Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Chaodiurn]

The two systems we know spawn UAs are Timocani and 109 Virginis, which are ~100 ly apart. I'm not able to get in game, but if I remember correctly, E Geminorium is kind of on this line too?

E Geminorium is slightly above Timocani, to the east-south-east to south-east (?). It is rather close at that. Although the T9 has a low jump range even when empty due to the high hull mass, I could imagine that it can do it with a direct jump. From 109 Virhinis it would be way further.

Oh gosh, oh gosh, I just contributed to this! How exciting!

 

[Grumbleweed]

E Geminorium is slightly above Timocani, to the east-south-east to south-east (?). It is rather close at that. Although the T9 has a low jump range even when empty due to the high hull mass, I could imagine that it can do it with a direct jump. From 109 Virhinis it would be way further.

Oh gosh, oh gosh, I just contributed to this! How exciting!

Thanks!

Also, on the same page as that post there is this excellent suggestion from 'BEKTOP 3APEMOB', but it got buried in the post frenzy that day..
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&p=2189874&viewfull=1#post2189874

I do think the Wings Trailer is the biggest clue we've had so far...

 

[Han_Zen]

A good trick is to listen for key markers, rather than whole words.

"KALANA 2" is a good one to listen to with an angle to hearing the breaks between letters. http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/b/672161703 @ the 10:06 mark

"A" is "dit dah" and occurs three times (identically) with "other stuff" in between. After the third occurrance there's a significant gap, followed by a long chitter (as numbers are 5 symbols long in morse, while most alphabet characters are 1-4).

If you're not experienced at listening to morse, listening for patterns works best

Thank you for the tips. I'm doing OK with QorbeQs mp3, but the videos are to dificult for me :-/

 

[Wishblend]

If you just ignore them the UAs tend to eat through the cargo hatch before anything else. I'm not sure if that is some sort of intentional behaviour; it does seem that cargo hatches are easier to damage than other components.

They like the docking computer a lot as well

 

[nikos]

Test to see if the ua acts like a scanner

http://www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6918035

Thank you for doing the test (and thanks to QorbeQ for decoding it)! OK, speculation time (but with testable theory at the end).

If it acts like a scanner, and it speaks Morse then it is probably not wholly alien. It could be something human engineers made out of some alien component. Could this be the "custom built Gutamaya scanner" Lady Kahina had installed on her ship a while ago?

Silly but testable theory: when in OUTFITTING, if you click on an internal slot, does the UA appear in the list of installable modules?!??!

 

[Wishblend]

Thank you for doing the test (and thanks to QorbeQ for decoding it)! OK, speculation time (but with testable theory at the end).

If it acts like a scanner, and it speaks Morse then it is probably not wholly alien. It could be something human engineers made out of some alien component. Could this be the "custom built Gutamaya scanner" Lady Kahina had installed on her ship a while ago?

Silly but testable theory: when in OUTFITTING, if you click on an internal slot, does the UA appear in the list of installable modules?!??!

I will test when I get back from deep space test.

 

[nilreb]

No and No

This definitely a good idea, even if it just proves we don't have persistent NPCs. I did try to follow one without a wake scanner using the Isinona technique of looking where the wake is pointing and going through the nav list one by one till I got a match... Of course that took too long and by the time I jumped he was long gone.

This was from Timocani, I'll see if I can find the system I think he jumped to.

If you just ignore them the UAs tend to eat through the cargo hatch before anything else. I'm not sure if that is some sort of intentional behaviour; it does seem that cargo hatches are easier to damage than other components.

No one listened to them! For a very last time:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=339&p=2208964&highlight=nilreb#post2208964
Proof:
Case #1 T9 disappear
Case #2 T9 gives nothing out

Show me one additional case where the UA come out! But legends hardly die ...
RedWizzard's loss (if i remember it was SOL system?) is a other tale if UA is in a player ship.
And I don't will post the trick how to manage that the T9 is no longer in wing before the other CMDR's (Ratking15/Wishblend/Murp/FYI I decloak) arrived.
For hunters: T9 lost mostly one wing at each jump/wake dive. Test this out with other convois if you don't believe.
But the most important thing: not to find in game anymore until today since 1.3 (for me). Thanks Frontier!
In exchange you can rank up to "Imperial Naval Prince" and "King" (of what?) ...

Mystery of the day: From what celestical body gain the station in "CROM" all these nice metals?

 

[Wishblend]

Just had a wacky idea, I want to through out to the community.

