News Elite: Dangerous Steam Keys

DJ · May 28, 2015

Shigawire said:
And where is this little factoid written? 30% seems excessive.

Many indie devs have quoted Valve take a 30% cut regards sales of their product on Steam. Yep it's high! It's been this figure for several years. Bigger companies clearly get to negotiate it down with Valve. We'll likely never know...

alienw9 · May 28, 2015

ok...so the store loaded .... and where is the key ... -.-'? ... always problems with this kind of stuff... hope it resolves soon... ^^

OxKing · May 28, 2015

Ummm... There is no "Partner Key" anywhere in my Dashboard... ???

FuegoTigre · May 28, 2015

Tilen said:
It is stated in the very part that you quoted, that if you purchase through FDev store 100 percent pf the proceeds go to FDev. The obvious implication here, is the opposite. That being if the game is purchased through Steam (or anything after you'd linked your profiles), some other part (less than 100%) of the whole, proceeds go to FDev, presumably the rest goes to Valve or Captain America.

You're not purchasing through Steam if you purchase through the EliteDangerous store.

aDuz · May 28, 2015

some crazy speculations going off in this thread like Chinese whispers, working yourselves up gettin all hot n bothered n steamy

RatInstinct · May 28, 2015

Hmmm finally managed to get to the end of the process after clicking on the partner keys and linking to Steam but nothing is showing either in Steam or on the dashboard. Should we expect an update from FD on this or hassle them for an update?

AndyGandhi · May 28, 2015

They got rid of the key button to save their website

Tyberius Lambert · May 28, 2015

I think with EA ans Steam it was a case of EA taking their games off Steam, rather than Steam taking them off

Iori · May 28, 2015

FuegoTigre said:
You're not purchasing through Steam if you purchase through the EliteDangerous store.

If you link your account, Valve takes the cut even if you buy from ED store: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=148965&p=2293661&viewfull=1#post2293661

Tyberius Lambert · May 28, 2015

Iori said:
He suggest that as long as you buy through ED store, 100% will go to FDev, regardless if you linked your account or not. I believe that is not the case. Once the account is linked, a portion (presumably 30%), will go to Volvo, even if you buy from the store, because it essentially becomes content for a game that you have on Steam.

I know you meant Valve but I couldn't help but laugh thinking some random car company was getting money for a game XD

aDuz · May 28, 2015

1 good thing though, re downloading the game through steam took 7mins, takes all night through FD launcher

Tyberius Lambert · May 28, 2015

The annoying this is; all this speculation and confusion can be fixed with a quick and clearly worded post from a dev.

Elgered · May 28, 2015

for me, nearly everything went smooth in the evening, but I got the following instead of a key, after clicking "claim":

FuegoTigre · May 28, 2015

Edward Lewis said:
Yeah, that's a fair interpretation. We don't think of it as a tax though, just part of working with third party retailers.

Iori said:
If you link your account, Valve takes the cut even if you buy from ED store: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=148965&p=2293661&viewfull=1#post2293661

Lori, I'm not sure if that is the smoking gun we're looking for. Ed statement is above. He doesn't specify that buying from the website applies a tax, and goes even further to declare that it is not a tax. For all we know, he's talking about buying items through Steam that are available on the ED Store.

Frankly, I'm just a tich annoyed we haven't gotten an official clarification on this.

RatInstinct · May 28, 2015

Elgered said:
for me, nearly everything went smooth in the evening, but I got the following instead of a key, after clicking "claim":

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Ditto for me! But the key was added to which account? Steam or FD? And if so how do we get to it? Much grumbles.

gofast1993 · May 28, 2015

The website now load but I cannot log in at all

Mad Doctor X · May 28, 2015

Tyberius Lambert said:
The annoying this is; all this speculation and confusion can be fixed with a quick and clearly worded post from a dev.

It'll be commercially sensitive. This was asked when the keys were announced and we didn't get an answer the and we won't get one now. Its pretty simple, if you don't want your ED cash going to Valve don't accept the key.

Iori · May 28, 2015

FuegoTigre said:
Lori, I'm not sure if that is the smoking gun we're looking for. Ed statement is above. He doesn't specify that buying from the website applies a tax, and goes even further to declare that it is not a tax. For all we know, he's talking about buying items through Steam that are available on the ED Store.

Frankly, I'm just a tich annoyed we haven't gotten an official clarification on this.

but by doing so any future FD store purchases become subject to the "valve tax"

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stephen_usher · May 28, 2015

FuegoTigre said:
You're not purchasing through Steam if you purchase through the EliteDangerous store.

Once you get your Steam key then your account is linked to Steam. All downloadable content purchased after that, whether bought through Steam or on the ED store has to have a set amount given to Valve as per a contract Frontier has signed with them.

Is that now clear?

So,

Option 1: Don't get a Steam key and buy everything directly from Frontier = Frontier gets all the money
Option 2: Get a Steam key and buy anything anywhere = Frontier gets (Price - Valve transaction percentage fee) for ANYTHING directly related to the game forever more.

FuegoTigre · May 28, 2015

Iori said:
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Lori... Ed didn't say that part. Ed's REPLY was that it was a "fair interpretation", implying it was not a clear fact, and an approximation of one.