Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Know what - this is genuinely turning into quite an interesting, if bonkers, idea: a miniature colony, modelled along the same tried and tested lines as a human space station.

Hmmm... That's actually not so easy to dismiss is it?

It all fits perfectly! :p
 
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One more insane (lore) idea to toss on the pyre. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/04-MAY-3301 talks about "As such, all potential artefact hunters are advised to travel as part of a wing in case of module failure." (I don't remember if that was part of the original player-submitted text)

I'm dubious about Sap 8, since it was added in a later update & I kinda want to believe this could've been solved in 1.2. But 1.2 *was* the Wings update.

Then Halsey's wing (Starflight One - https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/2d0472c6f8e7eee1966acb1f542cfb6a6689f379) were flung out of hyperspace when her battlecruiser's jump failed.

Perhaps being in a wing is critical to this? I'd be willing to test this one if some other commanders would be willing to wing up & slave their drives to mine.
 
Aye can do!

The only thing I can really add regarding the loss of Starship One is

##### 27 MAY 3301
##### Shades of the Antares Incident

“While we don’t know what caused this incident – yet – we do know that Starship One’s engines experienced an unexpected surge of power just seconds before making its last jump.”
 
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I like this current idea of flying in a wing to test the UA. If Starship One did disappear due to a UA being on board, then a wing might actually get us somewhere and we might even find Starship One. I wish you guys the best of luck and if there's any way I can help, I'll be more than happy to lend a hand.
 
So it's now too late for me to try to do the UA with 12 SAP 8 containers so......tomorrow about 19:30 ingame time at System HIP 46388 I will try to be online at Littrow Terminal to do the test so go there and send me a friend request while posting here that your coming to do it and your CMDR name if I do not have you friended yet.....

I can be there to help tomorrow (CMDR Branch). I'll only have 3 cargo space though, so we'll need at least another person.

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That is plausible. Full wing of 4 - where and when :)

How about 20:00 in-game time tomorrow, right after the Sap-8 test? Either HIP 43688 (only outposts - where the Sap-8 is happening) or I can travel to Timocani. CMDR Branch in-game, always taking friend requests. Alternatively, I can do closer to 02:00 in-game (6 hours later).

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Ratking15, Whishblend and RedWizzard did some tests in a wing of 3.
I don't know if they jumped with their drives slaved.

Damn, well, that'd put the kibosh on that. Probably not worth it then.
 
I can be there to help tomorrow (CMDR Branch). I'll only have 3 cargo space though, so we'll need at least another person.

I can do tomorrow if you want.

I am in an Anaconda though so likely to be using cargo limpets. I use them quite a bit and have not seen any issue with losing items, perhaps it's a Cobra issue only.
 
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Finally had a chance to give the wiki a 1st rinse.

I may have missed it, but have we run the tests with two UAs in the same system and then run the test with one of the two in a neighbouring system?

Running the two in the same system would give us a chance to see if anything changed or anything of note occurred.

Running them from different systems would give us a way of seeing if they're 'talking/looking/whatever' for each other. If they are trying to interact with each other, by having a known fixed point for both UAs (the one relative to the other and vice versa) we would have a fixed PG pattern.

I'm not closed to the idea that the colours mean nothing, but I think they bear a little more examination.

Yes to both.

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Aye can do!

The only thing I can really add regarding the loss of Starship One is

I still say it hasn't been destroyed, just jumped / shifted a long way out.

Power surge in fsd sends ship further?
 
Ratking15, Whishblend and RedWizzard did some tests in a wing of 3.
I don't know if they jumped with their drives slaved.

I wing jumped with my target nav locked to ratking.

Ratking had the ua at that time.

Question would be, should the ua be in one of the following ships or leading the wing?

Also, super cruise or normal space for the fsd jumps?
 
I haven't had much to say, but I have been watching.

I have a feeling that we are, as someone else said, overthinking this.

I'm reminded of the scene in the Lord of the Rings where the party is trying to persuade some great stone door to open, and using all sorts of complex spells to no effect until someone realizes that the inscription they saw did not say "speak friend and enter"...it said "SAY friend and enter". All they had to do was say "friend: in Dwarvish.

My point is that I wonder if we have missed/misinterpreted something really really simple. After all - if these things were designed to be useful (or inimical) to humans, they should NOT be hard to use....we shouldn't have to do a series of complex mathematical transformations.

Maybe - for instance - it is worth going through a list of spoken words/phrases. Hello/wake/speak/start/open/friend/etc/etc/etc. I'm sure others would have many more suggestions.

Do the Thargoids have a language? Do we know any of it?

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I haven't had much to say, but I have been watching.

I have a feeling that we are, as someone else said, overthinking this.

I'm reminded of the scene in the Lord of the Rings where the party is trying to persuade some great stone door to open, and using all sorts of complex spells to no effect until someone realizes that the inscription they saw did not say "speak friend and enter"...it said "SAY friend and enter". All they had to do was say "friend: in Dwarvish.

