Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Sorry, but at what time is EKURU A 1 in there? It doesn't seem to be at the end, and I'd like to listen to it, compare it with the generated sample.

At the end, look for when I add the name Ekura a 1 to the twitch feed.

I will check later to find the correct time.

If it was missed of the recording, I will do a fresh one tomorrow.
 
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THARGOIDS SHOW INTEREST IN ICE WORLDS
M.C.S

The Thargoids have requested permission to send a scientific delegation to investigate the ice world Merlin. Apparently, their researchers believe that there may be similarities between the sub-polar eco-system of Merlin and certain local ecosystems which have evolved on their ammonia-based planets.

The temperature gradients involved in each case is different but some of the core principles are similar. Arrangements are being made to accommodate the mother ship and attendants in a variation of the local space station and human scientists from the Sirocco Institute will be in attendance to help answer whatever questions the visitors may have and to provide samples from some of the less accessible sites.

The visit is planned for the winter months when the conditions are coldest and the ice is at its most stable.

Fishing will be suspended for the duration of the visit to avoid possible offence to the Visitors

I always thought insects liked warm environments, isn't the thargoids a insect race?
 
The purrs seem meaningless at this time.

It's Honk => Chittering => Purrs => Repeat

The chittering is where the morse is.

The chittering seems to be "enclosed" in a very fast stretched clicking, ie while the morse is occurring there's a constant "stretched" clicking which to me seems to just be there as an indicator "location block here" sort of thing.

Sometimes there's a bit of overlap, occasionally a first quieter purr will occur just as or just before the "location block" ends,

The above cycle repeats itself over and over.

For a given UA deployment, the chittering stays consistent (or at least appears to) over cycles, the purrs however change which each cycle.

It's around 4-6 purrs, sometimes it seems the last purr is squashed by the honk coming in over the top so it's not always clear how many they are.

The purrs don't seem obviously to be morse in that for a set of purrs the gaps between each purr seems to be consistent, like it doesn't SEEM like there's a letter gap.

Caveat : Between the purrs there sometimes seems to be a short piece of high/low alternating audio, this changes in position across cycles and changes itself across cycles, it may encode something itself or it may be a start/end marker.

Here's a example cycle, this particular one has multiple "in between purrs".

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wqgs48hto3ohpcy/between_purrs.wav?dl=0

It goes :

  1. Honk/Wail
  2. Chittering [Location block]
  3. Purrs
    • Purr (Low)
    • Purr (High)
    • Inbetween purr (LHH?)
    • Purr (L)
    • Purr (H)
    • Purr (H)
    • Inbetween purr (HLH?)
  4. Honk/Wail

For the more curious, here's the full audio across multiple cycles the above was taken from : https://www.dropbox.com/s/gywdxpskw2ta3s7/ross_154_first.mp3?dl=0

As mentioned above (2) Purr block varies each time.

Morse key

Just did a proper listen over the Ross sample and the Morse angle is absolutely compelling, and an absolute work of beauty.

Regarding the purrs, I think it's

H L lhh L H H hlh

The key: CAPS for low-pitched 'grunt'; small for hi pitched chirp. I've used about 3 spaces for long gaps, only one for when a chirp is followed very quickly by a grunt, or the other way around.

Didn't make much sense to do it, but I've tried mapping the hi/low purrs to dots and dashes and vice-versa, and get nothing. That said, I don't get any meaningless characters either, so it might be mappable to Morse. The pitch changes must be significant, though.
 
Just something that piqued my interest while I was putting together my last post; the official Galnet post about Soontill relics mentioned that there was a human connection http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_Artefact#cite_note-17 - saying something like if the tech was old enough, it would seem alien...

Well, what we have here is tech that is using a form of human communication, and which looks and sounds alien, too.

To be clear - I'm not saying they're the same thing, clearly they're not. But it's possible that there could be more human in this thing than is strictly 'healthy', if you get my drift.

I was going to post all my purr->morse test results (got about 10 variants), but when you're getting text like 'TEWETTK', 'TEPTQ', 'ETDTEER' or 'ETXEF', then you know you've probably got nothing!
 
They are, but amomia boils at low temp. I don't think they can stand much heat at all without protection.

Without spoiling too much, the book "Out of Darkness" verifies the Oresrians (Thargoids) prefer & are comfortable at cold temperatures, though they can stand human temperatures if need be.

(Edit: I'm leaning on book lore because the authors had access to FDev's lore manuals, helped develop them further & required approval from FDev before publishing, suggesting they're at least consistent with the in-game universe.)
 
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Has anyone got anything from the Green / Purple colour pulses I mentioned a while back.

Sorry, the twitch app on Android is, as far as I can make out, as useful as a bowl of petunias.

I have been unable to get it to show me anything other than live streams. Its search function, too, is not even as good as Bing...
 
Has anyone got anything from the Green / Purple colour pulses I mentioned a while back.

