Space is huge and you won't find the cool unknown things if you use the "honk once and only scan valuable planets nearby" strategy to scan as many systems as quickly as possible. if it takes months, then it takes month and that is part of the game that many people seem to miss. If that's not your thing, then that's not your thing and you prefer quicker rewards, but people who want fast action and results are going to get that through Power Play, we don't need to make the entire game like that. Once a mystery is revealed, it's done, there's no going back. Let's not make this another part of the game where people try to desperately rush through and optimize as if the game were ending next month.
Many thread about mystery in deep space
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If you want hints and breadcrumbs, investigate that recent mysterious Galnet story about alien tech showing up in the core systems. It has BREADCRUMB! written all over it 
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Amen to that
Clues in Galnet, in lore, we can agree on.
In your original post, you phrased it such that it sounded like you wanted hints from FDev to be posted on the forum.
Originally Posted by purplepomegranite
EDIT: This is not a game you can "complete". There is no end game. If you have that outlook, I think it will diminish your enjoyment. The whole point about having a galaxy so large is to emphasise this point, I believe. It is impossible for anyone to visit more than a tiny percentage of it. Even all of us combined would take at least 200 years to visit everything.
Amen to that
I hope that before next 200 years, someone start a mission tree in the Galnet to help us.
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A constructive post.. thank you; I immediately will edit my first post in order to correct this.
... done... hope my think is clearer now.
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Super structures in space you say?
Please note, I had not gone into a white dwarf, or black hole system. This thing is not floating, it is stationary on the surface, and maintains it's position (near those craters). I logged off, and logged in, it persisted... You can easily go check yourself (system name and designation is in a screen shot), it's only a couple of jumps from civ space.
Please note, I had not gone into a white dwarf, or black hole system. This thing is not floating, it is stationary on the surface, and maintains it's position (near those craters). I logged off, and logged in, it persisted... You can easily go check yourself (system name and designation is in a screen shot), it's only a couple of jumps from civ space.
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Ooh. It's a lot like what NASA just found on Ceres.
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I think this is just some rendering on the planet (and not the neutron star glitch, as that moves - strangely I only started having that recently). I posted earlier that I found a planet last night that looked like it had lights (it had several points similar to that in your pictures). On closer inspection there was nothing interesting about it (just a standard metal rich planet
).I would hope that when something is found, it is obvious that it is found!
There certainly are non celestial objects out there in deep space I have found them!
You will on occasion while exploring deep space come across a "signal source", I investigated one and found a blown up ship and loads of toxic waste floating about, non celstial objects?
Was DB being tongue in cheek when he eluded to say there were objects out there, was he just teasing us all into thinking aliens?
You will on occasion while exploring deep space come across a "signal source", I investigated one and found a blown up ship and loads of toxic waste floating about, non celstial objects?
Was DB being tongue in cheek when he eluded to say there were objects out there, was he just teasing us all into thinking aliens?
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Perhaps you're right. I did find it curious that when I thrusted away from it, it has a flat characteristic where you would expect it to be, if it was something on the surface (check last screen shot). It's an anomaly for sure, whether graphical glitch or not.
It might also be an ice-cap that just happens to be an outlier in size?
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Might be, but considering how close it is to the star, and considering there is no water on the planet, I highly doubt it. There is nothing else of note on the entire planet. Best thing is if someone can go check it, to verify and all that.
Doesn't need to be Aliens
Comets
Generation Ships.
In FFE Journals (Old Gal-net equivalent) there was a movement of Humans hollowing out asteroids to make unsanctioned colony ships
BUBBLE FORGE 1.
J.F.
The galaxy is just about to change and no-one's noticed yet. Dillon, owner of Dillon's Bubble Forge in the asteroid rich system of Wolf 424, is typical of a new band of entrepreneurs.
He took me through a production run. The first and critical stage is the selection process. The chosen asteroid has to be exactly right if the final product is to meet the required specification, nickel iron without too much carbonaceous material, although a bit of silicate around the outside does no harm.
The mining and backfilling takes Dillon's 'droids about a year. The amount of ice in the central core is calculated to the tonne and the huge alloy plug which fills the entrance tunnel is very carefully engineered. When the asteroid is just a nickel-iron shell filled with ice it is nudged out of orbit and falls towards the sun.