My point is that I wonder if we have missed/misinterpreted something really really simple. After all - if these things were designed to be useful (or inimical) to humans, they should NOT be hard to use....we shouldn't have to do a series of complex mathematical transformations.

Maybe - for instance - it is worth going through a list of spoken words/phrases. Hello/wake/speak/start/open/friend/etc/etc/etc. I'm sure others would have many more suggestions.

Do the Thargoids have a language? Do we know any of it?

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They have an octal system which implies the ability to do base-8 math. If you consider that potentially math itself is a language I'd say yes, though chances are they may have an actual "language".
 
I haven't had much to say, but I have been watching.

I have a feeling that we are, as someone else said, overthinking this.

I'm reminded of the scene in the Lord of the Rings where the party is trying to persuade some great stone door to open, and using all sorts of complex spells to no effect until someone realizes that the inscription they saw did not say "speak friend and enter"...it said "SAY friend and enter". All they had to do was say "friend: in Dwarvish.

My point is that I wonder if we have missed/misinterpreted something really really simple. After all - if these things were designed to be useful (or inimical) to humans, they should NOT be hard to use....we shouldn't have to do a series of complex mathematical transformations.

Maybe - for instance - it is worth going through a list of spoken words/phrases. Hello/wake/speak/start/open/friend/etc/etc/etc. I'm sure others would have many more suggestions.

Do the Thargoids have a language? Do we know any of it?

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Does anyone know the old dos commands.

I am thinking about possible text coms with a ua if you target it in space.

The few I remember are
Format
Run
Load
Help
Dir = (list directory)

I can't remember if there is a batch command to be used before them.

I bring this up as if it is not related to the thargoids, maybe it is an off shoot of old earth tech.

Anyway, it's something else to test.
 
I've been googling thargoid language - it seems that neither them nor us can work out each others language. So forget using words....how about a really simple sequence of light flashes? Not morse because that implies that they understand our language. how about blink pause blink blink wait for a response. In any number system except binary, the response should be blink blink blink....
 
"Does anyone know the old dos commands."



here is a list......http://www.computerhope.com/msdos.htm

You have to run "cmd" first to get into a dos box.

After that I'd suggest Dir first to see whats there, or maybe Dir C: If you see a .exe file, type its full name. Or maybe run *.exe would do something. or run *.bat or *.com or look for a .txt file. How about run help.txt.

Actually I rather like the idea that all we have to do is run the help file....

or send F1 to it - thats the old keyboard shortcut for "help"
 
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"Does anyone know the old dos commands."



here is a list......http://www.computerhope.com/msdos.htm

You have to run "cmd" first to get into a dos box.

After that I'd suggest Dir first to see whats there, or maybe Dir C: If you see a .exe file, type its full name. Or maybe run *.exe would do something. or run *.bat or *.com or look for a .txt file. How about run help.txt.

Actually I rather like the idea that all we have to do is run the help file....

or send F1 to it - thats the old keyboard shortcut for "help"

I f it turns out to be that simple, it would be funny.
 
I know I'm armchairing this one, I set off on a long journey a while back and am not in a position, literally, to come back and give hands on help; so I think whatever experiments those who own a UA want to carry out then they should fill their boots. Until we know what it 'is for', there are likely no silly ideas.

Apart from binary, that is! :p

So, just to add something to the earlier idea: if it's a little space station - then perhaps we need to find a way to send a docking request :)
 
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"Does anyone know the old dos commands."



here is a list......http://www.computerhope.com/msdos.htm

You have to run "cmd" first to get into a dos box.

After that I'd suggest Dir first to see whats there, or maybe Dir C: If you see a .exe file, type its full name. Or maybe run *.exe would do something. or run *.bat or *.com or look for a .txt file. How about run help.txt.

Actually I rather like the idea that all we have to do is run the help file....

or send F1 to it - thats the old keyboard shortcut for "help"

Evil as the devs. are they have probably put it on F0, like on the BBC.
 
"Does anyone know the old dos commands."



here is a list......http://www.computerhope.com/msdos.htm

You have to run "cmd" first to get into a dos box.

After that I'd suggest Dir first to see whats there, or maybe Dir C: If you see a .exe file, type its full name. Or maybe run *.exe would do something. or run *.bat or *.com or look for a .txt file. How about run help.txt.

Actually I rather like the idea that all we have to do is run the help file....

or send F1 to it - thats the old keyboard shortcut for "help"

Thats a pretty cool idea. Would be nice to see if the UA reacts to such text command in any way. I have not read about a test where this has been done.
 
Thats a pretty cool idea. Would be nice to see if the UA reacts to such text command in any way. I have not read about a test where this has been done.

I still remember being very upset when I typed in FDDQD and FDKFA into chat and did not get god mode or all the weapons .... Maybe someone should tell the UA - Klatu Burada Nicto ... or however that is spelled.
 
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