Hardware & Technical Computer Build to run Elite Dangerous

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Abysinth said:
But it is within the budget and, for $629+tax (~ukp400 plus tax), it's not a bad computer...
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I bet that rig would run Elite just fine. It's not great, not awful, and a hell of a lot better than your average BestBuy/Walmart/Tesco box.

I've got it running acceptably on a crapbook air of all things, and that box probably has two or three times the grunt.
 

Thexx25

Thexx25
Talking about controllers to use, There is a very useful video of MarcParis, showing how the game is playable with a X-Box Controller :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYBC-1ZgaGg

I'm wondering if anyone here have try to play with an PS3 controller ??
My brand new PC is coming in two days, and i still don't know if i have to buy a joystick or a X-box controller... (i won't play with keyboard+mouse)

(Ps : The PC i've ordered is this one : http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur/materiel-net-falcon-mk1-win7-haswell-pc-gamer-94161.html)
 

Squicker

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I have a Saitek X52 Pro kit but also the XB360 wireless adaptor for PC. The XB controller is so useful that I never bother setting up by X52 stuff!

Thexx25 said:
Talking about controllers to use, There is a very useful video of MarcParis, showing how the game is playable with a X-Box Controller :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYBC-1ZgaGg

I'm wondering if anyone here have try to play with an PS3 controller ??
My brand new PC is coming in two days, and i still don't know if i have to buy a joystick or a X-box controller... (i won't play with keyboard+mouse)

(Ps : The PC i've ordered is this one : http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur/materiel-net-falcon-mk1-win7-haswell-pc-gamer-94161.html)
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Thexx25

Thexx25
Squicker said:
I have a Saitek X52 Pro kit but also the XB360 wireless adaptor for PC. The XB controller is so useful that I never bother setting up by X52 stuff!
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Thanks, it's useful !

MarcParis told me that the PS4 controller was Windows-compatible... Does anyone tried to play with a PS4 controller ??
 

Pyros

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Asp Explorer said:
I bet that rig would run Elite just fine. It's not great, not awful, and a hell of a lot better than your average BestBuy/Walmart/Tesco box.

I've got it running acceptably on a crapbook air of all things, and that box probably has two or three times the grunt.
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The problem in that PC is that money is in the wrong place for gaming - a nice CPU with a crappy GPU. The other way around works better for gaming.

For budget solutions, I'd rather have a cheap quad core from AMD with a R9 270 level GPU than a i5 with a ... something. I wouldn't be surprised that the next gen AMD APU actually would be on par or beat that thingy - and that is integrated graphics :eek:.

Actually, all "gaming PCs" from newegg ca were badly balanced... some downright bad.
 

Im_Lost

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Currently running:

MSI 780gtx
i7 2600k 3.40ghz (overclocked to 4.5ghz)
Asus Xonar STX sound card
Gigabyte z77-ud3 motherboard
Bigfoot Killer 2100 gaming network card
16gb Samsung Green DDR3 ram @ 1800mhz

Watercooled and built by myself. Runs everything with ease while being almost completely silent :D
 
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Dr Wookie

Dr Wookie
Pyros said:
The problem in that PC is that money is in the wrong place for gaming - a nice CPU with a crappy GPU. The other way around works better for gaming.

For budget solutions, I'd rather have a cheap quad core from AMD with a R9 270 level GPU than a i5 with a ... something. I wouldn't be surprised that the next gen AMD APU actually would be on par or beat that thingy - and that is integrated graphics :eek:.

Actually, all "gaming PCs" from newegg ca were badly balanced... some downright bad.
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The alpha is giving some CPUs a good workout, so this is not entirely true :). My i7 4770 is barely breaking a sweat in the big battle, but someone earlier in the thread said that their CPU was at about 90% capacity, while their GPU was stuck at 40% unable to perform.
 

Squicker

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Dr Wookie said:
The alpha is giving some CPUs a good workout, so this is not entirely true :). My i7 4770 is barely breaking a sweat in the big battle, but someone earlier in the thread said that their CPU was at about 90% capacity, while their GPU was stuck at 40% unable to perform.
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That's why I would differ in this instance from our learned chum, Pyros: a good GPU is of course a good thing but you do need the BHP to drive it and this depends on the app and the CPU being up to scratch. Otherwise the GPU will sit there bored, as is the case in Elite with those people you mention.