"We chose an M5 because we get good control of temperature. Brighter stars heat the preform up unpredictably. Get your orbit wrong by a few centi-k and it'll come out cooked. The temperature gradient's much better with an 'M'," Dillon told your reporter.
I was fortunate enough to be present when a new Bubble was coming up from the sun. Initially only one K across, the Bubble (now truly a bubble) was five K wide and - a little bonus from the angle the loading shaft was cut - it was already spinning fast enough to simulate 1G for anyone standing inside. All 200 Bubbles made so far have been for Frontier planets. All three forges are owned by men and women who were once from the frontier.
Who can doubt this is the wave of the future and that this wave signals the end of planet-bound civilisation?
BUBBLE FORGE 2.
J.F.
The history of Bubble production makes fascinating reading. The initial idea is as old as civilisation and may actually predate manned spaceflight. Planets are gravity wells. It seems obvious to those of us trained and brought up on the frontier that there are gross disadvantages about living down a well.
Once you're in, you're well in. The costs of getting out are high. More especially there are dangers about being always in the same predictable and accessible place. If the Feds are after you then they know where to come - unless you're a Bubble dweller.
The first attempts at Bubble manufacture were made by the folk of Stevenson (Phiagre), using nuclear explosives. This produced the desired configuration after the heating orbit system was developed although the asteroid preform had to be semi-molten before nuclear explosives proved powerful enough - but radiation problems meant that the resultant Bubble was uninhabitable for decades.
The new system, using ice inclusion to provide internal pressure when "cooked" by the local star, has been refined so that it is capable of producing any desired structure, up to and including multiple bubble habitats.
BUBBLE FORGE 3.
J.F.
An analysis of the sales of Bubbles over the last two decades shows the way the future is heading. All bar one have gone to colonists anxious to escape the expanding conformity of our modern culture. Once those groups would have fled through hyper space to a new planet beyond the frontiers of settlement.
One by one their new homes would have succumbed as the borders of the Federation and the Empire spread. It's well worth thinking about. If you settle a couple of parsecs out on an untouched planet then in two generations, yes, only two, your new settlement will have been overtaken by the advancing wave of what the two big bullies like to call civilisation. Maybe it's time to stop settling planets.
Maybe it's time for us all to think of taking up the ultimate frontier life as interstellar gypsies, roaming free and unthreatened while we leave the quarrels and pettiness of planet people behind.
BUBBLE FORGE 4.
J.F.
It's a strange experience for those of us used to the quick and easy travel offered by hyper space drives, but these people didn't seem to care that even short journeys to near star systems would take them generations.
"We ain't going anywhere," said one grizzled old-timer, waving his hand to take in the whole of the inside of his Bubble, the fresh soil, the new green crops pushing through the thin grey blanket covering the new-made fields.
"Why go anywhere else? This is home. This is the place we want to be." He was right. These people are simple farmers, living the life that science has proved is the one that suits humankind best. It's in our genes and most of the stresses and diseases of modern society are caused because we try to deny it.
She slipped her tugs and set off under her own Casimirs, spewing thin ice crystals into space.
When your reporter is dust and gone she will be only a quarter of the way to her destination. In all those years the crew will be living their lives, tilling the fields, farming, breeding their horses and cows. They'll call into the system when they get there, mine its Oort cloud for reaction mass and then set off again. True pioneers.
Bon Voyage.
BUBBLE SHIPS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
J.F.
Several Federation planets adjoining Imperial space have been to producing the so-called "Bubble" ships. These space arks are sold to unsuspecting groups who are told that they will be able to avoid contact with other and more powerful neighbours simply by travelling in their arks in the spaces between the stars. Many are thought to have penetrated Imperial borders and there is a possibility that several clandestine yards have been working within the Empire itself.
It is true that the chances of detection by Imperial craft is small when these vessels are far from planetary systems, but they will inevitably be detected when they approach a star in order to pick up reaction mass for their drives. Furthermore, they will take hundreds of years to reach other star-systems. By the time they do, the descendants of the original 'Bubbleteers' will find that Imperial expansion has been so rapid that their destination has already been settled and civilised by our advance parties. The Bubble dream is only a dream, not a realistic way of settling the galaxy.
