You mean rephrase?
If he repeated it, it would make as much sense wouldn't it?
No, just clean up the grammar and such. <snip>
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No, just clean up the grammar and such. <snip>
Servers and costs aside, if you haven't already noticed that CG's and the plans as stated by Frontier for PP are also part of an ongoing narrative which is told in the newsletters. At the very least, you would be doubling those man hours to keep up with two divergent background simulations, where a system could belong in the empire for one and the federation in the other. Your comments are simply financially naive.
I have said many times that the suggestion is flawed in many ways due to other factors. Do keep up.
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The more i think about your last lines, the more i tend to consider removing solo/group-modes from the game as a good idea. At least more people would actually learn about networking, protocols in general, VPNs and maybe some cryptology too. Reinventing the internet as it was intended to be; a better place for everyone.
But politics aside, what you wrote here and what is often mentioned in this discussion only as a sidenote, is actually one of the keynotes to overcome all this drama atleast a tiny bit.
If some people could only unterstand, that they might misinterpret/overestimate the capabilities of ED and therefore fall short on their own high expectations when it comes down to blockades and "massive" online-interactions etc., we (as in the whole community) would be a big step closer to a proper solution on this topic.
Due to how this game is build, (p2p, instancing, regional CIX-matching, you name it) there will NEVER be full a blockade of anything, nor thousands of players at one station. And if the Devs would rework said "never" into a "certainly", there would be so much lag, that the forum itself will be lagging because of all the threats about "stolen kills", "combat loggers" and "cheaters", so nothing to gain here.
Long story short: All Open-Players ARE currently playing in a (somewhat) randomized Group-mode.
It's like chatroulette mariokart in space.
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So many jokes to crack.
And all are bannable offenses
Very wise commander, very wise....
Aw man, I had a good one about blueshells and mushrooms.Very wise commander, very wise....
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For a start, not an attack - pointing something out you refuse to admit to yourself.
Secondly, you asked about a separate mode - FDs answer is no. Read the quote, properly.
The suggestion of a separate server has also been answered, FD refuse to maintain 2 servers - they want us all in together.
It really is this simple.
The quotes from FD have been re-quoted so often, I'm having to check the mirror to make sure I'm not morphing into Michael.
I fear if I shave my beard off, I'll find myself to be BDOBE
You and some others, despite being shown repeatedly, are just refusing to accept your vision for ED is not FDs vision for it.
Well, FD win don't they. So, cased closed.
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added some more information from the boss himself (bold + underline relevant parts);
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Again you hit the nail on the head, I agree with every word.
I would fully support this IF the people wanting the new open only server pay for it and any additional staff costs FD need to manage it, as long as it did not detract from the game development in any way.
That said I would suggest FD rent the additional servers on a rolling monthly basis not a yearly contract, they could say "OK, you really want this so we will do it for you, IF you pay for a full years server rental & staff costs up front", I can see people reaching for the credit card already
, hold that thought I will return to it*.There is the Mobius group with over 8k members for a good reason, there are also PVP groups I have seen people mention, I would imagine they are frequented by people looking for consensual pvp and I doubt anyone fly's a type 6. And that's the problem I see with this idea.
I personally think that if they can convince FD to do it without slowing development for everyone else (and I include the 90% of the people that don't post here that also own the game) then go for it. If FD say yes (but it is a one way trip, if you don't like it you have to start again, clear save, signed in blood) then kickstart it.
Have the people that want everyone to play in open because they can't find enough players met the people that want to fragment open with a new open only mode met yet? now that will be fun thread to read open vs open, I wonder if it would be original enough to avoid a merge
.* When after a few weeks everyone who moved to the new server realises there are so many less players, everyone is in a combat ship and actually wants a fight and there is no one to pirate they will leave, FD can close down the server and not have to pay for the server for 11 months, plus as a bonus we might get a few extra people (as their wages are already paid) retained to help the core development for a year, win win.
The cost to the forum and mods sanity might not be worth it though, I would imagine there would be a lot of annoyed and vocal people refusing to take responsibility for their own choices.
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You're awesome Aimeryan.
Getting attacked from every Solo/Group advocate for page after page and you still come back swinging.