The sap 8 core container is a crystal power supply resting inside a gratify field that destabilises if damages (explodes like our power plants).

We have confirmed that the UA is a scanner of some sort, does anyone know if it has a crystal in it?

I am thinking that they may be parts of a new alien race ship (Not Thargoids, as they are inset type based) these new aliens use crystal basied technology.

Parts of a ship:-

Power plaint = Sap 8 core container
Scanner = Unknown Artefact
Drivers = ? (Some type of gravity drive)
Weapons = ? (Possibly crystal based harmonic resonance lasers)
Hull = ? (Organic based)

 

[nilreb]

Nice!
Also read again the resulting screens (if successfull finished) for "Answer the call of adventure" and "Sealing the deal"
Seems no one research deeper at these trinkets ...

P.S.
As giving REP is always limited thanks to all CMDR that bring in more facts and good ideas instead of absurd and often answered questions.
And always: look at the state of this game. Far far away from a complete "BradyGames" console game guide ... Often next day total other situation.

For the "mass" at "SAP 8" in game yet and position/demand in commodity market it is to expect that this will be soon go the way like "Painite" before.
Salvage/loot from non human derelict ships or "extractable" in any way.

 

[Wishblend]

Deep Space test, Currently 285.47 from civilisation space. = SYNUEFE TT-J C24-5

Well all I can say with this recording is have fun.

Deep Space test, Currently 285.47 from civilisation space. = SYNUEFE TT-J C24-5

I travelled out over 100.00 Ls from the nearest body, made sure that my jettison path didn't line up with distant nebula or the core of the galaxy.

In short, I aimed it so that when I analysed it, it would be pointing towards deep space where nothing should be.

There are some new sound harmonics I have never heard before so I hope you are all ready for something new.

http://www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6920083

Have Fun

 

[nilreb]

Great record again, no doubts.
Rep this CMDR CMDR's!

Only to exclude we all missing something really obvious: can you ensure a controll view at (the until yet unused) middle console (view down) next time?
Can't remember to see such test/view and currently unable to make it for myself. Sorry.
Not that there really a Tetris game came up ...
Now I'm also in the "absurd faction". Must leave this game...

Spoiler

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[Ratking15]

Thank you for doing the test (and thanks to QorbeQ for decoding it)! OK, speculation time (but with testable theory at the end).

If it acts like a scanner, and it speaks Morse then it is probably not wholly alien. It could be something human engineers made out of some alien component. Could this be the "custom built Gutamaya scanner" Lady Kahina had installed on her ship a while ago?

Silly but testable theory: when in OUTFITTING, if you click on an internal slot, does the UA appear in the list of installable modules?!??!

Sorry already did that test :/ nothing came from it and I did go to multiple high tech stations not just outposts...

 

[Han_Zen]

Well all I can say with this recording is have fun.

Deep Space test, Currently 285.47 from civilisation space. = SYNUEFE TT-J C24-5

I travelled out over 100.00 Ls from the nearest body, made sure that my jettison path didn't line up with distant nebula or the core of the galaxy.

In short, I aimed it so that when I analysed it, it would be pointing towards deep space where nothing should be.

There are some new sound harmonics I have never heard before so I hope you are all ready for something new.

http://www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6920083

Have Fun

Thanks again. Very good recording. Still not able to understand the Morse, but the chitter is quite long. Seems consistent with the long name. Needs to be confirmed.

@ all: read Nilrebs latest posts and check the links. Important info.

@ Redwizard: Your first UA fell out of the T9 by it selfe?
Do we have other confirmed cases?

 

[Le-Betz]

I'm not convinced that the artefact's honk is just a scanner tone. Our scanners can gather the data of whole systems with just one ping, why should something more advanced need four pings / sounds to accomplish that? It's the most prominent part of the recordings and there is this glowing visible on the sides of the artefact that look like the belly of a turtle every time these sounds are audible. It resembles whale songs so much that i can't help but suspect there could be some kind of meaning encoded in it (Devs might have watched Star Trek IV, too ).

These honks seem to come in two variants a two and a four tone sequence. The four tone sequence reminds me of the BACH motif, although the pitch is different.



This is purely speculative, but maybe 'listen to them' means more like listening to music than listen to a message or somebody speaking. Annoyingly my musical talent is pretty much non-existing. Is there anybody here at the forum with an absolute pitch, who can tell what notes does it play, some professional musician or a music teacher, maybe?

