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Cmdr Clade

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I know people have tried releasing them in stations - no plague results. What if the plague is only released when they explode....Like Phages...We cannot test this, of course - Please don't! But I don't think we can totally discount them being plague carriers because of this.

Just out of interest - does anyone know what system the video of the UA exploding was made in? Is it anywhere near the current plague areas?
 

clavain

clavain
LordZoltan said:
Yeah and there's been no real statement from anyone FD as to which path we are on. I wasn't privvy to FFE - but am aware you're somewhat of an expert ;)
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I wouldn't say I'm an expert, I just read the Journals here: http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/first-encounters/journals/


Any fictionheads read all the new books? I've got MBs book in my special boxed set, that I've opened once or twice to show to people; and then promptly put away again in the vault (so, not read the book - need to address that!); and I'm a little way into Drew's rather nice 'Reclamation' - but anyone who's read all of them able to say if there's anything in those that can give us a clue where the human race left it with the Thargs in the E:D timeline?
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I've read Drew's, John Harper's, Kate Russell's, Allen Stroud's and T. James', and had a look at some of the others. Unfortunately I read most of them before I was aware of how important some of the lore hints in them might be, so ended up going back and re-reading some of them. There are definite hints on how things are going to happen (or might have already happened, depending on timeline), and some of the authors have admitted they collaborated a bit on seeding some of those hints in the books. In terms of what the Thargoids (aka Oresrians and Klaxians) may or may not be doing, John Harper's and T. James' seem to have the most info in them. I may have posted a summary on that somewhere, can't recall now... ;-)

Something doesn't feel right about this UA being the source of the current outbreak(s) - that story immersion could so easily be broken by CMDRs taking it to stations, letting it loose inside (which has been done), and there not being a subsequent outbreak (which there wasn't). Unless the delivery mechanism is more complex than simply letting the UA 'all hang out', and requires weaponising in some way.
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Agreed.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Cmdr Clade said:
I know people have tried releasing them in stations - no plague results. What if the plague is only released when they explode....Like Phages...We cannot test this, of course - Please don't! But I don't think we can totally discount them being plague carriers because of this.

Just out of interest - does anyone know what system the video of the UA exploding was made in? Is it anywhere near the current plague areas?
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The one I;ve seen is 109 Virginis.
 

Cmdr Clade

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Saool said:
This (and the previous thread) is indeed a fantastic read and endeavour. Sometimes however I can just picture the devs all gathered around a monitor...

Dev 1 "What are they up to now?"

Dev 2 "They are counting the number of pits on the head of the UA, and the number of dimples per head and looking for mathematical relationships within those numbers..."
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Puts tin hat on Is "Saool" secretly a dev trying to give us a clue? (just kidding) (probably)
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
I have come to a conclution.

The UA knows Morse, has a Mayan calender and is covered in Greek symbolism.

The only explantion for this is that it is ancient human.

More presicely, it was built in Grece in 2011.
In 2011 Grece was a very rich nation. Mainly due to the sale of alcohole to the youth of northern Europe.
Due to political stress regarding the Mayan 2012 prophecy, the Greek government decided to build ten space probes to carry a total of 1200 billion Euros in to deep space.
They probes was set to return in 2014 if earth still existed.
Due to the compexity of the Mayan date system, a totally wrong return date was punched. The Greek artefacts are still out there, scanning to find Athens.

:-/
 

daygobah

daygobah
So with so many people searching for the UA's we must now have found more of them right.

The Wikia for this entry should be corrected.

Let Them Die!
A theory was proposed that there are only a limited number of UA's available and that the next step will only be accessible if we let them all expire naturally. There is no evidence for this, indeed the UA has been left to expire without consequence previously and given that we have no way of knowing how many are in existence at any one time in the game, it was broadly refuted. In addition, similarly to the 'Sell It' theory, consensus between the UA custodians was that there is still much research work to do before we risk their sacrifice in the name of a hunch.

The title should be "Let them finish what they are designed to do"

Also second sentence is wrong. When watching the video of them finishing what they are designed to do they explode from bottom to the top node emiting a space field type pulse. Or spacial distortion. Possibly dimensional rift. It is not a one time graphic glitch two videos of them at the final stages show this.