Any Bubble detected in Imperial space will be boarded and destroyed.
Other agencies please copy.
BUBBLES GO MAD
J.F.
The current craze for Bubble colonies is getting out of hand. All current bubble forges are in Federation space, and their productions rates are unregulated. They sell their products to the first bidder who can afford their not inconsiderable prices.
There are dangers in this unregulated expansion. First the sales of conventional colonising ships are threatened. Second, good human stock is being wasted which could be used to settle other Federation planets. Last, the Casimir drives the Bubbles use are a possible threat to all space-time. The government should act now and reduce production rates until these problems are resolved. The government has announced today that production of the so-called Bubble-arks is to be banned in all Federation space until scientific problems have been resolved.
To this end all those engaged in the forges are to be relocated on Eckhard Reward (Exinfa) for a conference which may last some years while their accumulated experience is analysed. It may be that production figures for these arks has been much understated.
Preliminary figures show that some fifteen thousand have been launched with full complements of coloniser crews. A hundred and fifty million people is no great loss to the Federation, particularly as they are all of the outward looking tendency which is so difficult to integrate into a fully civilised society, but they would have been able to settle new planets for the Federation and hence help us oppose the expansion of the Empire of the Duvals. All Bubbles found in Federation space will be fired on without warning. Other agencies please copy.
J.F.
The galaxy is just about to change and no-one's noticed yet. Dillon, owner of Dillon's Bubble Forge in the asteroid rich system of Wolf 424, is typical of a new band of entrepreneurs.
He took me through a production run. The first and critical stage is the selection process. The chosen asteroid has to be exactly right if the final product is to meet the required specification, nickel iron without too much carbonaceous material, although a bit of silicate around the outside does no harm.
The mining and backfilling takes Dillon's 'droids about a year. The amount of ice in the central core is calculated to the tonne and the huge alloy plug which fills the entrance tunnel is very carefully engineered. When the asteroid is just a nickel-iron shell filled with ice it is nudged out of orbit and falls towards the sun.
"We chose an M5 because we get good control of temperature. Brighter stars heat the preform up unpredictably. Get your orbit wrong by a few centi-k and it'll come out cooked. The temperature gradient's much better with an 'M'," Dillon told your reporter.
I was fortunate enough to be present when a new Bubble was coming up from the sun. Initially only one K across, the Bubble (now truly a bubble) was five K wide and - a little bonus from the angle the loading shaft was cut - it was already spinning fast enough to simulate 1G for anyone standing inside. All 200 Bubbles made so far have been for Frontier planets. All three forges are owned by men and women who were once from the frontier.
Who can doubt this is the wave of the future and that this wave signals the end of planet-bound civilisation?
BUBBLE FORGE 2.
J.F.
The history of Bubble production makes fascinating reading. The initial idea is as old as civilisation and may actually predate manned spaceflight. Planets are gravity wells. It seems obvious to those of us trained and brought up on the frontier that there are gross disadvantages about living down a well.
Once you're in, you're well in. The costs of getting out are high. More especially there are dangers about being always in the same predictable and accessible place. If the Feds are after you then they know where to come - unless you're a Bubble dweller.
The first attempts at Bubble manufacture were made by the folk of Stevenson (Phiagre), using nuclear explosives. This produced the desired configuration after the heating orbit system was developed although the asteroid preform had to be semi-molten before nuclear explosives proved powerful enough - but radiation problems meant that the resultant Bubble was uninhabitable for decades.
The new system, using ice inclusion to provide internal pressure when "cooked" by the local star, has been refined so that it is capable of producing any desired structure, up to and including multiple bubble habitats.
BUBBLE FORGE 3.
J.F.
An analysis of the sales of Bubbles over the last two decades shows the way the future is heading. All bar one have gone to colonists anxious to escape the expanding conformity of our modern culture. Once those groups would have fled through hyper space to a new planet beyond the frontiers of settlement.
