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UA inside a station? Potentially high risk though I think.

I just tried it with Hydrogen cannisters, jettisoned from the "top" of the station, and recovered them both, I think they bounced off the walls a few times though.
Tried it back in 1.2, with the help of another commander, but nothing interesting happened. (Just the regular fine for jettisoning stuff inside.) The UA's audio could not be heard over the docking bay's sounds, and it still degraded as usual.
 
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These are hard for me to decode (they take time and there's often audio over the top of the morse bit)

But about 5 mins into the video the 1st test I'm getting COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A.

(Seems to be an A on the end).

PLease try to work through all the tests and come up with a final resualt because I feel that it may prove something about the UA finally.....
 
In Timocani for the last couple of hours dropping into every SSS I see, and so far nothing to report (except there are two conflict zones there now which weren't there last night). I made a note back in the old days that I thought that the UA spawned on particular days rather than per X number of SSS per player, and I wonder if I was right, and if we can somehow map the dates they were found? I do remember seeing one on May 4 within about the first 10 SSS I dropped into after the first few were found, that was a hot day for the UA.

I'm happy to wing up and make it a social event rather than a solo grind, so come and meet me in Mobius and send a friend / wing request (Byker) if you fancy a bit of shared fruitless futility.. I do wonder if there is a reason behind them being so rare, or if its just FD being tight fisted with the fun.

Going to get some lunch, hopefully see someone out there later!
 
These are hard for me to decode (they take time and there's often audio over the top of the morse bit)

But about 5 mins into the video the 1st test I'm getting COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A.

(Seems to be an A on the end).

Is anyone else looking for this System? I can't search for anything longer than COL 285 SECTOR, even if I am staring at it. I've found COL 285 SECTOR ??-? B-17-3. So it definitely seems like it might actually exist, I just can't find it yet.

It's likely only a ~300 ly from Sol given the proximity of all the other COL 285 SECTOR stars. Moving along the core axis (X,Y,Z, Z being the third number on the map) raises the B##-# suffix, and moving along the X axis changes the Alphabetical Prefix for the most part.
 
Wacky Theory #31987234

Is there any chance the UAs act akin to Rosetta stones: providing the key to translating their language, or coordinate schema?

I.e. the Morse signal is the human coordinates, while the rest of the signal (noise, or lights) is the alien equivalent of the same coordinates. *IF* that were so, it would mean we'd know the alien name/signal for any location, though it still wouldn't tell us where to go; we'd still need some alien signal broadcasting a location in their coordinate schema.

Edit - I should add, there are some parallels between this, and the golden records on Voyager 1 and 2.
 
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Is anyone else looking for this System? I can't search for anything longer than COL 285 SECTOR, even if I am staring at it. I've found COL 285 SECTOR ??-? B-17-3. So it definitely seems like it might actually exist, I just can't find it yet.

It's likely only a ~300 ly from Sol given the proximity of all the other COL 285 SECTOR stars. Moving along the core axis (X,Y,Z, Z being the third number on the map) raises the B##-# suffix, and moving along the X axis changes the Alphabetical Prefix for the most part.

I'll reveal things if I'm correct but I'm waiting on someone to say what the video is giving us of morse code from the 3 tests.
 
PLease try to work through all the tests and come up with a final resualt because I feel that it may prove something about the UA finally.....

Well the Second one, snipped form about 10 mins in...
COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A again

Though it goes a bit fuzzy for me on the ZZs and the 7.

And the last one ~17mins in.

COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A again, bit fuzzy on the B17.

So in summary :
  1. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A
  2. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A
  3. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A

Only slightly unexpected thing I see really is the A in the end.

Are you trying to verify if it's utilising the ships scanner, ie what you're targetting as opposed to the local body?
 
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Yep it's something I've been trying to note down recently. If you speed the sound up 2x or so you can hear distinct tones, but after a while you get used to picking them out at 1x speed. One is slightly shorter than the other, and very slightly higher pitched.

For CMDR Branch's Sirius recording (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9SKX5vz7Qo) I get (counting only clear purrs before the howl):

?|-'--'|'--''|-''--|'--'-'|'-''-|'-'-'|'-''-|-'--'|--''-?<scooped>

The bars represent the howls, and the question mark bit represents blocks I couldn't hear between the start of the UA drop and the point at which the audio was clear enough to hear. But there are probably no more than 1 or 2 blocks missing. Mostly groups of 5 with on group of 6 in there.

It might be interesting to have someone drop the UA and the other listen using the camera drone to ensure the no data is missed when it first appears. Then run several scoop/drops to get end-to-end sequences.



Good thinking on the MC numbers as they are 5 tokens long, but unfortunately they don't seem to line up with what I've found so far.

1 '----
2 ''---
3 '''--
4 ''''-
5 '''''
6 -''''
7 --'''
8 ---''
9 ----'
0 -----


There's another thread around on investigating the sounds here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=142912

Given the recent blocks of 3/2 purrs in Ratking15's tests I think some of the summary on the first post might need updating, but it's a good start on what people have looked at so far. I'm going to dig through that today to make sure I'm not just running over ground already covered by someone else.

That said, I think during this thread activity there was a post from a member of FD suggesting we might be over thinking the problem, so might not be anything in the purrs after all. Still it's kinda fun to investigate it given it seems to have structure to it :)

As for possible encodings, recently it was pointed out to me (by a CMDR Snyper) that since they're in groups of 5 tokens they might be a form of Baudot Code, which was quite interesting as it's in line with old telecoms encodings, but unfortunately I've not found enough data to support it yet (didn't seem to decode to anything meaningful). Also that doesn't fit with the groups of 3/2 purrs found in ratking15's recordings.

