That it exactly what class 3 fuel scoop does. If it had a class 3 FSD, and used 1.8T of fuel/jump, this would be normal decent performance. But it has a class 4 FSD, Using up to 3 T of fuel per jump, so this is actually the worst fuel scooping ship in the game.
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That it exactly what class 3 fuel scoop does. If it had a class 3 FSD, and used 1.8T of fuel/jump, this would be normal decent performance. But it has a class 4 FSD, Using up to 3 T of fuel per jump, so this is actually the worst fuel scooping ship in the game.
I only have one, and it's a bit of a pain when a combat CG pops up 1-200 LY away. I'm always tempted to sell & re-buy, but that just seems silly to me.
I only have a 3C scoop on my Asp (I know! Outfitted it ages ago when I didn't have much money) and only remembered it recently, though I'm about 9 KLY from the nearest outfitter. My point being - a fast scoop is nice but not essential. I'm getting ~80-85/s at 64% heat.
I guess you have the option of adding another fuel tank now, but I don't know what you can get rid of to accommodate it.
large weapons or strong shields aren't essential either, but for some odd reason, combat pilot seem to like them.
An idea.
A slot dedicated either for scoop or say extra fuel tank, nothing else can be put into it..
Of course. This was never going to be a Vulture - Asp lovechild. If this had the range of an Asp with the combat ability of a Vulture, you might as well bin the Vulture and Asp as no one would ever buy them again. (Unless you made the DiamondBack ridiculously expensive, to compensate).
It's a hell of a lot better than a Vulture for long distances, and it's a lot faster and more agile than an Asp. To me it sounds like a great all-rounder design. Maybe it could use a few configuration tweaks - that's what Beta is for. An extra/larger fuel tank would be one option.
Dear God. It doesn't need extra fuel! It needs the right scoop size and more module room. You realize the vulture may even be a faster traveler than the DB despite the lower jump range, just because the vulture scoops so much faster.
In fact, in a 1000 ly race between a stripped down vulture and a stripped down DB, I bet the vulture would win.
Stripped down vulture can do 21.79 ly jumps, a stripped down DB about 29. So the vulture will do 25% more jumps but scoop three and a half times faster:
(3/8)*13 =~ 3.875 seconds to fill up after 1 max range jump for vulture. (3/16)*90 =~ 16.875 seconds to fill up after 1 max range jump for DB.
In fact, in a 1000 ly race between a stripped down vulture and a stripped down DB, I bet the vulture would win.
Stripped down vulture can do 21.79 ly jumps, a stripped down DB about 29. So the vulture will do 25% more jumps but scoop three and a half times faster:
(3/8)*13 =~ 3.875 seconds to fill up after 1 max range jump for vulture. (3/16)*90 =~ 16.875 seconds to fill up after 1 max range jump for DB.
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This. Or, they could do what makes sense and let you put the scanners on a utility mount.
I'm done with this thread, moved on to the courier, 2 of you have done your fair share of complaining, perhaps the devs will modify the ship to specifically suit your taste.
Why is it that some people were assuming it would be better then any other explorer or combat ship we have already? It will fill a gap. I wish I had a DB from the beginning. Somewhere after the Cobra. No?
I will get one. I like the stats and if the price matches even better. I'm an explorer and use a T6 to do so. So what?! Price/fun ratio is okay.
But keep crying...
/HC
I will get one. I like the stats and if the price matches even better. I'm an explorer and use a T6 to do so. So what?! Price/fun ratio is okay.
But keep crying...
/HC
Do we know the price range of the DB yet? The T6 is a better explorer then the ASP since we know the price.
You said it: it's cheaper it holds all the modules you need and now in 1.3 you even can add a fuel tank. It only miss a couple ly.
ASP looks better ... But that's opinion and taste.
Sorry to the OP ... But too many positve threads about the DB have being highjacked by cryers ...
ASP looks better ... But that's opinion and taste.
Sorry to the OP ... But too many positve threads about the DB have being highjacked by cryers ...
Ok, by that logic the viper is better than the FDL at combat -- it's cheaper and can fit all the lasers and shields you need for combat. By that logic, a cheap plastic watch is better than a rolex -- it's cheaper and still tells time.
T6 has less range than asp, turns slower than asp in supercruise, scoops slower than asp, can do fewer jumps on one tank of gas than asp. All those things matter. If you don't think stats matter for exploring, go explore in an FDL.
The reason we have different words for "better" and "cheaper" is because they mean different things.
T6 has less range than asp, turns slower than asp in supercruise, scoops slower than asp, can do fewer jumps on one tank of gas than asp. All those things matter. If you don't think stats matter for exploring, go explore in an FDL.
The reason we have different words for "better" and "cheaper" is because they mean different things.
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See we on to something. In my book exploring has nothing to do with speed at all. Combat does and even trading. But exploring?
So I think once we know the DB price range it will fall in place. Newer is not always better.
It's not the worst ship. It's all about balance. By your logics the best explorer is an Annaconda and the worst a Sidewinder. Don't get hang up on the word explorer. Do what ever you want. Don't buy it. I explored in a cobra. Never had a Hauler or viper or eagle.... Guess what: I still have a lot of fun. Done it all. With out worrying about some stats.
Ok you don't have to worry about stats, similarly to how you don't have to worry about stats for combat or trading. It's your game, play how you want to play. But stats do exist and they do matter, for combat, trading AND exploration. They might not matter to you, but this is more than just about you.
Actually, if you truly don't care about stats why don't you swap your FSD and scoop to 1E in your type 6?
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There is no balance. The diamondback is literally worse at exploration than a 40k credit ship, how on earth is that balanced?
Actually, if you truly don't care about stats why don't you swap your FSD and scoop to 1E in your type 6?
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There is no balance. The diamondback is literally worse at exploration than a 40k credit ship, how on earth is that balanced?
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