One by one their new homes would have succumbed as the borders of the Federation and the Empire spread. It's well worth thinking about. If you settle a couple of parsecs out on an untouched planet then in two generations, yes, only two, your new settlement will have been overtaken by the advancing wave of what the two big bullies like to call civilisation. Maybe it's time to stop settling planets.
Maybe it's time for us all to think of taking up the ultimate frontier life as interstellar gypsies, roaming free and unthreatened while we leave the quarrels and pettiness of planet people behind.
BUBBLE FORGE 4.
J.F.
It's a strange experience for those of us used to the quick and easy travel offered by hyper space drives, but these people didn't seem to care that even short journeys to near star systems would take them generations.
"We ain't going anywhere," said one grizzled old-timer, waving his hand to take in the whole of the inside of his Bubble, the fresh soil, the new green crops pushing through the thin grey blanket covering the new-made fields.
"Why go anywhere else? This is home. This is the place we want to be." He was right. These people are simple farmers, living the life that science has proved is the one that suits humankind best. It's in our genes and most of the stresses and diseases of modern society are caused because we try to deny it.
She slipped her tugs and set off under her own Casimirs, spewing thin ice crystals into space.
When your reporter is dust and gone she will be only a quarter of the way to her destination. In all those years the crew will be living their lives, tilling the fields, farming, breeding their horses and cows. They'll call into the system when they get there, mine its Oort cloud for reaction mass and then set off again. True pioneers.
Bon Voyage.
BUBBLE SHIPS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
J.F.
Several Federation planets adjoining Imperial space have been to producing the so-called "Bubble" ships. These space arks are sold to unsuspecting groups who are told that they will be able to avoid contact with other and more powerful neighbours simply by travelling in their arks in the spaces between the stars. Many are thought to have penetrated Imperial borders and there is a possibility that several clandestine yards have been working within the Empire itself.
It is true that the chances of detection by Imperial craft is small when these vessels are far from planetary systems, but they will inevitably be detected when they approach a star in order to pick up reaction mass for their drives. Furthermore, they will take hundreds of years to reach other star-systems. By the time they do, the descendants of the original 'Bubbleteers' will find that Imperial expansion has been so rapid that their destination has already been settled and civilised by our advance parties. The Bubble dream is only a dream, not a realistic way of settling the galaxy.
Any Bubble detected in Imperial space will be boarded and destroyed.
Other agencies please copy.
BUBBLES GO MAD
J.F.
The current craze for Bubble colonies is getting out of hand. All current bubble forges are in Federation space, and their productions rates are unregulated. They sell their products to the first bidder who can afford their not inconsiderable prices.
There are dangers in this unregulated expansion. First the sales of conventional colonising ships are threatened. Second, good human stock is being wasted which could be used to settle other Federation planets. Last, the Casimir drives the Bubbles use are a possible threat to all space-time. The government should act now and reduce production rates until these problems are resolved. The government has announced today that production of the so-called Bubble-arks is to be banned in all Federation space until scientific problems have been resolved.
To this end all those engaged in the forges are to be relocated on Eckhard Reward (Exinfa) for a conference which may last some years while their accumulated experience is analysed. It may be that production figures for these arks has been much understated.
Preliminary figures show that some fifteen thousand have been launched with full complements of coloniser crews. A hundred and fifty million people is no great loss to the Federation, particularly as they are all of the outward looking tendency which is so difficult to integrate into a fully civilised society, but they would have been able to settle new planets for the Federation and hence help us oppose the expansion of the Empire of the Duvals. All Bubbles found in Federation space will be fired on without warning. Other agencies please copy.
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I'll look it up next time I am playing and swing by there. I doubt it will be much of a detour to me on my way in. It'll probably take me a while to get there though.
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I haven't found any USS yet out in deep space. Though I guess I haven't been looking for them that much (though I think I would spot them if they were in a system I was surface scanning). They are now added to the list of something I want to find before I get back.
To be honest during my exploration trips I have never dropped into a USS. Something about that just screams Condition Red.
^ This ^
I spotted a weak signal source in some system near the Orion Nebula last week. I dropped out of SC to have a look and found a single canister of rare artwork with no ship wreckage.
I couldn't scoop it because I have no cargo space. I didn't for a moment think it could be anything other than a 'standard' rare artwork canister though.
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