSX and Xplane for a more realistic plant flight model.
To be fair that quote is about 9 years old - still hope it happens though!!
Well, there are plenty of newer quotes referring to planetary landings in Elite: Dangerous specifically. My point with brining that up was to show that this way of looking at Elite as first and foremost a open world game rather than a "space sim" is hardly new.
Not much more complex no, I agree. People seem to have enough trouble with that anyway in the beginning.
There have however been talk about weather, turbulence, lightning and things of that nature that might create more things to take into consideration when entering planets/Gasgiants with atmosphere.
I think David Braben and the developers would disagree with you there....plus a good majority of players too.
Still, your point is valid, you yourself can't see how this would improve the game, while I respect your point of view, my own opinion is opposite to yours, I think briefly I would describe my point of view as this...having played the previous versions (FE 2 & FFE) landing on planets opens up the game to more interesting features, gameplay and objectives. Is that nonsense?
I can easily see in an imaginative way at the moment how this feature would enrich the whole experience of gameplay, especially if it's designed well. There again that's my own personal opinion, as is yours.
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Jack
I think the issue here is 'get really good at what you do best'. Of course we'd all like to fly around space, making money, combat etc, and then fly to a battle planet and play Halo or a Gold planet and play PGA - whatever - and have one game that can deliver it all - but I can't see that as being productive for what the game is best at. There are many improvements that can be (need to be) applied before we start introducing more mini games to a format that the most complete part has largely not changed since '84.
Do we honestly think Star Citizen will really deliver all they say they are going to? Hmm....
I don't want that for Elite.
Technically yeah thats true. But i imagine the aerodynamics between a zero g pressurized container, And open atmo mach speed flying whilst getting lift from speed, will feel drastically different
No way any ship in ED will be capable of generating lift. landings and flight will be pure brute force provided by thrusters.
well SOME of the ships look like they could be aerodynamic Lifting bodies,
might be different between ships like a conda or an eagle/dropship
Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wainfan_Facetmobile now tell me this flying body aircraft doesn't remind you shape wise of a cobra
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Or it might end up somewhere in the middle like things usually do when two extremes are put against each other.
Your reasonable arguments really are going against the spirit of these forums. Add more sweeping generalisation and hyperbole please.
Some people do, however I am not one of them: feature creep is running strong in SC. Fact that Chris, as usual, has troubles to control his wild imagination and to put his dreams down to realistic level certainly doesn't help.