Also this is not refuted because the last of them have not finished what they are designed to do. Once the last one is gone and nothing at all happens ever again. Then it would be refuted.

Consensus between two people is not really that big of a deal. There are only 2 of them left right now.

Explain to me why you think packing these objects around when they cant even last for more then few minutes on their own. IS anyway scientific. They are not meant to travel between the stars like our ships. They dont even like being in our ships. You cant even argue the dev bug that a station keeps repairing the ships system for free.

This is what should replace it on wikia

Let them finish what they are designed to do

A theory was proposed that there are only a limited number of UA's available and that the next step will only be accessible if we let them all finish what they are designed to do. Generally they scan an area we think. Then they seem to explode from the bottom of the structure toward the head/node. During this burst of energy in the vector of the explosion a strange space field type pulse, or spacial distortion, or possibly dimensional rift happens. Either the UA's explode or it travels to new location or home. This theory seems the most logical as time goes by. For one the theory of packing it in cargo to different location is down right nutty. Moving a UA around long distances when it does not last long on its own or like being in our ships cargohold. That should be a redflag to all that maybe it doesnt want to be moved around. That maybe it has its own way of moving around, or it was never designed to be moved around.
 
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Smoky

Smoky
LazerusKI said:
We should try turning it off and on again...shooting it with a Pulse Disruptor for example
(just kidding)

maybe its simpy nothing that we should translate?
btw, just as a question, i bet you have tried that allready...do you know these radios in portal?
there was an easteregg, where you could decode the "sound" of them on specific locations and translate it into a picture, there it formed the valve-head guy then.
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Sorry if someone already thought of this there's been a lot of posts since i got off work and i'm making my way to the front still.

The Golden disc had stuff like that too, and if these things are a nod to them in any way this might work. Can some one with the know how try this out? here is the link for the golden record instructions http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec_more.html
 

clavain

clavain
OK, another thought from the lore. Remember those symbols on the UA that I said might look like two snakes facing each other, with a sun with two planets or a planet with two moons rising between them (or the head of the dog with two eyes someone mentioned)? Yeah, that one. You know the one. I'm too lazy to go back and find an image in the thread. But anyways, I digress. What if it is actually something like this:

The head is a triangular ovoid in shape, with prominent faceted eyes mounted to the front. In general, the overall impression is similar to that of a praying mantis. There are two short antennae that protrude from the top of the head. The mouth is on the underside of the front point of the triangular head, and is relatively small. It is surrounded to two strong mandibles. The neck is very short but thick and sturdy, and can rotate 60 degrees.
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What is this, you ask? Well, the head of an Oresrian of course: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oresrians

Which looks like this, maybe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Gottesanbeterin_Abwehr.JPG

Imagine the head and two mandibles of that thing upside down, and depicted abstractly, then look at the depictions on the UA (Edit: or rotate the photo of the UA symbols instead of imagining an upside down mantis). Plus, don't the darn things have an odd resemblance to the UA and Phages as well? That could just be the beer talking though, not sure: https://www.google.ca/search?q=pray...6qPexgIVD46SCh36rAVk&biw=1422&bih=714&dpr=0.9
 
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Ratking15

Ratking15
daygobah said:
So with so many people searching for the UA's we must now have found more of them right.

The Wikia for this entry should be corrected.

Let Them Die!
A theory was proposed that there are only a limited number of UA's available and that the next step will only be accessible if we let them all expire naturally. There is no evidence for this, indeed the UA has been left to expire without consequence previously and given that we have no way of knowing how many are in existence at any one time in the game, it was broadly refuted. In addition, similarly to the 'Sell It' theory, consensus between the UA custodians was that there is still much research work to do before we risk their sacrifice in the name of a hunch.

The title should be "Let them finish what they are designed to do"

Also second sentence is wrong. When watching the video of them finishing what they are designed to do they explode from bottom to the top node emiting a space field type pulse. Or spacial distortion. Possibly dimensional rift. It is not a one time graphic glitch two videos of them at the final stages show this.

Also this is not refuted because the last of them have not finished what they are designed to do. Once the last one is gone and nothing at all happens ever again. Then it would be refuted.

Consensus between two people is not really that big of a deal. There are only 2 of them left right now.

