Well we did find that out independently a few days ago.
I'm still looking for purr transcripts by the way, if anybody has them. We've established that my own hearing is not good enough.
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Yes, and of course it has been tried.
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Well we did find that out independently a few days ago.
I'm still looking for purr transcripts by the way, if anybody has them. We've established that my own hearing is not good enough.
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Yes, and of course it has been tried.
I've just waited three hours for my audio boffins (ahem, me) to complete their work on one of RatKing15's vids to try and 'decode' the purrs.
I'll post the full details here shortly, once I've got mp3s uploaded of all the different sound files the analysis produced.
One thing - only really found 5 purrs between honks, except in one case, where there were 6. Each honk is accompanied by its own low purrs, so it was discounted.
The report is very 'dry' - so you'll have to allow some stylistic license
Also, it doesn't really contain anything that hasn't already been suggested/observed by anyone else. Can't help thinking that that's three hours I should've spent carrying on my exploration jaunts...
I'll post the full details here shortly, once I've got mp3s uploaded of all the different sound files the analysis produced.
One thing - only really found 5 purrs between honks, except in one case, where there were 6. Each honk is accompanied by its own low purrs, so it was discounted.
The report is very 'dry' - so you'll have to allow some stylistic license
Also, it doesn't really contain anything that hasn't already been suggested/observed by anyone else. Can't help thinking that that's three hours I should've spent carrying on my exploration jaunts...
I'm getting sick of stuff I post being completely ignored, and then when someone else posts the same thing, it gets jumped over as important information. This is the 3rd or 4th time now this has happened
I first mentioned the lack of 000/111 2 weeks ago today.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=624&p=2482236&viewfull=1#post2482236
Don't take it personally, this threadnought is a fulltime job and things get missesd all the time. Why, if you go through all of my posts you will see that I have been 100 % accurate since the beginning. Not.
Here is a good collection(from the reddit thread): https://github.com/jspoto/UnknownArtifact/blob/master/signals.txt
I had have this + the four i have made myself in this post. I had some more but i lost some of them a while ago. Also most of the time i just wrote them down temporaly to see if there is something special.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=620&p=2477602&viewfull=1#post2477602
At the moment this are the numbers i have:
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UA1: 010011 0101011 1011001 0100110 0100101 1001010 1001001 0101011 x001001 1100110 1010110
UA2: *11011 100100 011011 110010 010110 010010 100110 0110101 0101100 0110010 1100110
UA3: 101100 101001 0101100 0011011 1011001 0010010 0010100 0100110 0110010 1001011 1010110
UA4: *00110 0011001 001100 0011010 1010110 0010011 0110110 1001101 1001100 1001011 101001.
UA5: 101101 011010 010101 0101011 1001001 0110010 1010110 0101010 0110011 0101001 1101001
UA6 100100 0010010 1001011 0100101 0110011 1101010 0011010 100101 0110101 0110110
UA?: 00100 100100 0110101 0100100 1001011 1100110 1010010 1010110 0011001 0110011 0110110
UA?: 0101101 0011011 1010110 1001101 0011001 0110101 0011001 0110100 1010011 0100110
UA7: 011011 0110010 1001101 100101 010010 0010110 1101001 0010110 1011001 0100110 1010100
UA8: 1011001 0100110 100110 101001 101011 1101100 0110011 1100110 1001101 0101101 0101011
UA9: 1010011 0110011 1001100 1001011 1010011 0100100 1011011 0110011 1100100 1001001 0100101
#e_1 110011 101100 1001011 011001 0010010 0110011 0101100 0110110 1001010 1100100 0100110
#e_2 0101001 010100 101010 1011011 1101100 1001101 0010100 101001 0110110 1010100 1011001
#e_3 011011 011001 0110011 110011 1100101 001001 1101100 0110100 1100110 0101010 001010?
#e_4 011011 011001 1001100 1001100 010110 1010010 100100 1001010 0011001 0110010 1001011
#e_5 011010 011001 0010100 100100 1011010 101011 1100110 1001100 1011010 100100
#e_6 101101 011001 1101101 010010 1001011 0011001 1011010 1011011 0110101 0011001
#e_7 0100100 1001101 1011001 011001 001001 1001101 010010 1011001 1001101 0110101 0110110
#e_8 1100101 0100110 0100110 1100101 1001001 001101 1001101 0011011 0110110 0100110 1001100
#e_9 1010110 0101101 1001001 0010010 100101 010110 1101101 0101101 1011011 1011010 1010101
#e_0 1001101 0100110 1001010 001100 001011 1100100 1101011 1101001 1001100 1010010 0110110
#e_1 1011001 0010011 0011001 011010 110101 1010010 0100110 1010110 1001001 0100101 0011011
#e_2 0110011 101010 101011 0101011 0011010 0100110 1010100 0110010 0110100
#e_3 0100100 1001101 1001001 1001100 010010 0011010 0110100 1011011 0010011 1011001 0010110
my1: 011010 001001 0101010 101101 0100101 1100101 1001101 1101010 1011001 #diffa
my2: 100110 001001 001001 1011011 1011011 0100110 1101100 #diffb
my3: 011001 100110 1010011 1011001 0010101 010100 0010010 #same a
my3: 10x101 0110101 1001001 1100110 1001001 1010011 1011010 #same bThey are partially from the file above, some of them are mine. Btw: the numbers from the file seem to be at least partially from this thread:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=142912&page=1
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Thanks, that's really helpful! I have been collating what I got here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mGAftHi6zlLNPFs1vUParJAMRwALnvzc1tR_K1vbMuI
I'll see how I can merge all this stuff.
