I suspect it's as simple as deriving something from the purrs by treating them as binary. But I can't find that simple thing.
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I suspect it's as simple as deriving something from the purrs by treating them as binary. But I can't find that simple thing.
Then you have a video with only 4 or 5 purrs, including the purrs in howls? Would be very nice to see.
Or do you mean "i'd always count purrs i hear without the help of a audio editing tool, even if they are in howls"?
Hi all.
Did a little trick with the Maya dates. I enterted the numbers from the big tablet, bottom up in a date convertor:
http://www.dr-rock.biz/MayanDateCalculator
Got the date: 18th Feb. 2080
Elite time line says this about 2080s:
2080s Manned exploration of solar system, orbital cities around Earth, first interstellar probes launched.
Doubius method, but who knows.
The other tablet gives a date in 2059.
Did a little trick with the Maya dates. I enterted the numbers from the big tablet, bottom up in a date convertor:
http://www.dr-rock.biz/MayanDateCalculator
Got the date: 18th Feb. 2080
Elite time line says this about 2080s:
2080s Manned exploration of solar system, orbital cities around Earth, first interstellar probes launched.
Doubius method, but who knows.
The other tablet gives a date in 2059.
Then you have a video with only 4 or 5 purrs, including the purrs in howls? Would be very nice to see.
Or do you mean "i'd always count purrs i hear without the help of a audio editing tool, even if they are in howls"?
Aye, I'll check, I'm at work right now. As I say I may well be mistaken though, I've spent a lot of time going through audio extracts and seen all sorts of bizarre permutations.
I mean purrs start sometimes before the chittering has ended, the "blocks" are not "clean". But less commonly, I have seen instances where the purrs start and continue right through the following howl and out the other side.
This says to me the purr block does not necessarily start after the chittering and does not always finish before the subsequent howl - "blocks" can and do overlap. Meaning that really you have to count the total number of purrs, even if they're in chittering, even if they're inside the howl, and yes even if they carry on right into the start of the next cycle.
Obviously because of the above, it may mean in some instances you may a have a purr block where you are not able to determine the number of purrs.
But I would say I think QorbeQ's point may well be valid here, in that it may be the case that the purrs occur non-stop - all the time! It's just the volume is turned down for the location chittering block.
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When I've listened to them the purrs have been non-stop, 6 or 7 notes separated by a short pause. But I've not listened to a recording where the purrs start to repeat which I would expect if they were a message. Not sure if that's because the UA would explode before the message is complete.
What would you guys think if we'd propose a new Galnet news entry:
"After the scientists from the Unknown Artifact Research Center (UARC) around Dr. Arcanonn heard about the new plague called Cerberus, a name based on its three-pronged structure at the ‘head’ of the phage-like organism, they came to the conclusion that the Unknown Artifacts might very well be the connected to the source of this new plague.
Especially the simultaneous appearance of the Unknown Artefact and this new Plague were suspicious and brought the people from UARC to the conclusion that its necessary to deploy a research team to study this matter further.
As a result one of the Unknown Artifacts has been brought to Carl Simmons, the Chief Medical Officer of Newton Dock, in the hope to make further progress and to rule out the Unknown Artefact as a source of this plague by starting microbiological analysis of the Unknown Artifacts emissions."
Maybe the answer would be another news entry created by frontier giving us a hint? For example "The Result of the UA Tests was...".
If you think this could be good maybe someone with better english then me could formulate this a bit better.
Edit: seems like Ratking already sent a similar proposal.
"After the scientists from the Unknown Artifact Research Center (UARC) around Dr. Arcanonn heard about the new plague called Cerberus, a name based on its three-pronged structure at the ‘head’ of the phage-like organism, they came to the conclusion that the Unknown Artifacts might very well be the connected to the source of this new plague.
Especially the simultaneous appearance of the Unknown Artefact and this new Plague were suspicious and brought the people from UARC to the conclusion that its necessary to deploy a research team to study this matter further.
As a result one of the Unknown Artifacts has been brought to Carl Simmons, the Chief Medical Officer of Newton Dock, in the hope to make further progress and to rule out the Unknown Artefact as a source of this plague by starting microbiological analysis of the Unknown Artifacts emissions."
Maybe the answer would be another news entry created by frontier giving us a hint? For example "The Result of the UA Tests was...".