I'll be reping you as much as possible.
Keep up the good fight!
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Again you hit the nail on the head, I agree with every word.
I would fully support this IF the people wanting the new open only server pay for it and any additional staff costs FD need to manage it, as long as it did not detract from the game development in any way.
That said I would suggest FD rent the additional servers on a rolling monthly basis not a yearly contract, they could say "OK, you really want this so we will do it for you, IF you pay for a full years server rental & staff costs up front", I can see people reaching for the credit card already
There is the Mobius group with over 8k members for a good reason, there are also PVP groups I have seen people mention, I would imagine they are frequented by people looking for consensual pvp and I doubt anyone fly's a type 6. And that's the problem I see with this idea.
I personally think that if they can convince FD to do it without slowing development for everyone else (and I include the 90% of the people that don't post here that also own the game) then go for it. If FD say yes (but it is a one way trip, if you don't like it you have to start again, clear save, signed in blood) then kickstart it.
Have the people that want everyone to play in open because they can't find enough players met the people that want to fragment open with a new open only mode met yet? now that will be fun thread to read open vs open, I wonder if it would be original enough to avoid a merge
* When after a few weeks everyone who moved to the new server realises there are so many less players, everyone is in a combat ship and actually wants a fight and there is no one to pirate they will leave, FD can close down the server and not have to pay for the server for 11 months, plus as a bonus we might get a few extra people (as their wages are already paid) retained to help the core development for a year, win win.
The cost to the forum and mods sanity might not be worth it though, I would imagine there would be a lot of annoyed and vocal people refusing to take responsibility for their own choices.
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He swings....
He misses....
But he is entertaining, and helping my post count, I've been quite lazy in this one
Can you point me to the post where you mentioned it before, sorry I missed that one.
I may have also missed the post that puts the underlined in context (it may be one and the same) but can you explain what you are serious about and what you are not. Then I will know how to respond to both, tyvm.
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He swings....
He misses....
But he is entertaining, and helping my post count, I've been quite lazy in this one
Lazy on this one... more like K.O.ed on the floor.
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Lazy on this one... more like K.O.ed on the floor.
More like bored of how you guys repeat the same mantra of "unfair" without any proof - this has become my bed time reading, to help me go to sleep
(after midnight in the UK, I'm have tea and toast then off to sleep)
Perhaps you should think about Daves idea of kickstarting your own server and Dev team, get the ED you want not the one FD wants
[Edit - change of plans, Hunt for Red October on Netflix.... late one for me !
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More like bored of how you guys repeat the same mantra of "unfair" without any proof - this has become my bed time reading, to help me go to sleep
(after midnight in the UK, I'm have tea and toast then off to sleep)
Perhaps you should think about Daves idea of kickstarting your own server and Dev team, get the ED you want not the one FD wants
[Edit - change of plans, Hunt for Red October on Netflix.... late one for me !
If after a few weeks of powerplay nothing has changed with mode switching or incentives for Open play and/or an Open only server isn't announced I will be looking at other gaming options.
Russian Sean Connery is not as good as Egyptian Sean Connery
I'm also in the UK.
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Maybe a good idea is to start the searching from now ;p
There won't be an Open only server announcement - it's nonsensical. Open only works by the matchmaking server allowing connections between player peers. They are the Open Only server.
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I'm willing to give powerplay a chance first.
I have no idea what you mean. I'm referring to Open being left how it is and a new mode being created which allows PvP but is isolated from the other modes from mode switching and the background simulation would be separate from the other modes.
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Just get shadowbanned.
What exactly are you expecting to change? (honest question)
I posted DBs words just above, "solo players balance solo players" in regard to PP / 1.3 - so FD obviously don't see a problem (and they have all the data we don't).
I genuinely am sorry ED is not working out for you, perhaps the promised Ironman mode will bring something the game currently lacks for you.
What would you turn to if you did?
As I believe SC will have a more fractured player base, due to having personal private servers. Plus I'm told (not sure how true, so if anyone can link me information, that would be great) the persistent world over there will be similar to ED, with the P2P instancing system we have.
I know nothing about the other space one, new sky or something? But I gather that is more about being out exploring (again, any info is welcome)
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