I'm getting sick of stuff I post being completely ignored, and then when someone else posts the same thing, it gets jumped over as important information. This is the 3rd or 4th time now this has happened
I first mentioned the lack of 000/111 2 weeks ago today.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=624&p=2482236&viewfull=1#post2482236
Yes, this happens all the time. To me too. I think it's just too much to expect to keep track of so many posts.
Uhmm, I don't know if anyone already remarked about this, but about the location you were listening to the UA:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/55a632b69657ba7a49f67b11
Galnet just mentioned that the Cerberus plague broke out at 20 Ophiuchi and there is even a CG to send medicines.
From the Active CG thread (notice the station):
System: 20 Ophiuchi
Station: Chargaff Port
Objective: Sell Medicines to Chargaff Port
How: Buy from High Tech and Industrial stations
Ends: 21 July 3301 15:00
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yeah...how many pages do we have now with all the artifact topics now?^^Yes, this happens all the time. To me too. I think it's just too much to expect to keep track of so many posts.
i would bet that this is by far the biggest topic on the forum
i think thats the reason why they tried it there.
the plague was first
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I'm getting sick of stuff I post being completely ignored, and then when someone else posts the same thing, it gets jumped over as important information. This is the 3rd or 4th time now this has happened
I first mentioned the lack of 000/111 2 weeks ago today.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=624&p=2482236&viewfull=1#post2482236
Believe me, pretty much everything about the purring has been noted before. If you look at the original UA thread, and the sideline audio-UA-thread, the run-length-limit and many (MANY) encoding techniques have been discussed and discounted.
I've put way more hours into the purrs than is reasonable and have come to the conclusion that the run-length-limit is intriguing and the purrs are compelling regarding information-carrying possibility, but ultimately I think it might be a dead end.
I've posited this before in the old thread - have you tried timing the period when the purrs go silent (i.e. honk and chitter when the device is "active")? Try it (especially sped up as it's significantly easier). I think you'll find that the gap is exactly the space that a multiple of purrs would fit in (depending on the length of the chittering). I believe this is because the purrs are muted/masked by the honk and chittering, but that they are still beating out their heartbeat rhythm behind the scenes. This means that we only ever hear 60-70% of the "bitstream" that comprises the purring, which, in itself, means that there isn't any data to be gleaned as the "designers" of the device would surely make sure that the data was receivable rather than having a significant portion of it blanked out.
Now, the run-length-limit itself may indicate some kind of error correction, and the good ones would easily cope with such massive data loss, but (and I've essentially said this before too) I think it's an incredible stretch to assume that FDev would make something needing a) finding an incredibly rare object, b) spending loads of time capturing an incredibly slow data stream, c) synchronising the results of the individual data captures somehow, d) using a detailed knowledge of data encoding methodology to extract information from the "data".
And (yet again, repeating myself) - the sound of the purrs being binary, and hence containing useful information, is very compelling but ultimately I think is a dead end.
EDIT: That's not to say that the purrs may not indicate SOMETHING, just that having them encode specific data which can be extracted isn't likely. The recent discovery of a system / location / circumstance where only 2 or 3 purrs was audible is interesting - did we find out if that was just for one viewer or if all participants (if more than one) were getting such a slow "beat"?
EDIT-2: And can we re-create the situation?
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OK guys, just a coffee break thought.
Voyagers have disappeared. Voyagers had the golden record which had Morse transmissions, whale sounds, Pulsar noises (perhaps similar to the UA purrs) and other recordings as well.
UAs have Morse, whale sounds, purring (possibly similar to Pulsar noises).
Perhaps that is all there is - someone has found Voyager, figured out Morse, heard the whales and the Pulsars, and this is their attempt to contact us. QED and end of story for now.
BTW, the weird symbols on the head of the thing also look like two snakes facing each other, with a sun and two planets (or planet and two moons) rising between them. Just sayin'.
Voyagers have disappeared. Voyagers had the golden record which had Morse transmissions, whale sounds, Pulsar noises (perhaps similar to the UA purrs) and other recordings as well.
UAs have Morse, whale sounds, purring (possibly similar to Pulsar noises).