If you think this could be good maybe someone with better english then me could formulate this a bit better.
Edit: seems like Ratking already sent a similar proposal.
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By ear, the purrs aren't there during the morse chitter so surely you can't say they're non-stop just by listening? I mean they seem to stop right?
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Yeah could use a few tweaks but in the main I mentioned to Ratking the other day in a PM that what they will or will not publish in Galnet may be a way to work out if we are on the right lines with certain things......presuming that they filter the posts and only put up ones that fit within the story or "lore">
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50 pages in two days. You guys are nuts.
Has there been testing with radioactive materials? It's not on the wiki, or I missed it. There's a Gauge-sound and a frequent sonar ping coming from it, with a lot of background noises too. Perhaps that can be used to explain some of the UA's noises?
Has there been testing with radioactive materials? It's not on the wiki, or I missed it. There's a Gauge-sound and a frequent sonar ping coming from it, with a lot of background noises too. Perhaps that can be used to explain some of the UA's noises?
Maybe clearer to say there is a continuous sequence of purrs, separated by very short pauses and sets of 6/7 separated by longer pauses?
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oh and by the way, when I tried the passphrase from the Dark Wheel thread and it did not work I sighed. This was going to be another afternoon of getting absolutely no work done as I needed to decode the message. Good job you made it a nice easy one to guess!
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I'm not sure it means anything.
In the end it's reporting the opinion of a group, whether that opinion is correct or not is irrelevant, the group said it and so that's the news. And I think assuming that by publishing it means there's must be some truth in it, were just confusing matters and making an "echo-chamber" that will just make our job more difficult. Not only by confusing ourselves but all the newcomers who then come in under the assumption is Frontier saying it. ie like last time.
I mean if the head of Nasa came out and said we believe life exists on Jupiter, we want to send a mission, it'd get published "NASA says there's life on Jupiter!". The question of whether it's truth does not depend on the news outlet who is publishing, it depends on the person who made the statement in the first place.
The only criteria I suspect they might use for whether to publish or not, is the size of the group and if it adds to the backstory. I don't think whether it's truth or not has any bearing on their decision.
I think these Galnet posts are useful for bringing attention to something, perhaps if we need more people involved. And they also make the "ED story" more interesting by tying what's going on into the wider happenings in the galaxy, but making assumptions based on whether they publish or not is probably not going to help things.
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I completely agree with this. I believe the forum protocol is to say ^^this.
If were doing Galnet posts, I think the focus should really just be on making ED richer by representing ourselves and weaving the fascinating and crazy theories we come up with into the backstory.
A contingent of folks here think the UA and the plague may well be related, lots of players may not have seen any connection, so sure let's get a story up and point it out!
I suppose were a scientific body, we (probably) get Fed/Emp/Alli funding, perhaps we need to think about justifying that. =p
Maybe other players will read the article and stop and think "Hey yeah hmm maybe the plague is actually being caused by the Thargoids, , but why would they want these planets?!!"
We have a lot of enthusiasm going on here, why not try and share it.
Hell we could even do a story about one of our more extreme scientists demanding all UAs be destroyed , driven by some spectral-shape he thought he saw when a UA exploded! I mean, anyone reading that would think it was a load of rubbish..... till they looked at the footage!
A contingent of folks here think the UA and the plague may well be related, lots of players may not have seen any connection, so sure let's get a story up and point it out!
I suppose were a scientific body, we (probably) get Fed/Emp/Alli funding, perhaps we need to think about justifying that. =p
Maybe other players will read the article and stop and think "Hey yeah hmm maybe the plague is actually being caused by the Thargoids, , but why would they want these planets?!!"
We have a lot of enthusiasm going on here, why not try and share it.
Hell we could even do a story about one of our more extreme scientists demanding all UAs be destroyed , driven by some spectral-shape he thought he saw when a UA exploded! I mean, anyone reading that would think it was a load of rubbish..... till they looked at the footage!
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Okay, I'm jumping in here to make a few observations - I'm only a fraction of the way through reading all the information gathered so far but did take a good long look at the wiki entry for the artefacts to make sure I'm not throwing out ideas that have already been debunked/don't match the evidence.
1) The UAs and the SAP 8 *appear* to be connected in some way, though this has yet to be proven - UA's came in with update 1.2, SAP 8 with 1.3. Looking at the picture of the UA, it has twelve 'canisters' attached to it. Has anybody tried combining a UA with twelve SAP containers at the same time (either in their hold or in open space)?