One interesting property of the (pre-howl) purrs so far is that the ' and - never seem to be longer than runs of 2 in any given block. So if you have two -- then the next token always seems to be ' (so far), and for '' then next always seems to be - (so far). At least as far as the recordings I've heard anyway, so might be nothing.

Can someone please look for what the morse code is saying in this twitch stream? I freashly recorded it now: http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6951043

I noted down the purrs of this record with ' being high pitched purr, - low pitched and | being howls. Also note there is a long pause AFTER each howl, including the first one.

| - ' - ' ' | - - ' ' - | - ' - - ' | ' - ' - ' | - ' - ' - | <scoop>

| - - ' - ' | ' ' - - ' ' | ' - - ' ' - | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - - ' | <scoop>

| - ' - - ' | ' ' - ' - - | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - ' ' | - ' - - ' | <scoop>

This time there are several sets of 6 purrs before the howl. Some of the 6th purrs are almost cut off by the howl, but they are still clearly distinguishable so I noted them down as well.
 
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Hi just to say I'm itching to do this, but can't as I can't get to a computer. Bitstorm's your man, though ;)

I suspect you may have a better ear than me, it's difficult to do!

Though after a bit you seem to get the rhythm sort of thing.

Verifications welcome!
 
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Well the Second one, snipped form about 10 mins in...
COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A again

Though it goes a bit fuzzy for me on the ZZs and the 7.

And the last one ~17mins in.

COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A again, bit fuzzy on the B17.

So in summary :
  1. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A
  2. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A
  3. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A

Only slightly unexpected thing I see really is the A in the end.

Are you trying to verify if it's utilising the ships scanner, ie what you're targetting as opposed to the local body?

Good work Bitstorm :D

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I suspect you may have a better ear than me, it's difficult to do!

Though after a bit you seem to get the rhythm sort of thing.

Verifications welcome!

I doubt better - I will confirm, if needed, however, as soon as i can. I tend to work backwards - seems easier to go from where you know end of the Morse is...
 
Just an idea, is the Morse code transmitting the nav position of where it is now or where it was picked up from?

If it is transmitting the position of where it was picked up from, has anyone thought of returning it?
 
FWIW Ratking's Twitch view explains the reasoning at 20:50.

I canl;t make it out above the game audio though, can anyone decode! ;)
 
Well the Second one, snipped form about 10 mins in...
COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A again

Though it goes a bit fuzzy for me on the ZZs and the 7.

And the last one ~17mins in.

COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A again, bit fuzzy on the B17.

So in summary :
  1. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A
  2. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A
  3. COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3A

Only slightly unexpected thing I see really is the A in the end.

Are you trying to verify if it's utilising the ships scanner, ie what you're targetting as opposed to the local body?

Well that confirms it for me.....the UA is essentially a very basic surface discovery scanner since the system I was in as you can see in the video was COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3 which came up in all three tests but there's an A at the end of it all, now that A stands for the star that I was right next to and in previous tests the UA's morse code has been the names of the closest Celestial Objects to them so it is somehow scanning the object and getting the name from some sort of database or pregenerated name since that system (I think) has no discovery titles next to any objects in it, no one had been there and sold the data!

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FWIW Ratking's Twitch view explains the reasoning at 20:50.

I canl;t make it out above the game audio though, can anyone decode! ;)

Sorry I dunno what's happening but my mic vollume kept dropping below the ingame volume.....I'm trying to sort it out but it's a smaller version of what I said above.
 
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Sorry was COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3 an "unexplored" system? i.e. never been visited be humans before?
 
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I noted down the purrs of this record with ' being high pitched purr, - low pitched and | being howls. Also note there is a long pause AFTER each howl, including the first one.

| - ' - ' ' | - - ' ' - | - ' - - ' | ' - ' - ' | - ' - ' - | <scoop>

| - - ' - ' | ' ' - - ' ' | ' - - ' ' - | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - - ' | <scoop>

| - ' - - ' | ' ' - ' - - | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - ' ' | - ' - - ' | <scoop>

This time there are several sets of 6 purrs before the howl. Some of the 6th purrs are almost cut off by the howl, but they are still clearly distinguishable so I noted them down as well.
Assume low pitch is long, high pitch is short:
_._.. __.._ _.__. ._._. _._._
__._. ..__.. .__.._ _..__. _..__.
_.__. .._.__ _..__. _.._.. _.__.

Put it through a translator : ??<KN><AR><CT>?????<KN>???<KN>
Assume Low pitch is short, high pitch is long:
._.__ ..__. ._.._ _._._ ._._.
.._._ __..__ _..__. .__.._ .__.._
._.._ __._.. .__.._ .__.__ ._.._

Put it through translator: ???<CT><AR>?,????????

It seems like the low pitch must be longs, and the high pitch the shorts. Does this mean anything? Is there another way to interpret it?
 
Yes, I'm in elite dangerous right now, looking at it and I can't buy exploration data for it at all.

"First discovered by Voidsoul"

I honestly have no idea how they work out what you can and can't buy but COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3 has been discovered.

To be honest I think we'd be hard pushed to find a system that's not been discovered within 1000LY of Sol. Maybe this is what we should be looking for?

The nearest I think are likely to be above or below the populated area, people either go straight for the core, to the outer arms or to the nearest nebulas.
 
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"First discovered by Voidsoul"

I honestly have no idea how they work out what you can and can't buy but COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3 has been discovered.

To be honest I think we'd be hard pushed to find a system that's not been discovered within 1000LY of Sol. Maybe this is what we should be looking for?

The nearest I think are likely to be above or below the populated area, people either go straight for the core, to the outer arms or to the nearest nebulas.

Well still I can't get exploration data for it right now.....and still it proves it though that it is what I think it is a sort of scanner.
 
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