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but i've been reading through all posts here in the new artefact thread and was too lazy to read all of the old one.

 

[Jmanis]

Well all I can say with this recording is have fun.

Deep Space test, Currently 285.47 from civilisation space. = SYNUEFE TT-J C24-5

I travelled out over 100.00 Ls from the nearest body, made sure that my jettison path didn't line up with distant nebula or the core of the galaxy.

In short, I aimed it so that when I analysed it, it would be pointing towards deep space where nothing should be.

There are some new sound harmonics I have never heard before so I hope you are all ready for something new.

http://www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6920083

Have Fun

Pretty confident that, despite being in deep space, it's still the closest body to you.

The "TT-J" is really clear and "gapped" between the other portions.

I'm starting to form the idea that the chitter isn't *precisely* morse, but that each symbol's sound is generated off the morse sequence to create a sound. That's why it's much easier to pick the "simple" symbols out of the chitter (like T = dah, A = dit-dah) rathet than the more complex symbols (like 4 = dit dit dit dit dah)

 

[QorbeQ]

Deep Space test, Currently 285.47 from civilisation space. = SYNUEFE TT-J C24-5

This one reads SYNUEFE TTJ C245 (the dashes are not included in the morse)

The main name can get tricky to pick out simply because of the fact that if you lose your place it's difficult to get it back again, but you can clearly hear it starts with dit dit dit (S).

The TTJ is very clear in the middle after the first pause (dah ... dah ... dit dah dah dah) as is the C245 - C is dah dit dah dit, then the five-element numerals dit dit dah dah dah (2) dit dit dit dit dah (4) dit dit dit dit dit (5). If you've ever done any radio amateur morse, you know that CQCQ followed by your callsign is used as a callout when looking for contact (seek you), hence C is very recognisable for those people.

Exceptionally clear recording this time wishblend - thanks

EDIT: I'm by no means proficient at morse code, but given the name I can confirm whether that's what it says or not. It would be interesting to have one which is unidentified ... but I'm not really very good at long sequences as the dot/dash/space length varies. If it were a very clear recording with a name like this one with a main name, and two following sub names, then I could probably tell you what the second two were but maybe not the main bit

 

[Ratking15]

Thanks again. Very good recording. Still not able to understand the Morse, but the chitter is quite long. Seems consistent with the long name. Needs to be confirmed.

@ all: read Nilrebs latest posts and check the links. Important info.

@ Redwizard: Your first UA fell out of the T9 by it selfe?
Do we have other confirmed cases?

RedWizzard's was forght for while Wishblend's was the one that fell out. I haven't heard of other cases yet so :/

 

[Jmanis]

This one reads SYNUEFE TTJ C245 (the dashes are not included in the morse)

The main name is can get tricky to pick out simply because of the fact that if you lose your place it's difficult to get it back again, but you can clearly hear it starts with dit dit dit (S).

The TTJ is very clear in the middle after the first pause (dah ... dah ... dit dah dah dah) as is the C245 - C is dah dit dah dit, then the five-element numerals dit dit dah dah dah (2) dit dit dit dit dah (4) dit dit dit dit dit (5). If you've ever done any radio amateur morse, you know that CQCQ followed by your callsign is used as a callout when looking for contact (seek you), hence C is very recognisable for those people.

Exceptionally clear recording this time wishblend - thanks

Nice If you can hear it clearly then I'll take that as solid

Something I just picked up on, btw. Probably totally unrelated.

I've been dropping into every signal source I can find, not just Strong ones. On a couple occasions I've dropped into a USS and nothing has spawned.

First time this happened I went cold and silent, just to wait and see. Surprisingly, a wedding barge + escort spawned (after about 30 seconds). No cargo on board, but figured it was interesting.
Just dropped out at another USS where the same thing happened. Waited a good 2-3 minutes running normally, nothing. Then as soon as I went silent, a wedding barge + 2 escorts spawned.

Dunno if anything besides wedding barges will spawn, but I found it interesting that "going silent" seemed to be triggering the spawn. Could be worth doing if this ever happens to you.

 

[QorbeQ]

Wishblend - how on earth have you managed to keep hold of the UA for so long? You must be doing nothing in-game other than keeping a tight grip on it!

 

[Wishblend]

Well no hard combat as such, but I am flying around with it.

I put to repair units in for he trip out and back.

I am currently trying to find a empire promotion mission to rank up to Baron but can't find and at he moment.

I also keep a close eye on the cargo hatch, if it takes any damage I repair it to 100%