2) Some have suggested that the UA could be a new form of (experimental) scanner, or possibly a nav-beacon type thing. This would certainly match up with the "Honk, chitter, purr" soundtrack and the morse-code system-ident that's embedded. There's also the GalNet story about Kahina Tijani's ship getting a new Gutamaya Scanner fitted (at Avalon works?). The last reference I can find to Tijani in GalNet is her recall to Achenar - has anyone tried taking the UA to Avalon works / Achenar and checking Bulletin Boards there?
3) Following on from that, I can see that tests have been done to see if the UA can be outfitted, but what ships were being used at the time? Tijani's ship is an Imp Courier - has anyone tried fitting one to an Imp Courier? (Also, didn't the Imp Courier get introduced in 1.3, along with the SAP canisters?)
4) The implication I'm getting from my reading so far is that no-one's actually *sold* one of these things because of how rare they are. Is that correct? If not, would one of the current owners be willing to sell one just to find out if that triggers anything?
These are just thoughts / ideas that popped into my mind as I was working my way through the back-chatter, so apologies if any / all of them have already been tested. The only thing I'll say in their defence is that they all tie in with what's been said by the devs, that all the clues are already in the public domain.
1) The UAs and the SAP 8 *appear* to be connected in some way, though this has yet to be proven - UA's came in with update 1.2, SAP 8 with 1.3. Looking at the picture of the UA, it has twelve 'canisters' attached to it. Has anybody tried combining a UA with twelve SAP containers at the same time (either in their hold or in open space)?
2) Some have suggested that the UA could be a new form of (experimental) scanner, or possibly a nav-beacon type thing. This would certainly match up with the "Honk, chitter, purr" soundtrack and the morse-code system-ident that's embedded. There's also the GalNet story about Kahina Tijani's ship getting a new Gutamaya Scanner fitted (at Avalon works?). The last reference I can find to Tijani in GalNet is her recall to Achenar - has anyone tried taking the UA to Avalon works / Achenar and checking Bulletin Boards there?
3) Following on from that, I can see that tests have been done to see if the UA can be outfitted, but what ships were being used at the time? Tijani's ship is an Imp Courier - has anyone tried fitting one to an Imp Courier? (Also, didn't the Imp Courier get introduced in 1.3, along with the SAP canisters?)
4) The implication I'm getting from my reading so far is that no-one's actually *sold* one of these things because of how rare they are. Is that correct? If not, would one of the current owners be willing to sell one just to find out if that triggers anything?
These are just thoughts / ideas that popped into my mind as I was working my way through the back-chatter, so apologies if any / all of them have already been tested. The only thing I'll say in their defence is that they all tie in with what's been said by the devs, that all the clues are already in the public domain.
1) Yes that's been done, there is some footage on Ratking's Twitch, "Huge UA test" or similar
2) I don't know
3) MrTree has a UA and I believe he flies an Imperial Courier
4) A number has been sold accidentally, not sure if any have been sold intentionally with a view of checking if anything changes
2) I don't know
3) MrTree has a UA and I believe he flies an Imperial Courier
4) A number has been sold accidentally, not sure if any have been sold intentionally with a view of checking if anything changes
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Yeah, I just spotted that in the wiki - obviously didn't read it close enough the first half-dozen time.
Bang goes that theory.Bang goes that one.
And there goes another theory. Ho hum.
That is EXACTLY what I'm looking to do tonight Dommarraa!
I'm in the process of collecting SAP8's in addition to Branch's UA and adding them one at a time, in the same place, until the sound changes from 5-6 purrs to 2-3 purrs. I'm expecting that to happen around 8 SAP8 Cores.
If it does turn out that 8 is the magic number of SAP8's, then it might be worth trying to access a system like Polaris or Regor Sector with a UA + 8 SAP8's to see if that makes the difference. Hell, include a ton each of Hafnium, Painite and AI relics for good measure! Wishblend listed a number of things she could offer to help in this regard, and I'll be getting in touch with her later tonight about arranging that.
As for the cargo collector with hatch closed, I did that last night and the drone went poof, leaving the UA floating a few metres below the hatch. Yeah, it was an accident, but serendipitous as well.
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