Explain to me why you think packing these objects around when they cant even last for more then few minutes on their own. IS anyway scientific. They are not meant to travel between the stars like our ships. They dont even like being in our ships. You cant even argue the dev bug that a station keeps repairing the ships system for free.

This is what should replace it on wikia

Let them finish what they are designed to do

A theory was proposed that there are only a limited number of UA's available and that the next step will only be accessible if we let them all finish what they are designed to do. Generally they scan an area we think. Then they seem to explode from the bottom of the structure toward the head/node. During this burst of energy in the vector of the explosion a strange space field type pulse, or spacial distortion, or possibly dimensional rift happens. Either the UA's explode or it travels to new location or home. This theory seems the most logical as time goes by. For one the theory of packing it in cargo to different location is down right nutty. Moving a UA around long distances when it does not last long on its own or like being in our ships cargohold. That should be a redflag to all that maybe it doesnt want to be moved around. That maybe it has its own way of moving around, or it was never designed to be moved around.
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Yet again you ignore counters to your points......and just cling to what you've said while not changing the wiki yourself since anyone can do the changes. Also then.....if it hurts our ship like toxic waste.....then does toxic waste which is made up of all sorts of waste like extriment want to stay still and again wouldn't keeping extriment in us, eventually kill us?
 

clavain

clavain
daygobah said:
So with so many people searching for the UA's we must now have found more of them right.

The Wikia for this entry should be corrected.
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Umm, except someone just found another one, and someone else saw one in a convoy and just missed getting it. Among other reasons.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
clavain said:
OK, another thought from the lore. Remember those symbols on the UA that I said might look like two snakes facing each other, with a sun with two planets or a planet with two moons rising between them (or the head of the dog with two eyes someone mentioned)? Yeah, that one. You know the one. I'm too lazy to go back and find an image in the thread. But anyways, I digress. What if it is actually something like this:


What is this, you ask? Well, the head of an Oresrian of course: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oresrians

Which looks like this, maybe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Gottesanbeterin_Abwehr.JPG

Imagine the head and two mandibles of that thing upside down, and depicted abstractly, then look at the depictions on the UA. Plus, don't the darn things have an odd resemblance to the UA and Phages as well? That could just be the beer talking though, not sure: https://www.google.ca/search?q=pray...6qPexgIVD46SCh36rAVk&biw=1422&bih=714&dpr=0.9
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They are there on the UA. I compared them to ants. Mantis is better.
But who are the 3 guys with long antennaes? :)
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
clavain said:
OK, another thought from the lore. Remember those symbols on the UA that I said might look like two snakes facing each other, with a sun with two planets or a planet with two moons rising between them (or the head of the dog with two eyes someone mentioned)? Yeah, that one. You know the one. I'm too lazy to go back and find an image in the thread. But anyways, I digress. What if it is actually something like this:



What is this, you ask? Well, the head of an Oresrian of course: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oresrians

Which looks like this, maybe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Gottesanbeterin_Abwehr.JPG

Imagine the head and two mandibles of that thing upside down, and depicted abstractly, then look at the depictions on the UA. Plus, don't the darn things have an odd resemblance to the UA and Phages as well? That could just be the beer talking though, not sure: https://www.google.ca/search?q=pray...6qPexgIVD46SCh36rAVk&biw=1422&bih=714&dpr=0.9
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Hmmmmm....

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The markings that light up on the body could be heads with antennae - I think that's what you're talking about? Nice...
 
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daygobah

daygobah
clavain said:
Umm, except someone just found another one, and someone else saw one in a convoy and just missed getting it. Among other reasons.
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So there is now 3 of them.

Well lets change the wikia then who found the third one?

Thats different. Thats great we got three of them. I really didnt think there would be anymore. But it cool there is three now.

I still would like to see a video recorded of it finishing its life cycle pref with debug camera more then one of them. One close up and few others at different distances. With high framerate video.

So if there are three now whos got the newest one.
 

clavain

clavain
Han_Zen said:
They are there on the UA. I compared them to ants. Mantis is better.
But who are the 3 guys with long antennaes? :)
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Mom, Dad, and Grandpa Thargoid? Maybe they depict what a family or nest of the things might look like in terms of size? (again going back to the missing Voyager and depictions of humans on the gold disc).
 
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