Perhaps that is all there is - someone has found Voyager, figured out Morse, heard the whales and the Pulsars, and this is their attempt to contact us. QED and end of story for now.
BTW, the weird symbols on the head of the thing also look like two snakes facing each other, with a sun and two planets (or planet and two moons) rising between them. Just sayin'.
Volunteering! You'll be lucky though, people having been trying for ages.
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The theory that the UA could emit some kind of plague is as old as the ua itself. Many people thought so in cause of the cloud around the artefact and the fact that the thargoids got hit hard by a mycoid virus created by humanity. In my eyes this kind of vengeance would be not too far fetched.
I think i'll head there this evening(if i have enough time) and check if i can find UAs in Signal Sources. Would be a strange coincidence if they spawn that close to this plague.
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Cerberus plague? Why is it called that? Many headed dog - many headed thingamabobs like on the UA?
Well there are references in the galnet newsfeed to speculation on outbreaks possibly being caused by the UA`s. In the galnet newsfeed devoted to the mysterious transmission about Arcannon, the mystery broadcaster warned against “history repeating itself”. Any thoughts in regards to how this might apply to past events in Elite lore? How about the mycoid thing with the thargoids. Could the UA be related in some way? Im afraid that outside galnet newsfeeds, I know next to nothing about the lore.
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I'm getting sick of stuff I post being completely ignored, and then when someone else posts the same thing, it gets jumped over as important information. This is the 3rd or 4th time now this has happened
I first mentioned the lack of 000/111 2 weeks ago today.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=624&p=2482236&viewfull=1#post2482236
Ahhh, I don't think it's anything personal.
The thing is, that's been pointed out many times.
A lot of people just don't bother replying because we've replied to that same thing 3,4,5 times already over the period of this thread (and others). You feel like you're addressing the same things over and over so you just skip over those and let someone else address them.
Then the newcomers who haven't seen a post about it before pick on it and discuss.
On this specific lack of 000/111, the reply (well mine) as to why there's no triple digit ones is this....
There's a difference between true random and pseudo random. Pointing out the lack of 000s or 111s is assuming it's true random.
ED uses procedural generation throughout, for marketplace data, in the stellar forge for star generation, for spawns, even for in-game background audio.
I would not be surprised if the purrs are procedurally generated, essentially random although not true random.
Could be wrong but given none's found a consistely reproducable pattern yet, and given one UA sounds different depending on who's listening, I'm realy leaning to the purrs being procedurally generated on the client.
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Yes, I was wondering something similar myself.
If FD have been trying to drop hints to us, I wonder if these plague CGs are something.
The He Bo CG was around the time we found the first UAs, the previous plague CG was around the time mrtree found another UA and we started making progress with the morse code.
If they are trying to hint at something with these, then they would appear to be doubling-down with the 3 new plague CGs and the description of the Cerberus virus after some requests for more hints from Arcanonn and others a few days ago.
But if it is a hint, what exactly are they trying to tell us?
I know UAs have been taken to plague systems several times and nothing seems to have popped out.
Should we be searching SSS in these systems for UA or something else?
Should we be selling UA at these systems?
(Not in-game currently, do all three of the new CG stations have black markets?)
Also, there is the supposedly sentient race wiped out by the empire on Capitol. Heres an article from 2014, where it is hinted that we may get to find out more about that sentient race in this game. Its speculation of course, but interesting in its own way. http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/4/7333709/elite-dangerous-milky-way-stellar-forge-human-cruelty
I also noted that. But i think i classified this as "programmer lazyness". The reason for this is because there are so many pretty quiet purrs at the beginning. They start to "fade in" when the glow-sequence is over. Not from 0 to 100% in one step, but slowly to allow a smooth transition between this audio track and the others in all situations.
This was also one of the reasons i thought there is no special code in here because it would be pretty difficult to give out the sound that is necessary at this position to make any sense.
Ahh, okay, I was wondering since the Galnet news article was from today.
As for distribution, all four locations mentioned with health problems do seem sort of close to eachother, but otherwise can't find any link. And not near any of the locations where UAs have been 'found'.
I'm getting sick of stuff I post being completely ignored, and then when someone else posts the same thing, it gets jumped over as important information. This is the 3rd or 4th time now this has happened
I first mentioned the lack of 000/111 2 weeks ago today.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=624&p=2482236&viewfull=1#post2482236
The UA threads are very busy, and people tend to get a bit excited and post as soon as they think of something without reviewing the entire thread to see if anyone else has said the same.
For instance just a few days ago I posted that I've solved the puzzle, visited the alien homeworld and now have a pet Thargoid called Ronald, and not one person has quoted it. Except Ronald, of course.
On the 000/111 thing - one possible explanation is that the message is a sequence of base-4 values. i.e :
00 - 0, or perhaps "A"
01 - 1, B
10 - 2, C
11 - 3, D
I don't know what kind of data would need - or only need - a base-4 character set.
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