And if you are like me and do lots of other stuff with the PC, then a powerful CPU benefits everything, whereas a GPU only really benefits games. Even rendering and video display is greatly benefitted by a good CPU now that Intel have Quick Sync on-chip.
 

Abysinth

Abysinth
Pyros said:
The problem in that PC is that money is in the wrong place for gaming - a nice CPU with a crappy GPU. The other way around works better for gaming.

For budget solutions, I'd rather have a cheap quad core from AMD with a R9 270 level GPU than a i5 with a ... something. I wouldn't be surprised that the next gen AMD APU actually would be on par or beat that thingy - and that is integrated graphics :eek:.

Actually, all "gaming PCs" from newegg ca were badly balanced... some downright bad.
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Agreed, however I would imagine that upgrading a graphics card is preferred over upgrading a CPU for someone who is unfamiliar with going inside the box. I've never looked at what name someone else calls a PC preferring, instead, to look at what's actually in there - and that machine doesn't tell us what the Motherboard is. I secretly suspect they've called it a gaming PC because of the pretty lights in case and that the hardware 'will do'.

I recall the day my son wanted to upgrade his CD drive to a DVD drive, yes it's a few years back and he was about 12 at the time. Anyway, he'd never opened a computer before so I gave him a tool kit, the new drive and told him to do it himself. A short time later he was gaming again...
 

The Space Pirate

The Space Pirate
Upgrade imminent, but probably not before the beta so with that in mind, do any alpha testers have a system similar to mine; if so, how does it perform?
 

Dr Wookie

Dr Wookie
Oops! My GPU is not being used at all... the videos I've put up have been using the Intel HD 4600 chip! That explains a lot!
 

Pyros

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Dr Wookie said:
The alpha is giving some CPUs a good workout, so this is not entirely true :). My i7 4770 is barely breaking a sweat in the big battle, but someone earlier in the thread said that their CPU was at about 90% capacity, while their GPU was stuck at 40% unable to perform.
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Squicker said:
That's why I would differ in this instance from our learned chum, Pyros: a good GPU is of course a good thing but you do need the BHP to drive it and this depends on the app and the CPU being up to scratch. Otherwise the GPU will sit there bored, as is the case in Elite with those people you mention.

And if you are like me and do lots of other stuff with the PC, then a powerful CPU benefits everything, whereas a GPU only really benefits games. Even rendering and video display is greatly benefitted by a good CPU now that Intel have Quick Sync on-chip.
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Don't get me wrong ;) - I'm not saying that only GPU matters - it is always a question of balance, although GPU usually takes priority for most games.

The issue of that particular newegg system is that it combines a top of the range gaming CPU (for gaming the i5 4670k is on par with the 4770k) with probably the weakest GPU available besides integrated stuff :p

It is more or less the same as pairing an Atom with a 780Ti and calling it a gaming platform.

That is why I said that for that budget level a quad core AMD and a r9 270 level GPU would be a better solution - a bit less CPU and a hell of a lot more GPU, for the budget level (600-700USD).

Of course that it also depends on the specific software being run - in this case, Elite Dangerous. And alpha faction mission, as referred, showed us an instance quite demanding on CPU. And there is also a nice caveat regarding CPU/GPU balance - while you can reduce the demands on the GPU (lower eyecandy and resolution) there is no way of doing the same for AI and other engine calculations (with some rare exceptions)
 
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Squicker

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Dr Wookie said:
Oops! My GPU is not being used at all... the videos I've put up have been using the Intel HD 4600 chip! That explains a lot!
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Haha! Bonus prize for you now then!

Now, using the proper GPU, what CPU consumption do you get?
 

Squicker

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Pyros said:
Don't get me wrong ;) -
The issue of that particular newegg system is that it combines a top of the range gaming CPU (for gaming the i5 4670k is on par with the 4770k) with probably the weakest GPU available besides integrated stuff :p
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Yeah, it is pants. Balance is the key, with a preference to CPU - IMO of course.

Newegg, more like Dog's egg!
 

Squicker

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Dr Wookie said:
Sticking it in 1600x900 windowed mode, with all settings on max, I'm using about 20% CPU in non-taxing missions and 30-50% during the big battle :)
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So GPU bound still but getting 60FPS, not bad at all. I am looking forward to unleasing my GTX780 on it when we hit beta.
 
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