I have checked it a bit. Did not find any thing. 4 bits of data per cycle is not a lot of data. You will offcource get numbers, but they seem random to me.
Writing the numbers in hex will give both FD and ED in some sequences :)
I also tried to put two and two thogether to make 8 bit ASCII, but I got nothing.

Maybe a smart person could find something ;-)
 
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Guys I have been thinking about hidden messages in the morse codes.

I am wondering if we need to look at a cypher type part of the puzzle.

We know that the ua scans system objects, the cypher code I am thinking of is a separate thing saying only use say the 3rd or 4th letter to read the hidden message.

We have a lot of things in the ua recordings, could any of the extra parts contain a code cypher of some sort?
 
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Just a thought - perhaps we're looking at the "sounds" from the wrong angle. Perhaps its not a code at all. Perhaps it is just saying "keep your ears open coz this is what we sound like". "If you hear something like this - we are near" Like, say, a helicopter flying past - there is no code in the sound it makes - its just a helicopter sound.
 
Without spoiling too much, the book "Out of Darkness" verifies the Oresrians (Thargoids) prefer & are comfortable at cold temperatures, though they can stand human temperatures if need be.

(Edit: I'm leaning on book lore because the authors had access to FDev's lore manuals, helped develop them further & required approval from FDev before publishing, suggesting they're at least consistent with the in-game universe.)
The Oresrians are not, in fact, another name for the Thargoids. They are another species altogether. The Dark Wheel describes them as almost alike, but having different markings on their thorax, and a different shape of the fourth joint on the hind legs. Supposedly, mistaking them for the Thargoids will really anger them, so it's a bad idea :p . I'm not sure if your referring to the Oresrians as being another name for the Thargoids, but if you aren't, please don't take offense. I'm pretty sure my information is accurate, as I've just read The Dark Wheel this morning, and I'm looking at the PDF book right now.
 
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Sorry guys been soaking up all the 'Merica I could this 4th of July week-end.

Ok did I read right someone said that they had heard Aster Ross 154 out of the UA? That makes a ton of sense given the Thargoids prior interest in Merlin for the frozen ammonia deposits during FFE.

Also Kerrash is starting to get interested in this? Fascinating.
 
Kerrash said he's going to try and get us another hint, I hope he can.

If he doesn't, he could at least pass by and tell us that FDev wants us to think our heads to burn trying to get the solution because we can't find that damn obvious solution they said.

I may not participate much, but I read every single comment and since the whole "it's much more obvious, you're overthinking it" thing, I've been breaking my mind trying to figure an obvious solution. With no results
 
The Oresrians are not, in fact, another name for the Thargoids. They are another species altogether. The Dark Wheel describes them as almost alike, but having different markings on their thorax, and a different shape of the fourth joint on the hind legs. Supposedly, mistaking them for the Thargoids will really anger them, so it's a bad idea :p . I'm not sure if your referring to the Oresrians as being another name for the Thargoids, but if you aren't, please don't take offense. I'm pretty sure my information is accurate, as I've just read The Dark Wheel this morning, and I'm looking at the PDF book right now.

Alright, so here's the problem with that. The world of the original Elite is essentially non-canon at this point (as are sources like Oolite & friends). They feature worlds that no longer exist, a wealth of sentient space-faring species (E: D currently has only humans & the former species the Imperials wiped out when claiming Achenar), descriptions of ship exteriors & paths through Witchspace/Faraway. (This pains me, having also read The Dark Wheel last night. :) ) We're not even sure what parts of F:E & F:FE are canon anymore, given that all we have is GalNet & flavor text.

Reading through Drew Wagar's posts on his blog give a sense of how far he, the other authors & the FDev writing staff have gone to create a coherent galaxy & backstory. If that's to be trusted, then "Out Of Darkness" should be nearly as canon as the game itself (or as the game was in pre-Alpha/Alpha). So, spoiler alert.

"Out Of Darkness talks at length about the Oresrians through the discourse of a highly-educated, highly-intellectual man who's formed an alliance with them. Carl (the primary antogonist) speaks about their history & intelligence. He informs another character (and us, by proxy) that the "Thargoids" are actually two groups/factions of (roughly) the same species: the Oresrians & the Klaxians. He makes a specific point of that they are both "Thargoids" . And the Klaxians are made to be aggressive - "...The Klaxians already push into Oresrian space, seeking to expand..." Source is Loc 5337 of the Kindle e-book.

The book also features two close-quarters encounters with the Oresrians & gives us some backstory on Peregrina (if you followed the old thread, it appears to have nothing to do with the community's tests with the UA).

If I could summon a Brookes for clarification, I would. I'd also ask "Do UA still appear in signal sources (perhaps not the same locations) in 1.3?"

I also wish we could ask Kerrash: "Having confirmed there's Morse in the UA's sound, is further audio analysis worthwhile or are the clues located elsewhere?"
 
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I still reckon it's going to turn out to be inactive Thargons, waiting for a mother ship to activate them when one gets within range.

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WE HAVE UNKNOWN ARTEFACT. Timocani, just outside Seega, in Mobius group.

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